Author Topic: which lever 30-30 (Read 3282 times)

Swampman · « **Reply #30 on:** February 10, 2010, 12:02:31 PM »

Do yourself a favor and get a Marlin.

jdinil · « **Reply #31 on:** February 10, 2010, 01:35:14 PM »

I have a pre '64 model 94 Winchester and a late '70s model 336 Marlin. I like the Marlin the best.

WyoStillhunter · « **Reply #32 on:** February 10, 2010, 02:14:42 PM »

Any version of the Marlin 336 will get the job done for you -- scope or no scope, peep sights or factory, reloads or storebought ammo.

I have owned Winchester and Marlin. To my way of thinking the Marlin is the better choice overall.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #33 on:** February 10, 2010, 02:37:32 PM »

i have both ... several .... for years

like the marlin the best

winchester must be an angle eject for me
cause i like scopes or red dots
and yes they do not seem right with a scope
but i grew up with a scope on my BB gun

a pistol grip was my main reason for prefering the marlins
i know that doesn't seem like a big thing but it is to me

more sacrilege too......
easier to get marlin in stainless and laminated wood

did you look at the mossburg???

MGMorden · « **Reply #34 on:** February 10, 2010, 03:37:32 PM »

Quote from: Dances with Geoducks on February 10, 2010, 08:50:27 AM

The saddle gun was made for close in and fast target acquisition. Anything that slows this, defeats its purpose

By that definition if you're not carrying it around in a saddle you're defeating it's purpose too

.

Reality is that while nearly all my shots are within 100 yards, they're also usually taken at a deer that is standing around unaware that I'm around. I don't need fast target acquisition. I need a sighting system that I'm used to, and for me, there's just too much of a judgement call with iron sights for hunting. You line the sights up until they're level . . . more or less. Or you put the post in the middle of the peep . . . more or less. And then you put the post pretty much under where you're aiming. I learned to shoot that way with BB guns long ago, but these days I prefer the simple point and shoot nature of crosshairs. Heck if I wanted fast targetting I'd go to a 1x magnification red dot before going to iron sights. If people want to use iron sights then more power to em - I certainly don't mind, but personally, aside from a few milsurp rifles (many of which I'm selling off - just noticed that I never shoot them), if a rifles doesn't have a scope on it then I don't want it.

Dances with Geoducks · « **Reply #35 on:** February 10, 2010, 08:10:34 PM »

Quote from: MGMorden on February 10, 2010, 03:37:32 PM

By that definition if you're not carrying it around in a saddle you're defeating it's purpose too .

if a rifles doesn't have a scope on it then I don't want it.

I do carry it in a saddle scabbard

I only have one rifle with a scope. For when I get old

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #36 on:** February 11, 2010, 02:28:05 AM »

So i can't hunt with my battle rifle ?

Old Grizz · « **Reply #37 on:** February 11, 2010, 03:25:41 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on February 11, 2010, 02:28:05 AM

So i can't hunt with my battle rifle ?

ABSOLUTLEY NOT!!!!!!

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #38 on:** February 11, 2010, 09:32:59 AM »

If marlin was so much better and more accepted then why when even those that don't shoot see a lever action they call it a Winchester ?
HUMM !

gstewart44 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 11, 2010, 09:51:08 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on February 11, 2010, 09:32:59 AM

If marlin was so much better and more accepted then why when even those that don't shoot see a lever action they call it a Winchester ?
HUMM !

Oliver Winchester was a superb marketer and salesman. He branded and marketed his product internationally and was highly successful at it. All this 20 yrs prior to Marlin. He was a business genius.
(sort of like Kleenex = facial tissue).

45-70.gov · « **Reply #40 on:** February 11, 2010, 03:29:03 PM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on February 11, 2010, 02:28:05 AM

So i can't hunt with my battle rifle ?

no

Quote from: gstewart44 on February 11, 2010, 09:51:08 AM

Quote from: SHOOTALL on February 11, 2010, 09:32:59 AM
If marlin was so much better and more accepted then why when even those that don't shoot see a lever action they call it a Winchester ?
HUMM !
Oliver Winchester was a superb marketer and salesman. He branded and marketed his product internationally and was highly successful at it. All this 20 yrs prior to Marlin. He was a business genius.
(sort of like Kleenex = facial tissue).

skill saw = circular saw

winchester was a shirt salesman

originally he was afraid the lever would hurt his ''fine name''

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #41 on:** February 12, 2010, 02:18:20 AM »

Winchester was a salesman So ! Colt was a cabin boy .
Browning could beat marlin with one hand behind his back !
All that said the people voted Winchester by buying them .

45-70.gov · « **Reply #42 on:** February 12, 2010, 02:57:20 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on February 12, 2010, 02:18:20 AM

Winchester was a salesman So ! Colt was a cabin boy .
Browning could beat marlin with one hand behind his back !
All that said the people voted Winchester by buying them .

don't be slandering colt!!!

he is the only one to design a left handed gun
ignoring you snobish right handed people

by the way i have a take down winchester '94.........BUILT IN 1894

with a scout scope set up on it
talk about a scope not belonging and a disgrace to this old gun

Freezer · « **Reply #43 on:** February 12, 2010, 03:35:01 AM »

The choice of rifles limits the shooter. I have two 30-30s, a scoped Marlin and iron sited 94 Win. I also have a Marlin guide gun in 450 Marlin and a Savage 99f in 308. I sold a BLR in 7-08. THe only reason I got rid of the BLR was the chambering. In my opinion the Browning was the best of the bunch but the saddle stock didn't handle a scope well. All have their purpose but I like the Savage. The 308 is a far superior round to 30-30 and gives the shooter a lot more versitility. I wouldn't hesitate to take a 350 yrd shot with the 308. With a 2x7 Leupold it handle well in the brush.
Between the Marlin and Winchester....if you need a scope Marlin hands down.... long carry brush gun 94 Win.

Old Grizz · « **Reply #44 on:** February 12, 2010, 03:38:04 AM »

by the way i have a take down winchester '94.........BUILT IN 1894

with a scout scope set up on it
talk about a scope not belonging and a disgrace to this old gun
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You Sir, Should be brought up on charges!!!!!!

45-70.gov · « **Reply #45 on:** February 12, 2010, 03:44:50 AM »

I DIDN'T DO IT

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,190522.0.html

Old Grizz · « **Reply #46 on:** February 12, 2010, 04:47:06 AM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on February 12, 2010, 03:44:50 AM

I DIDN'T DO IT

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,190522.0.html

OK, I'm sorry, your not the culprit. That's one fine looking "94". It appears to be in great shape. How's it shoot?

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #47 on:** February 12, 2010, 07:34:30 AM »

I didn't slander Colt or his wrong hand gun .

MZ5 · « **Reply #48 on:** February 16, 2010, 07:11:13 AM »

Quote from: mattmillerrx on February 09, 2010, 03:23:37 PM

I thought of including it but had not seen one before posting this. I saw one yesterday when I was in Bass Pro, I did not even get it off the shelf. I think the price tag was around 550 but no one was willing to help me out and show me a gun. Main reason I did not include it is because it is a newer gun (at least to me not sure when these came out) and I am looking at the used market. I guess we can include it here but the shows I have been looking at have not had any even in NIB. The Marlins are pretty numerous and the winchester I have been seeing a lot of lately. If I am back in Bass Pro anytime soon, I will take a look at it but service in there is pretty poor. Being 200-250 bucks over the marlin, it will have to really have some pro's to win out with me. Of course the Henry is at Bass Pro Prices, so may be had for less else where. I do like the loading through the end of the mag tube, not sure why but probably due to the .22's I have had over the years loading the same way.

Anyone with any experience on Henry can chime in here.

That makes good sense to me! My curiosity seems to have contributed to derailing things a bit, and for that I'm sorry, mattmillerrx.

Swampman · « **Reply #49 on:** February 16, 2010, 07:57:36 AM »

The Henry is very heavy. My friend has a new one and it won't feed.

Rolandedwinjohnson · « **Reply #50 on:** March 07, 2010, 11:33:58 AM »

30-30 is enough, borrow both and try them both. Choose the one that you prefer. I have both. Slightly different guns, slightly different purposes. My Marlin has a peep sight on the receiver and the Win has the factory iron sights, Win shoots 150 grain factory loads best and the Marlin likes the Leverevolution ammo. Choose you poison.

jlchucker · « **Reply #51 on:** March 08, 2010, 02:13:11 AM »

Quote from: Dances with Geoducks on February 10, 2010, 08:10:34 PM

Quote from: MGMorden on February 10, 2010, 03:37:32 PM

By that definition if you're not carrying it around in a saddle you're defeating it's purpose too .

if a rifles doesn't have a scope on it then I don't want it.

I do carry it in a saddle scabbard

I only have one rifle with a scope. For when I get old

I don't carry my leverguns in a saddle scabbard because I don't have a horse. I've got several leverguns, and like you, I only have one levergun with a scope, for when I admit to being old. I'm an official geezer in terms of years, and have just got some new bifocals. I can see my iron sights again, both with semibuckhorn as well as receiver sights. Maybe when I get to be 80 or so, I'll start using my Marlin with a scope.

mannyrock · « **Reply #52 on:** March 08, 2010, 04:57:21 AM »

If you get a Marlin, then get one with a straight-grip, and mount a low-profile low-power compact scope on it. It is very very sleek, quick and deadly. This is far more useful and versatile than a Winchester 94 with iron sights.

pastorp · « **Reply #53 on:** March 10, 2010, 03:42:51 AM »

agreed mannyrock, I believe a fellow will find that once he gets used to a low powered scope it will be faster for him than open sights.........JMO

Regards

jlchucker · « **Reply #54 on:** March 10, 2010, 12:46:37 PM »

Mannyrock, my Marlin with a scope is a 35 Remmie early Texan version. It's got a small 1-1/2 to 5 on it. It's deadly, 200 grain Corelocts or RCBS 200 grain Cast. But I've got new, storebought bifocals for over 500 bucks and need to use my peepsight leverguns a little while longer-Marlins and Winnies. I need to get my money's worth out of my brand-new specs! My long octagon barrel Winnie 94 though will never get a scope. The other Marlins--well, Maybe some day on the other 35. That 45-70 though--.... You're right actually--a smallish sized low-powered scope on a Marlin can be a good thing. Whenever I do hunt with a scope (and sometimes I do even though I am a geezer--but don't tell anybody) I usually set it on 2 or 3 power and leave it there. That's plenty in the woods and swamps where I hunt.

Swampman · « **Reply #55 on:** March 10, 2010, 12:59:09 PM »

The last 2 deer I've shot were running. One at 60 yards and the other at 120 yards. Both shots were with scoped rifles with the scope set on 3X.