Author Topic: Man flies plane into IRS building in Austin Texas (Read 3038 times)

sagegrouse715 · « **Reply #30 on:** February 18, 2010, 03:34:30 PM »

The 16th amendment to the U.S. Constitution passed in February, 1913 says, "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States and without regard to any census on enumeration."

The Underwood Tariff passed in October, 1913 provided for a graduated income tax on personal incomes.

That's the law. Keep your money.

Dee · « **Reply #31 on:** February 18, 2010, 03:42:54 PM »

I believe that tax law was for "war time" wasn't it?

sagegrouse715 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 18, 2010, 03:47:16 PM »

No, we don't enter WWI until 1917.

Dee · « **Reply #33 on:** February 18, 2010, 03:58:02 PM »

Hmmmmm. Hey Matt! Get your check book out. We may have a winner.

Hooker · « **Reply #34 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:15:21 PM »

Quote from: sagegrouse715 on February 18, 2010, 01:48:32 PM

I don't think having to pay taxes should push a mentally stable person to this behavior.

Good then you wont mind paying mine for me.

Pat

chutesnreloads · « **Reply #35 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:45:02 PM »

Might want to point out that it was NOT the IRS building.It was an office building that has IRS offices in it.The IRS building wasn't touched as it's in another part of the city.

gypsyman · « **Reply #36 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:55:23 PM »

I wonder why he just didn't do what every red blooded American politician does, cheat on his tax's.gypsyman

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #37 on:** February 18, 2010, 05:00:26 PM »

Quote from: Dances with Geoducks on February 18, 2010, 02:37:19 PM

The news seems to think the Tea Party was to blame

Total BS. That is the Libaral media, and it is full of holes....

sagegrouse715 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 18, 2010, 05:16:03 PM »

Hooker:

I wouldn't want to deny you one of your privileges as a citizen of the United States.

Hooker · « **Reply #39 on:** February 18, 2010, 05:55:19 PM »

Quote from: sagegrouse715 on February 18, 2010, 05:16:03 PM

Hooker:

I wouldn't want to deny you one of your privileges as a citizen of the United States.

LOL Well dangit man caint ya see my sanity is at stake.
On second thought if they make me looney enough I can draw one of them nut checks

Pat

sagegrouse715 · « **Reply #40 on:** February 18, 2010, 06:10:59 PM »

Questor · « **Reply #41 on:** February 19, 2010, 02:54:34 AM »

What kind of a moron kills himself just because he can't cope with the times and gets obsessed about things he can't control? Another Darwin Award nominee.

Do you happen to know how many victims this creep murdered?

magooch · « **Reply #42 on:** February 19, 2010, 02:56:09 AM »

You might say he just blew his Stack.

Questor · « **Reply #43 on:** February 19, 2010, 03:11:26 AM »

I look at it a little differently. I'm in the same line of work as that guy was, and he was technically correct about some of the constraints on technical professionals vis a vis US taxation. However, there are ways of making a living at it, and there's always the option of changing occupations. It's not worth dying over and it's certainly not worth killing over. You only live once.

MGMorden · « **Reply #44 on:** February 19, 2010, 03:16:23 AM »

Quote from: Questor on February 19, 2010, 02:54:34 AM

What kind of a moron kills himself just because he can't cope with the times and gets obsessed about things he can't control? Another Darwin Award nominee.

Do you happen to know how many victims this creep murdered?

Besides himself, only 1 other person. It was a pretty small plane.

The responses here surprise me though. If it had been a middle-easterner it would have been "ZOMG The Godless ones will stop at NOTHING . . . ".

Let a white guy do it though and the basic attitude is "Aw, the poor guy was just under too much stress".

This idiot was an insurgent against our government, plain and simple. His skin color nor religious creed do not change that fact that he, just like others who fly planes into buildings, was a terrorist. He's already dead so nothing we can do to him, but I'll certainly not honor his memory.

powderman · « **Reply #45 on:** February 19, 2010, 03:22:19 AM »

YEP, he was a nut. At least his gene pool has ended. My condolences to the family of the one he murdered. POWDERMAN.

williamlayton · « **Reply #46 on:** February 19, 2010, 03:28:54 AM »

It is what it is and at the present we can do nothing but mourn.
Who you mourn for is your business.
No one has yet figgered out a way to stop things from happening and controls certainly don't work.
Blessings

myronman3 · « **Reply #47 on:** February 19, 2010, 03:43:56 AM »

call him a nut all you want. i am sure many called the founders of our country 'nuts', too. the fact is that this man had all he could take of his freedom being taken from him and said "enough".

when the american revolution started, they were being taxed far less than we are being taxed now. think about that all you "proud americans".

i think the revolution is coming. viva revolution!

Questor · « **Reply #48 on:** February 19, 2010, 03:51:22 AM »

It's very sad that one other person was killed. However, I assumed it was going to be much worse, judging from the pictures. What about seriously injured? One can only hope for the best.

I can't believe anyone would consider this nut patriotic. Paul Revere, for example, didn't burn his house down leaving his family with nothing, and he didn't commit suicide. He did risk his life for a cause. Two totally different approaches. The Revere approach was patriotism.

gypsyman · « **Reply #49 on:** February 19, 2010, 03:53:36 AM »

myronman3, beat me by a minute. Just got thru looking up ''the shot heard round the world'' Could this be the start of the new revolution. April 19,1775 -Feb.18,2010 gypsyman

Matt · « **Reply #50 on:** February 19, 2010, 04:50:11 AM »

Quote from: sagegrouse715 on February 18, 2010, 03:34:30 PM

The 16th amendment to the U.S. Constitution passed in February, 1913 says, "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States and without regard to any census on enumeration."

The Underwood Tariff passed in October, 1913 provided for a graduated income tax on personal incomes.

That's the law. Keep your money.

The 16th was never ratified and here is the proof of such.
http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/ratification.asp

More good info here
http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/home.asp

Listen to the attorney and judge here
http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/7th_circuit.mp3

Why is it we have to pay but they don't?
http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/crooks.pdf

Another good read
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd458.htm

I will post the SCOTUS rulling declaring that if you did not have to pay prior to the 16th you do not have to pay after the 16th...

Matt

Bigeasy · « **Reply #51 on:** February 19, 2010, 05:11:52 AM »

Quote from: myronman3 on February 19, 2010, 03:43:56 AM

call him a nut all you want. i am sure many called the founders of our country 'nuts', too. the fact is that this man had all he could take of his freedom being taken from him and said "enough".

when the american revolution started, they were being taxed far less than we are being taxed now. think about that all you "proud americans".

i think the revolution is coming. viva revolution!

Unless I missed something during my history classes in school, our founding fathers did not attempt to commit mass murder on innocent fellow citizens because they were having a bad hair day.....

As far as taxes, nobody enjoys paying them, but are needed if we are going to have those little things, you know, like a strong military to keep us safe, a supreme court to ensure certian freedoms we all take for granted, etc. The problem is how our tax money is being spent, and the way to change that is raise your voice, vote, write letters. One person can have a lot of influence if he/she makes some noise. Killing fellow citizens ain't the way to do it...

Larry

myronman3 · « **Reply #52 on:** February 19, 2010, 07:55:27 AM »

Quote

....As far as taxes, nobody enjoys paying them, but are needed if we are going to have those little things, you know, like...

1. activist judges-throwing the will of the people under the bus and enforcing their bias on said people 2. corrupt politicians- raping our constitution, filling their pockets, ignoring our rules and procedures and forcing us into slavery 3. foreign terrorists captured on the battlefield brought to america and given the same rights and protections as u.s. citizens ; need i go on? nope, i think you get the picture. you do it your way, i'll do it mine. stack did it his way.

i think the current whores in office should be given the mussolini treatment then hung upside down in public for the world to see. you have fun writing those letters, see how much that changes.

viva revolution!

Hooker · « **Reply #53 on:** February 19, 2010, 08:08:23 AM »

Seems to be a very thin line between a Terrorist and a Patriot.
Some will say the founders of this nation were guilty of vandalism , theft and treason.
That our fathers are guilty of mass murder for bombing Japan.
While others including my self say no they were Patriots.
Some champion freedom and clamor about infringements to that fredom.
And then they cry nut case and terrorist when the means to defend that freedom gets messy.
I don't know Mr Stack or what was on his mind, or whether he was even in his right mind.
I do share a common enemy with him a government run by tyrants, But I don't share his methodology
of how to best fight them. One thing I do know is he now stands before a judge who is fair and all knowing.
May he have mercy on his soul and all of us.

Pat

MGMorden · « **Reply #54 on:** February 19, 2010, 08:26:02 AM »

Quote from: Hooker on February 19, 2010, 08:08:23 AM

And then they cry nut case and terrorist when the means to defend that freedom gets messy.

If you can't see the difference between an organized revolution and this, which was effectively a suicide bombing, then you're just being short sighted.

An end does not always justify the means. Kamikaze attacks, and suicide bombings against fellow citizens are the acts of cowards, not "patriots".

Dee · « **Reply #55 on:** February 19, 2010, 08:38:37 AM »

I wonder whom the patriots were, and whom the nut cases were, at Waco, and Ruby Ridge?

billy_56081 · « **Reply #56 on:** February 19, 2010, 08:46:10 AM »

Quote from: Dee on February 19, 2010, 08:38:37 AM

I wonder whom the patriots were, and whom the nut cases were, at Waco, and Ruby Ridge?

DEE I think most of us knew who was who there. I have visited Mt. Carmel and did alot of reading on Ruby Ridge. Poor police work on both of those cases. Koresh was known to jog almost every day. Now in your expert police opinion, would have you tried to pick him up when jogging, or when he was in a compound where you knew most folks were armed? I know where I would have nabbed him.

Guy Pike · « **Reply #57 on:** February 19, 2010, 08:57:46 AM »

Message to every level of government in the U.S.:"you have been sat here too long for any good you have been doing. Depart I say and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!" Oliver Cromwell

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #58 on:** February 19, 2010, 08:59:32 AM »

Ruby ridge and Waco , Does the word agenda mean anything ?

myronman3 · « **Reply #59 on:** February 19, 2010, 10:55:20 AM »

you will see more and more as times get tougher and the government screws more people over. people will get desperate and when they have been pushed too far, they will push back.

i think stack died a free man.