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Offline rascal (Joe Duncan)

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High Density of possum & skunk
« on: November 09, 2003, 01:51:13 AM »
I have one area that I trap that is a 80 acre open pasture that is surrounded on all sides by timber land and completely blocked on the north and east sides by two rivers that connect at the northeast corner.  
  Coyotes work the pasture heavily with the main focal point seeming to be a long draw with cut banks and brushy areas along the draw.  
  Now the problem is that this particular area has a lot of possum and skunk.  I caught 18 possum in one week off one persimmon patch just at the timber edge.  
  Since I want to keep my coyote sets working without them being full of possum and skunk, what do I do?  The answer for me seemed to be this:  I put a lot of small traps just inside the timber in strategic locations all around the pasture.  I use a very loud smelling bait in these sets.  I manage to catch a lot of possum and skunk in these sets (along with coon) and keep my good coyotes sets relatively free of these unwanted catches.  Still occasionally, I will have skunk or possum mess up a good coyote set.  When that happens, I just remake the set as it seems not to do any harm.  But, I still want my coyote sets working for coyote and not possum and skunk.
  Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2003, 03:25:13 AM »
Well Joe just let Steve come down and set for yotes while you set for your yotes and you will have noooo problems lol.....  Seriously yr method of setting small traps with stinky bait is what  i do and what Leo Hoeft has done for years.

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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2003, 05:52:39 AM »
It's been a bad section of the population cycle in this section of Nebraska for both of these species as well. This year we set a record with positive rabies cases and skunks comprised a full 90% of the carriers. It is just common now to drive down any highway and get a whiff of skunk as you cruise along. The road-killed carcasses for both skunks and possums seem about as high as I ever recall.
Last year I also set a personal skunk catch all-time high, and the interesting angle on that was that all the skunks came from within a mere 2 square-mile section of land. I took 8 skunks in a small 80 acre area alone, within only a two-week stretch to boot. No small specimans, either. I was also not the only one killing skunks in this area either. My family members took 2 while pheasant hunting, I counted 4 dead on the county road that summer, and one was killed while it wandered into my in-law's front yard area. That one was submitted to the local health management department, and it did test positive for rabies. As a result, all the family pets got an immediate vaccination.
Anymore, my job is not only to take fur, predators that affect their bird hunting population, etc. but also critter control for this terrible disease.
I used to avoid skunks and possums at sets by steering clear of bait, making sure that there was no "hollow" area under the pans of my traps (skunks have a knack for digging out little hollow areas...it helps them locate grubs underground), I used snares and blind sets, and went to water trapping until a good, hard freeze hit before I made land sets at all.
Now, I set both land and water alike, use all the bait I want to, and try to remove as many skunks and possums from the immediate area population as I can. If I don't, there doesn't seem to be any other population control other than cars, coyotes, and diseases. With a huge disease presence, it is now more of a necessity to protect the family and our pets, too. I like to think that I "lay down a lot of cover scent" by trapping skunks prior to deer season around here, too. (ha ha ha)
Seriously though, the predator trapping around old skunk catch circles seems to be much better in late season. It's like putting a powerful call lure nearby my predator sets, and in late season it does seem to be helping me out more than hurting me, too. Once and awhile I have to spend a little extra time washing out a coyote or fox hide because they managed to find the old skunk carcass and either ate it or rolled in it. A post set near an old skunk catch circle, with the old skunk carcass buried right at that old set, is a great canine set. I get a lot of smelly canines that have an urge to pee after rolling around in the old skunk catch circles.
I'm not an expert by any means, and Charlie Dobbins often wrote about the merits of a post nearby something smelly to key in on canine habits like this. I am finally seeing the wisdom in his thoughts on this, and this is one way to both reduce your skunk and possum numbers "early" and then cash in on the canines later on in the same section of land.
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High Density of possum & skunk
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2003, 01:21:26 AM »
Jim-Ne;
  You stated:
  " A post set near an old skunk catch circle, with the old skunk carcass buried right at that old set, is a great canine set. "

  I totally agree:  I have one location where a rancher, who also owns a stockyard, has a place where they unload dead cattle.  They let a few of them lay there until they bring in a back-hoe to bury what is left.  

  At that area, dirtholes seem NOT to work very well.  Why dig at a small bait and lure when you got the whole cow to eat off of :P   At this location, I use mostly post and flat sets.  Some with gland lure & urine and some just urine.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2003, 03:02:25 AM »
yeah, never had good luck with food sets near a huge food source, but the territorial sets like post sets, etc. all work very well. The skunk set seems to play in more on canine's urge to pee on something nearby after rolling in something smelly. Even the dogs will pee on something after rolling in something smelly...works every time. Give them something smelly in that old skunk catch and then give them a prominent pee place nearby in a good mock post set, and it really connects well. Have yet to take a female coyote at this setup yet also, so maybe also has something to do with the territorial thing.
I also found if I use fox pee instead of coyote pee that I get a much higher catch rate...might just be some quirky thing for this part of our state, too, but that's what seems to work best for me.