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Spear Chuckers
« on: February 10, 2010, 01:03:42 PM »
  A few years ago the Pa. Game commission approved the use of a spear like weapon called an atlittle. do any of you know of anyone who has actually hunted deer with one of these things?
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2010, 01:09:31 PM »
It is called an Atlatl  (at lat al)
It is a mechanical advantage tool that uses light thin almost arrow line spears.  the Spear needs to be flexible to work.
Go to www.bing.com
type in atlatl and it will tell you everything you need to know.
Here is one entry.

Atlatl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
An atlatl or spear-thrower is a tool that uses leverage to achieve greater velocity in dart-throwing, and includes a bearing surface which allows the user to temporarily store ...

Design · History · Modern times · Northeast Open Atlatl ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlatl · Wikipedia on Bing
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Re: Spear Chuckers
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2010, 01:14:21 PM »
Alabama allows a hand-thrown spear. I would imagine an Atlatl could go faster than a hand thrown spear, but what amazed me was how fast a deer could side step a spear in flight. Tried it, got a great story, moved on.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2010, 01:06:40 PM »
Thats just great. There are enough deer wounded in archery season by guys that take bad shots, or by guys that have no business climbing a tree and shooting arrows at deer. Now we will have guys throwing spears at them. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2010, 12:18:21 AM »
Yea, I heard ( ;)) that some of the deer hunters who what more seasons during more times of the year, have asked the Commish to consider a rock throwing season!  As the spear is not enough challenge for the hardened hunters!  It could be a "Sunday Only" season...

I knew of this "spear situation" and I am never "unamazed" at people's decisions that are made by the people in control...BCB
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2010, 03:10:51 AM »
BCB and DDZ, maybe what they really need to do, if they want to be like real cavemen, they should start up a season where nothing but bare hands and muscle is allowed.  If these people want to go spearchucking primitive, then deer rasslin" ought to be the ultimate challenge!  Is there some kind of magazine that writes about spearchuck hunting, rock slinging, and the like--kind of like we shooters have gun rags? 
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2010, 08:49:06 AM »
jlchucker,

I never even gave that a thought!  You have taken the primitive aspect of deer hunting back in time an additional 100000 or more years!

You might be a candidate to sit on the Commish Board of Directors!

The only problem with going back that far in time and being that primitive would be the fact that maybe fire hadn't been discovered and you could not safely prepare the meat.  But, if a person is tough enough to harvest a deer with his bare hands, I doubt that a few bacteria would do them any harm at all...

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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2010, 09:35:27 AM »
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2010, 09:50:22 AM »
DDZ and could you share the numbers ?

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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2010, 09:53:53 AM »
I would really like a season where you jump from a tree and bite the deer on the neck !
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Re: Spear Chuckers
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2010, 10:06:55 AM »
Quote from: SHOOTALL on February 12, 2010, 09:50:22 AM
DDZ and could you share the numbers ?



What numbers would that be Shootall
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2010, 10:14:20 AM »
The stats on all the wounded deer shot by those haveing no business climbing a tree .....
 Is it more than gun hunters ? or hit by vehicle ? Sounds like some want to limit all because of a few ? Same old soicalist ideals in play .
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2010, 10:22:13 AM »
I have wanted for years wanted to take a deer with a spear. Might have to ask the DNR if I can. Many years ago there were some guys that killed bears with spears here.
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2010, 12:32:30 PM »
Shootall, I said nothing about limiting archery hunters.

I think there are more deer wounded by archery hunters than rifle hunters. That is by percentage.
Not that rifle hunters in general are more responsible. There are just as many rifle hunters that head to the woods without practicing as archery hunters. The difference is, its a heck of a lot harder to place an arrow on target without practicing than to place a bullet on target with a scoped rifle without practice. I know for a fact that there are many archery hunters that shoot a few arrows, before opening day then head for a tree to try and arrow a deer. These are the guys I was referring to when I said some have no business flinging arrows at deer. I do not see this as a socialist view. I see it as a disrespect for the game animal.
Every year we find dead deer with arrow wounds. Also I and other family members have shot bucks in rifle season that have festering arrow wounds. I see the rifle hunter that pulls his rifle out once a year and at least doesn't check it on paper before shooting at deer as having no business shooting at deer either. Hunting is not a right its a privilege.

 I have nothing at all against the hunter that practices with his bow and knows what his limits are when he takes a shot at a deer. 
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2010, 12:59:36 PM »
Quote from: billy_56081 on February 12, 2010, 10:22:13 AM
I have wanted for years wanted to take a deer with a spear. Might have to ask the DNR if I can. Many years ago there were some guys that killed bears with spears here.

a deer  is quick

people are  hunting  pigs with spears

look on  you-tube
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Re: Spear Chuckers
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2010, 01:22:53 PM »
Here is someone who seems to be successful at spear hunting:

http://www.huntingwithspears.com/GenesSpearTally/tabid/1425/Default.aspx


My sole attempt was from my Summit climber with safety harness 25 ft up, and the deer was about 10 feet out. I think I made too much noise.  Later, I was told that the proper technique was to get 10 feet up and come down with the spear, (not me, hoss; kind of defeats the purpose of that safety harness)

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Re: Spear Chuckers
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2010, 01:28:00 PM »
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Re: Spear Chuckers
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2010, 02:05:38 PM »
Quote from: BCB on February 12, 2010, 08:49:06 AM
jlchucker,

I never even gave that a thought!  You have taken the primitive aspect of deer hunting back in time an additional 100000 or more years!

You might be a candidate to sit on the Commish Board of Directors!

The only problem with going back that far in time and being that primitive would be the fact that maybe fire hadn't been discovered and you could not safely prepare the meat.  But, if a person is tough enough to harvest a deer with his bare hands, I doubt that a few bacteria would do them any harm at all...

BCB

Yup!! If the guys are tough enough to harvest game barehanded, then they would probably be tough enough to eat raw meat, of course.  Actually, if the Commish Board of Directors were sporting folk in this regard, they'd put in an open season on woolly mammoths as well. Nothing to lose by this and they could actually charge a license fee for it.  The fee is the bottom line for most game commissions who want all of these specialized seasons after all, isn't it?  Spearchuckers should, by law, have to use flint spearheads.  Otherwise, the whole thing would get all technical, like muzzle-loading and bow seasons have become over the years.  Let's keep the barehand guys and spear guys primitive. I look forward to watching them on Youtube, don't you?
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2010, 02:08:29 AM »
DDZ , your experince is different than mine as I have killed many more deer wounded by gun fire than arrows . I can't remember all the deer that had been shot but do remember only 2 with broad heads in them that i have taken . When you look at permit sales it only makes sense .
 As far as hunting a privlage , Was that not why our laws are the way they are to keep it from being like That and like it was in the old country ?
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Re: Spear Chuckers
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2010, 09:21:10 AM »




a spear  and  2 knives [short handled spear]

i will stick  to my ambush with a rifle technique





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Re: Spear Chuckers
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2010, 11:46:27 AM »
The Atlatls were never approved to hunt with in Pa.There was a small movement to get them legalized but it never got enough momentum.
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Re: Spear Chuckers
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2010, 09:05:46 AM »
Quote from: dougell on April 27, 2010, 11:46:27 AM
The Atlatls were never approved to hunt with in Pa.

 I could see them for rabbits or varmints, as a hoot. But then they were used at one time for more serious stuff so.......
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Re: Spear Chuckers
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2010, 09:38:51 AM »
I played around with one at a gun show last summer.Kinda neat but I couldn't imagine being effective with one considering all the movement it would take to toss an arrow or whatever they shoot out of them.
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