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Offline pigman

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M77 MkII Ultralight - The kick in .270 and .243 cal
« on: November 09, 2003, 12:48:38 AM »
Hi there

I am considering purchasing a ruger m77 ultalight. I want lightweight for tracking and killing pigs on foot but dont want something with too much kick.

Does anyone have any info, thoughts on the ultralight kick in .243 and .270.  Given a kick scale or 1-10 with 10 being a .308 kick, where would each rate ?

Any thoughts, experiences etc greatly appreciated

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M77 MkII Ultralight - The kick in .270 and
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2003, 04:19:13 PM »
Pigman, I don't have the Ruger U/L, but I do have a Remington Model 7 in 243. The advertised weights are very close for both rifles, so the recoil would be quite similar for both rifles. I haven't shot a 308 for years, but the kick from the Model 7 in 243 is not bad at all. I don't think that I'd want to go to a much bigger caliber in such a light rifle though. I'm also quite sure that others will disagree with me on this, but everyone has a different tolerance for recoil. I personally don't care for recoil all that much. As a matter of fact, I don't own any rifles in calibers above the 243 anymore. YMMV  MI VHNTR
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M77 MkII Ultralight - The kick in .270 and
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2003, 06:48:10 PM »
I own an M77 Ultralite...an older model with the top tang safety...in .270 and although it has a fairly good kick to it,it is still tolerable.I would compare the recoil to that of a 30-06 Remington 760 Carbine Pump.
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M77 MkII Ultralight - The kick in .270 and
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2003, 06:31:09 AM »
I've got an old model M-77RL Ultra Light in .250 Savage and another one that was originally a .270 Win, but I had it rebarrelled in 7x57 Mauser with a 22" barrel.  In the .250 Sav. with max loaded 100gr bullets at about 3000fps, the recoil, to me, feels less than a friend's Rem Model 7 in .243 shooting 100 grainers at the same velocity.  With 120gr bullets at 2800fps, the recoil is noticably more, but still what I consider to be quite light.  

So if you say the .308 with, I will assume, 180gr bullets is a 10 in kick rating, I would rate the .243 with 100 gr as a 3 and the .250 Sav with 100 gr a 2 and with 120 gr a 4.  You can easily find M-77RL Ultra Lights in .257 Roberts and, with factory loads, they would kick slightly less than my .250 Sav reloads.  With hot handloads, the recoil should be identical because the .257 Rob Ultra Light is built on the long action and is a couple ounces heavier than the .250 Sav, and this soaks up some recoil.

The Ultra Light in 7x57 kicks about a 6 with 140gr bullets loaded around max (about 2900fps).  With max loads with 160 gr bullets, it kicks about 7 to 8.  I've shot a couple of Ultra Lights in .270 and they kick about identical to my 7x57.  

You'll love the Ultra Light: they are very handy feeling and carry as easily as a .22 rimfire rifle.
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M77 MkII Ultralight - The kick in .270 and
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2003, 07:50:40 PM »
Thanks Guys,

I made a decision and went for the .243 - Im not too bad a shot and at 100yrds or less, I think a well aimed .243 will kill a pig dead just as well as a badly aimed 308 will.

now I just have to wait for it to arrive  :twisted: