I've got the newer Columbia wool blend stuff, that I bought used. Its got great water wicking properties, and is real warm. Would never have bought it new, but at the price I got it for, its super! There's so much good gear out there, that people are selling off to pay their bills. Couple months ago I bought 3 pairs of brand new in package Cabelas Polar weight long johns for $40.00 shipped. They were the older stock, but brand new! I would never have bought them from Cabelas, but for the price, it was a great deal. They are thick and super warm. Last fall I got a new Carharts full length arctic coat for $50.00 shipped. There are great deals out there.