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[bearmgc]

So are they Americans? I'd venture the bold guess that they are Americans, when its conveniant for them.
The same can be said for many foreign born nationalized Americans. If you are American, stand up for America. No adequate rationals here. So is that their reason, they have no spine? They enjoy the lifestyle and benefits of living in America, but have no responsibility to it. I'd prefer they return to the country that they really have their ties to.

[scootrd]

So are they Americans? I'd venture the bold guess that they are Americans, when its conveniant for them.
The same can be said for many foreign born nationalized Americans. If you are American, stand up for America. No adequate rationals here. So is that their reason, they have no spine? They enjoy the lifestyle and benefits of living in America, but have no responsibility to it. I'd prefer they return to the country that they really have their ties to.

When Laura Ling was captured by N. Korea , did her family go off and vocalize with verbal rants about N. Korea being the Axis of evil  knowing full way any statements of that kind would incite even more anger and even further undermine efforts to bring her home safe and greater jeopardize Laura's welfare.

Did that make her family any less American?    No

[teamnelson]

If you look at the stats, Bush received the American Arab-Muslim vote almost completely, both terms - thats a million plus voters. Obama received fewer votes from that same block by comparison, although he did receive the majority vote. Of course he received the majority vote from white native born english speaking christian americans too.

Having pastored (christian churches) in the Arabic speaking community in the last 20 years, I know there are a few million muslims (and other middle easterners) who came here to be Americans. They want to work hard, be left alone, and enjoy freedom from the oppressive countries they left. Yes, there are a few more who came here for other reasons.

But do we not have our own 10%? 10% of white americans, from multi-generational white american families who are an embarassment to us all, but constantly get the limelight? Did they not vote for Obama? Did not the UAW back Obama? Do you imagine for a moment that Islam is different?

It is true the Qu'ran teaches a religion of submission and hate, but there are numerous Muslim nations currently operating with greater levels of democracy and prosperity than our Nation is headed for. Its just like shooting, make sure you are certain of your target before you fire.

[powderman]

There are NO moderate Muslims!! They all studied the same book that teaches them to kill all us infidels!! They pretend to be moderate until they get the upper hand.
     Just remember all of your moderate muslims dancing in the street in the cities here in this country at 911.
                                   Beerbelly

BEERBELLY. Right you are, I agree. I can still see those Godless SOBS dancing in the street right here in America, yep lotta difference between them and the rest. There are 2 words that should NEVER, NEVER be used in the same sentence. American. And muslim. No such thing as an American. Muslim. No such animal exists. If they truly believe in islam and ol mohamed they cannot be Americans. POWDERMAN.  

[billy_56081]

There are no moderate muslims. Only sleepers that are infiltrating and waiting for the time to strike.

[teamnelson]

I don't like Islam any more than anybody else, but I'll continue to contend that they are only exploiting our own selfishness and fear. Without that, they are empty.

[SHOOTALL]

Back on topic , its today anybody see anything yet ?

[teamnelson]

TM7, I started listing off anecdotes and stopped ... look to the State Dept. Ask them why they "smooth" visas for Somalis, Syrians, Iraqis, Afghanis ...

[powderman]

Only thing I saw today was that they hit Lou KY real hard. They recalled all the muzzie yellow cab drivers. POWDERMAN. 

[Squib]

maybe all the dirty ties that bush and wall street had to the "convenient" military work-up and wealth thrown into the military/industrial elites post 911 had many american muslims (and white christians too!) questioning who REALLY did what that day.  there's lots of people on here who aren't muslim who are asking that but does that make them anti-american or jihadist?  remember that the muslims aren't the only threat to classical american life and security- progressives and the american war machine are much scarier.

if you were a muslim, during 911 or immediately after, would you run your mouth at all or hide in your house?  I know I'd keep very quiet if I was one of them.

Teamnelson, what's this "smoothing" you speak of?

[teamnelson]

I knew a Somali who walked two blocks over from my house to the Iraqi Embassy (pre-war) in Djibouti to volunteer to fight Americans. He received $800 and a one-way ticket north. Issued a uniform and a rifle, which he dropped on first sight of the Marines. After a little time in detention, State gave him a visa to the US. Last I heard he's in a somali community in the south probably working at the airport. I know thousands of these stories from running an NGO in the Horn of Africa from 2001 - 2003. US AID came in with millions to spend ... I was offered $3 million with no oversight or reporting requirements if I promised to spend it in the education sector ... and State was handing out visas in Djibouti & Kenya like water bottles in Haiti. The $20K requirement was "waived" for some reason. They were pacifying the area, buying stability so we could build up Camp Lemonier and project presence in the Red Sea. [Meanwhile China bought all the natural resources in HOA ...]

How many Iraqi terps from your unit were begging for a visa ... and got them? Same same in Afghanistan? Its a combined arms approach: make some Americans, buy others off, detain some, shoot some. All part of the strategy.

[billy_56081]

More proof you can't trust muslims, dang liars.

[Brett]

I think Amadinijhad must be using his secret weather machine to dump snow and freezing temperatures all over the southern US.  Another 3 inches forecasted for the Charlotte area this evening.  I moved south in part to get away from that white shhh.. stuff. 

[SHOOTALL]

If he wants a nuke why don't we give him one ?