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Offline Davetrp243

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Snaremen, a quick question
« on: November 07, 2003, 02:44:58 PM »
How big should the loop be for otter? I found a creek that narrows out to about 16 inches wide which leads to a pond that otters use and I would like to set it. How should I go about doing this? Thanks-John
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2003, 03:28:59 PM »
Dave,are you limited by law to snares?? I usually just set a 330 and would narrow it down--if you must use a snare--do the same thing.  Tom
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2003, 03:30:28 PM »
Six inches and hopefully you are putting on a drowning slide to deep water ... If not you are going to have a damaged otter pelt.   If you can  a conibear would be better at this point 220, 280 depending on your trapping rules of course

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2003, 03:01:47 AM »
I have no 330's, and the biggest coni. I have is a 220. Should the whole thing be under water?? Thanks-John
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2003, 04:16:05 AM »
John,you can run your 220 either way,half or completely submerged.
 If you go half way,place a couple sticks like an X over the trap jaws.If you completely submerge,make sur to put dive sticks over the top.Good luck.  Tom
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2003, 10:55:42 AM »
Holding an otter snare I make in front of me, it is opened at 5 3/4" wide by 4 3/4" tall...all I use are loaded snares.  First started snaring otter about 19 years ago and have some unusual experiences with them.  I must be lucky because I have not lost an otter in a snare yet.(tripped snares though) I use 5/64 and 3/32 7x7... heavily loaded.  The loading makes the snare set off easier which takes less force to get it to close.  When the snare closes to a certain apex, it snaps closed.  I get about a 70% neck catch on them with the others slipping one or both feet through.  Even caught one by the tail.  I set snare so the bottom of the loop sits 2" off the surface of the snow.  If it is land, I then set it 3" high.  When the otter is sliding, he is more apt to have his head lower with each stride, so I compensate accordingly.   I keep my snares short with an inline swivel just 2" from the opened loop and another terminal end swivel... double swivelled.  I also set up so there is no entanglement.  Over 1/2 the otter are still alive when I get there.  I use rebar to anchor and clear area void of anything the otter can get leverage with and anything that will foul the swivelling of the snare.   I set multiple snares in one area to catch the group when they come in.  Often they travel in the same direction, but not the same trail so I gang set the area... a netting effect.  If one snare misses, maybe the next few up the trail will connect.  I do not have problems with fur damage on my otter.  Using entanglement where target does not expire and using cable too thin may result in such an outcome.  I do use a kill pole and 5/64 7x7 for them, but when doing so, I am strictly targeting the neck and I make the loop a little smaller as well so that I will either get a neck catch or miss.  I do not want a live otter in this scenario too long or he might twist out.  I have on occasion have otter twist/break every single strand but 3 or 4.  Swivels, non-entangle or entanglement & neck catch are keys in otter snaring.

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