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Offline 1911crazy

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Carbide Sizing dies in all calibers????
« on: February 15, 2010, 05:20:51 AM »
The reloading equipment companies needs a kick in the pants.  They need to look to the future to keep there business on the leading edge of technology.  The sales are there if they offer what we really need thats new to us.

Its about time we got away from the samey, same way of lubing all the brass cases, its getting old now.  We need a company like LEE to step up to the plate like they been doing with new ideas and offer the carbide sizing dies in all calibers (rifle & pistol).  At least the popular ones.  Were just tired of lubing and cleaning the brass after resizing.  If your running a lot of brass like we do(1,000++) at a time its waste's a lot of time. I'm sure that LEE would still keep it within reason price wise too.

I would gladly purchase a new seperate carbide sizing die in all my calibers.
 
I think the reloading die manufacturers are missing the boat on this one.

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Re: Carbide Sizing dies in all calibers????
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 05:33:36 AM »
You did not say what caliber you were loading for. Dillon makes a 223 and I think a 308 carbide sizing dies. However you still have to lube the cases. I do not think you can get away with carbide sizing dies in a bottle necked case with out lubing. The carbide in the Dillon dies is for scratch resistance and wear, not doing away with lube. For a truly lube-less design they have to be straight walled or neck sized using a Lee Collet die. Good Luck and Good Shooting
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Re: Carbide Sizing dies in all calibers????
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 05:40:28 AM »
Don't know about your carbide dies, but mine only have a carbide ring at the bottom of the die, not full length.  This means as you run a bottle neck cartridge into it, you would still have to lube the shoulder/neck junction.  I'm sure any of the die manufacturers would love to be the first on the market with a cost efficient carbide die for bottle necks, key here being cost efficient.  Carbides not cheap, nor is it easy to machine, infact I think they have to grind it not machine it.  I could be wrong here.

The price would be in the hundreds easy, I'll stick with my Hornady spray on lube, not that dificult or messy.

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Re: Carbide Sizing dies in all calibers????
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 06:28:00 AM »
I have Hornady carbide dies for the 38/357 and I like them. 

I have a good supply of 9MM cases and I am tired of lubing cases.  My original Lee 9mm dies make good ammunition but it was time for a change.  I now have a 9MM LEE Carbide 4-die set.  I have cranked out a couple hundred loads now.  The Carbide resizing die requires a little more force than my lube die set.  I mention this because a friend of mine wants to learn to reload. 

She has a couple of things going against her.  My reloading bench was built for me, not a real small person and the height of the bench may not allow for good leverage for a person her size. I might have to put down a piece of 4x12 for her to stand on.  The other option is the lube die set.

One of the advantages of the carbide set is that I have a baggie of cases in need of resizing next to one of my two presses.  When I am in the garage I now swing by the press and resize a few cases.  No messing with lube. 
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Re: Carbide Sizing dies in all calibers????
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 06:55:39 AM »
Dillion does make carbide for .223,(possibly .308) Price of machining is prohibitive. When you buy a set of carbide dies,anybody's, the only thing that is carbide is the little doughnut ring in the bottom of the FL sizing die.(we're talking straight wall cases now) I get a kick out of some of the advertising. Why in the world anybody would believe that a seating die is made out of carbide?
Most reloaders have a spasm if they spend more than $25 on any set of dies. Solid carbide dies in say,22-250. With set up time, and how many they would have to make, price would be well over $200 a set. Wonder how many they would sell at that price? gypsyman
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Re: Carbide Sizing dies in all calibers????
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 07:20:55 AM »
You can be sure if Dillon's .223/.308 carbide dies were good sellers others would jump on the band wagon!  They don't sell well because they are much too costly AND they still require lubing.   ???

My wife's a very good cook and loves to host gatherings.  She would like to fix a BIG family meal quickly and without kitchen clean up afterwards, she's been doing it all slowly and manually for a long time and she gets tired.  But it seems no new technology will ever really change it, not in this life.

The 98 Mauser has been with us a long time and has never been improved on as a hunting rifle, not in any significant way.

Seems some work can't be reduced below a certain minimum and some tools can't be improved past a certain point, time don't matter.  ;D
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Re: Carbide Sizing dies in all calibers????
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 10:39:06 AM »
Lee makes carbide dies for .30 Carbine.  I have a set.  They still require lube.  .38/.357, .44 Special/Mag, .45 Colt, and .45 ACP carbide dies I've used don't require lube, and I like that very much, but I can lube cases if necessary.  I currently lack a set of carbide dies for .41 Magnum, so the standard dies I do have on hand will just have to do.