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Tracing my Grandfathers Service - Big Red One - Update
« on: February 13, 2010, 05:16:44 PM »
Had another great day today,
Previously, I posted what a great day I had a while back when my mother called and said she had some photo's for me of my grandfathers service record. I have been trying to piece together my Grandfathers service history to be passed down to family generations. 

Today my mom called me again and said she had found some more papers as well as a few more photos relating to Africa, Sicily , D-Day , Belgium , and Germany..

I just finished reading everything from today's find. 

Included in Today's finds were:
  • My Grandfathers original Birth Certificate,
  • Honorable Discharge from the Civilian Conservation Corps 1936 -1938 at 18 years of age to Join the Army. (Join the Army was the reason stated on the discharge).
  • Orders dated 3rd of February 1945 , by order of LT. Col Page to award the purple heart to my Grandfather for wounds received at Bullingen, Belgium January 1945.  Büllingen was nearly completely destroyed during the Battle of the Bulge in winter 1944-1945
  • Original Written citation for his Bronze star for " Courage as a machine gunner" against overwhelming odds in the Kasserine Pass. I can only imagine what went through those boys minds facing Rommel's 10th and 21ts panzer Army divisions that day.
  • Various other company level papers now definitely state my Grandfather was with the Golden Lions who fought along side the Rangers and the 26th Infantry not the Blue Spaders as previously believed.
Here is a History of the Golden Lions:


The 33rd Field Artillery was originally organized on 5 August 1918 at Camp Meade Maryland. After being alerted several times for overseas deployment, it was demobilized on 12 December 1918. In the words of the Battalion's unofficial history written in 1950, "The Lion opened one eye, looked around, and went back to sleep." The unit was redesignated on 1 October 1940 as the 33rd Field Artillery Battalion and assigned to the 1st Division (later redesignated as the 1st Infantry Division) at Fort Ethan Allen, Vermont.

After participating with the Division in the "Carolina Maneuvers" and training in England, the Battalion participated in the first of its 3 assault landings near Les Analouses, North Africa. At 0832 hours on 8 November 1942, while firing in support of the 26th Regimental Combat Team, B Battery fired the first US artillery rounds in the European Theater. Throughout the North African campaign, the 33rd Field Artillery continued to support the 26th Regimental Combat Team, including at the battle of Kasserine Pass where the Battalion provided both indirect and direct fires.

On 10 July 1943, the 1st Infantry Division hit Sicily. The 33rd Field Artillery landed at Gela and fought along side the Rangers and the 26th Infantry. The gun positions were less than 500 meters from the sea when the Herman Goering Division launched a counter-attack. "It was either fight the gun or die." Regimental Forward Observers directed the cannon fires and naval gunfire to stop the counter-attack just short of the beach. 8 German tanks were destroyed by direct fire from the 105mm howtizers, while many others were damaged and pulled back.

The 33rd Field Artillery again supported the 26th Infantry throughout the Sicilian campaign. At Triona, fires from the 33rd Field Artillery held back attacks against the 2nd and 3rd battalions of the 26th Infantry, while inflicting some of the heaviest casualties and damage to the German troops in the entire Sicilian Campaign.

The Battalion and battery recon parties landed on Omaha Beach on D-Day, while the rest of the Battalion came ashore at D+1. The landing at Omaha constituted the third assault landing for the Battalion. Those 3 landings are symbolized by the 3 points on the lion's tail on the battalion crest. By the 12th of June 1944, the Battalion occupied positions just North of Caumont. Caumont, held by the 26th Infantry, was the point of deepest penetration on the allied front. By mid-July 1944, the battalion had collected enemy and American guns and mortars to the point that the total number of weapons being fired through the Fire Direction Center totaled 51.

The Battalion continued to fight its way through Northern France, including fighting surrounded during the evening of 3 September 1944, until it was relieved by elements of the 26th Infantry. Over 200 of the enemy were found dead in the area when relief arrived.

In October 1944, the 26th Regimental Combat Team received the mission of clearing Aachen. The 33rd Field Artillery, the Direct Support battalion for the 26th Infantry, had the task of coordinating all the fires from various battalions into Aachen. On 21 October 1944 the city surrendered, thus being the first German City to fall to the Allies.

The Battalion supported the 26th Infantry again during the "Battle of the Bulge." The Battalion helped hold the northern shoulder of the "bulge" against the 12th SS Panzer Division, firing over 4300 rounds on 19 December 1944 and over 4000 rounds on 22 December 1944.

The Battalion continued to move westward, providing General Support fires as the 1st Infantry Division crossed the Roer and Rhine Rivers. The Battalion then returned to its Direct Support role as the 26th Infantry moved out of the Remagen bridgehead. The Battalion eventually found itself supporting the 26th Infantry again as the Regiment took Brocken Berg, the highest point in Germany.

When the war in Europe ended on 8 May 1945, the 1st Infantry Division and the 33rd Field Artillery Battalion had crossed the Czech-German border and was attacking toward Karlsbad. In the 2 1/2 years since landing in North Africa, the 33rd Field Artillery had participated in 8 major campaigns (including Tunisia, Northern France, Rhineland, Ardennes-Alsace, and Central Europe), including 3 amphibious assault landings (Algeria-French Morocco, Sicily, and Normandy). It had accumulated 422 days of actual combat, decorated 655 officers and soldiers, sustained 292 casualties, expended over 175,000 rounds of high explosive ammunition, and taken over 500 prisoners.



 
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Re: Tracing my Grandfathers Service - Big Red One - Update
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 05:39:41 PM »
Good for you.  History needs to be preserved and shared.  If you have not done so, you can Google for a form to request his records from St. Louis.  If you have his DD214 or his serial number, this will be easy, and may provide more info than you have.

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Re: Tracing my Grandfathers Service - Big Red One - Update
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2010, 05:48:32 PM »
Had another great day today,
Previously, I posted what a great day I had a while back when my mother called and said she had some photo's for me of my grandfathers service record. I have been trying to piece together my Grandfathers service history to be passed down to family generations. 

Today my mom called me again and said she had found some more papers as well as a few more photos relating to Africa, Sicily , D-Day , Belgium , and Germany..

I just finished reading everything from today's find. 

Included in Today's finds were:
  • My Grandfathers original Birth Certificate,
  • Honorable Discharge from the Civilian Conservation Corps 1936 -1938 at 18 years of age to Join the Army. (Join the Army was the reason stated on the discharge).
  • Orders dated 3rd of February 1945 , by order of LT. Col Page to award the purple heart to my Grandfather for wounds received at Bullingen, Belgium January 1945.  Büllingen was nearly completely destroyed during the Battle of the Bulge in winter 1944-1945
  • Original Written citation for his Bronze star for " Courage as a machine gunner" against overwhelming odds in the Kasserine Pass. I can only imagine what went through those boys minds facing Rommel's 10th and 21ts panzer Army divisions that day.
  • Various other company level papers now definitely state my Grandfather was with the Golden Lions who fought along side the Rangers and the 26th Infantry not the Blue Spaders as previously believed.
Here is a History of the Golden Lions:


The 33rd Field Artillery was originally organized on 5 August 1918 at Camp Meade Maryland. After being alerted several times for overseas deployment, it was demobilized on 12 December 1918. In the words of the Battalion's unofficial history written in 1950, "The Lion opened one eye, looked around, and went back to sleep." The unit was redesignated on 1 October 1940 as the 33rd Field Artillery Battalion and assigned to the 1st Division (later redesignated as the 1st Infantry Division) at Fort Ethan Allen, Vermont.

After participating with the Division in the "Carolina Maneuvers" and training in England, the Battalion participated in the first of its 3 assault landings near Les Analouses, North Africa. At 0832 hours on 8 November 1942, while firing in support of the 26th Regimental Combat Team, B Battery fired the first US artillery rounds in the European Theater. Throughout the North African campaign, the 33rd Field Artillery continued to support the 26th Regimental Combat Team, including at the battle of Kasserine Pass where the Battalion provided both indirect and direct fires.

On 10 July 1943, the 1st Infantry Division hit Sicily. The 33rd Field Artillery landed at Gela and fought along side the Rangers and the 26th Infantry. The gun positions were less than 500 meters from the sea when the Herman Goering Division launched a counter-attack. "It was either fight the gun or die." Regimental Forward Observers directed the cannon fires and naval gunfire to stop the counter-attack just short of the beach. 8 German tanks were destroyed by direct fire from the 105mm howtizers, while many others were damaged and pulled back.

The 33rd Field Artillery again supported the 26th Infantry throughout the Sicilian campaign. At Triona, fires from the 33rd Field Artillery held back attacks against the 2nd and 3rd battalions of the 26th Infantry, while inflicting some of the heaviest casualties and damage to the German troops in the entire Sicilian Campaign.

The Battalion and battery recon parties landed on Omaha Beach on D-Day, while the rest of the Battalion came ashore at D+1. The landing at Omaha constituted the third assault landing for the Battalion. Those 3 landings are symbolized by the 3 points on the lion's tail on the battalion crest. By the 12th of June 1944, the Battalion occupied positions just North of Caumont. Caumont, held by the 26th Infantry, was the point of deepest penetration on the allied front. By mid-July 1944, the battalion had collected enemy and American guns and mortars to the point that the total number of weapons being fired through the Fire Direction Center totaled 51.

The Battalion continued to fight its way through Northern France, including fighting surrounded during the evening of 3 September 1944, until it was relieved by elements of the 26th Infantry. Over 200 of the enemy were found dead in the area when relief arrived.

In October 1944, the 26th Regimental Combat Team received the mission of clearing Aachen. The 33rd Field Artillery, the Direct Support battalion for the 26th Infantry, had the task of coordinating all the fires from various battalions into Aachen. On 21 October 1944 the city surrendered, thus being the first German City to fall to the Allies.

The Battalion supported the 26th Infantry again during the "Battle of the Bulge." The Battalion helped hold the northern shoulder of the "bulge" against the 12th SS Panzer Division, firing over 4300 rounds on 19 December 1944 and over 4000 rounds on 22 December 1944.

The Battalion continued to move westward, providing General Support fires as the 1st Infantry Division crossed the Roer and Rhine Rivers. The Battalion then returned to its Direct Support role as the 26th Infantry moved out of the Remagen bridgehead. The Battalion eventually found itself supporting the 26th Infantry again as the Regiment took Brocken Berg, the highest point in Germany.

When the war in Europe ended on 8 May 1945, the 1st Infantry Division and the 33rd Field Artillery Battalion had crossed the Czech-German border and was attacking toward Karlsbad. In the 2 1/2 years since landing in North Africa, the 33rd Field Artillery had participated in 8 major campaigns (including Tunisia, Northern France, Rhineland, Ardennes-Alsace, and Central Europe), including 3 amphibious assault landings (Algeria-French Morocco, Sicily, and Normandy). It had accumulated 422 days of actual combat, decorated 655 officers and soldiers, sustained 292 casualties, expended over 175,000 rounds of high explosive ammunition, and taken over 500 prisoners.



 


Very interesting, my father was also in Aachen and the batttle of the bulge.

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Re: Tracing my Grandfathers Service - Big Red One - Update
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2010, 08:10:58 PM »
Have your Mother put in for reissue of your Grandfathers decorations and DD214 as next of kin, surviving, with Dept of the Army.  Check the libraries in your area for Order of Battle World War II European Theatre  This refrence shows every Army unit in European theatre as compiled from morning reports.  Cross refrence your Grandfathers decorations to this book and you will have started tracing him across Europe.

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Re: Tracing my Grandfathers Service - Big Red One - Update
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2010, 03:18:53 AM »
SCOOTRD. Thanks for sharing. Every one of us owes our very existence to men like your Grandpa. You should be proud. Keep digging. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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Re: Tracing my Grandfathers Service - Big Red One - Update
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 07:34:53 AM »
My wife's father never talked to anyone about his service in WWII.  Said during his debriefing that what he had seen and done was classified, so he took it litterally as that.  All they knew was what he had told them while serving in England.  That he was the belly gunner in a B-17.

When one of his daughters became active duty, and she married an active duty NCO.  He finally decided he had someone he could confide in about his war duties.  He told us how he felt guilty about all the women and children he felt his bomber had killed.  Being a belly gunner he could watch the bombs fall, and some fell on factories, and others fell on houses.  We sat with him as he cried during moments of guilt, we heard about his buddies that survived, and again as he cried about the ones that did not.  He talked about the B-17 being shot up badly, Yet making it back to England.  Then about having to bail out behind German lines.  Hiding during the day and moving  only at night to get back to the American lines.  Then back to England to fly again.  

After that one time he never again talked about it and refused to talk about his War Record.  After his death, my wife requested and received a copy of his records.  She also was able to contact people or their relatives, from his unit in England.  Someone had compiled a history of that unit, and it's exploits during the war.  Her father's name is mentioned several times in the reports.  Over the years she has been able to peice togeather a pretty accurate detail of his years in England.  One of the most impressive thinks our son has gotten out of all the documentation she has compiled is that when he met the requirements to return to the US, he declined, three times.

The things that I got out of his record was that just like all his friends and so many of the men that returned from WWII, they were real heros, men to be proud of, yet they never bragged or made issue of the deeds they performed or their service.

Scooterd:  Thanks for sharing and good luck on finding out all the info you can.  Rog

    
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 01:40:15 PM »
A Cooking Column

Penny Prudence was a cooking editor before WWII whose cook books, American Regional Cooking, were considered to be the best wedding present a bride could get.  I still have my mothers given to her on her wedding day 1938. Penny Prudence was a writing name for a Jewish male living I believe in Chicago.  When the war came along he became a bombadier/navigator in Europe with the Army Air Force.  He also turned down returning home and was on the Reichs A list (kill if captured) and knew it.  His last mission, he saved the life of a British officer and took flak in his back but still finished the run hitting his target.  He was mustered out (the Brit said you could see his ribs when you looked at his back) and finished the next book, cooking with ration coupons in less than 9 months.  He continued to write for the cooking columns until I think the 1980's
Like a lot of those who lived in that era he thought it was nothing special.

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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2010, 02:11:11 PM »
Can any of you picture todays spoiled Americans being rationed or doing without anything like our parents did??? POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Tracing my Grandfathers Service - Big Red One - Update
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2010, 02:43:52 PM »
A Cooking Column

Penny Prudence was a cooking editor before WWII whose cook books, American Regional Cooking, were considered to be the best wedding present a bride could get.  I still have my mothers given to her on her wedding day 1938. Penny Prudence was a writing name for a Jewish male living I believe in Chicago.  When the war came along he became a bombadier/navigator in Europe with the Army Air Force.  He also turned down returning home and was on the Reichs A list (kill if captured) and knew it.  His last mission, he saved the life of a British officer and took flak in his back but still finished the run hitting his target.  He was mustered out (the Brit said you could see his ribs when you looked at his back) and finished the next book, cooking with ration coupons in less than 9 months.  He continued to write for the cooking columns until I think the 1980's
Like a lot of those who lived in that era he thought it was nothing special.

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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2010, 04:14:19 PM »
There are those who believe in service to thier kin and country.  They are called National Guard and Reserve.  Every Officer who has acceptted a comission has also agreed to be recalled if needed.  Then there are those who follow the guns, career milatary.  These are the ones who seem to feel most alive in that .00001% of the time when someone is shooting at them.  Lastly there are those who have earned the title Vet.  A vet is an elder soldier, sailor, air man, marine, or coast guard who is in a position to hold the nation, and frequently does.
None of the above are spoiled or unwilling to sacrifice.


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