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Scott Brown RINO
« on: February 22, 2010, 02:57:17 PM »
Well Scott Brown proved what I already knew, he is just another RINO! First chance he got he voted with the democrats and Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine, to kill a republican filibuster. I am sure the RNC is very proud of him!
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Re: Scott Brown RINO
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2010, 03:50:48 PM »
Now that's funny. The lessor of has done bit the state of Massachusetts in the butt. I'll bet him and ole McCain will be great friends. The Republicans are little better than the Democrats, and are, like the Democrats, fallin apart.
Any time ANYBODY gets elected in Massachusetts their liberal as hell. That's a gimmie.
All that horn tootin here was for nothin. He is what he is. He's not a RINO. He's a REPUBLICAN. ;) ;D
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Re: Scott Brown RINO
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2010, 06:56:03 PM »


  Noe of 'em have any standards any more, what's the surprise in that?
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Re: Scott Brown RINO
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2010, 07:15:30 PM »
The point is to get into power

Nothing else matters

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Re: Scott Brown RINO
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2010, 11:22:35 PM »
I caught hell telling people to vote third party.

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Re: Scott Brown RINO
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2010, 01:53:03 AM »
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The lessor of has done bit the state of Massachusetts in the butt.


Yep, he did. 

Been telling folks for months that Scott Brown is much worse than a RINO.  The perp is an east coast liberal and an anti-gunner.   A real conservative cannot get elected to national office in MA.  When he was sworn into office, Brown told the senate Republican leaders that he would not always vote with them.  The Republican leadership said that they understood and that was OK with them. 

Brown is well aware that he has to please the liberal voters in Boston or he will be history at re-election time.  

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Re: Scott Brown RINO
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2010, 01:59:40 AM »
You expected something else from kennedyville??????

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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2010, 02:16:14 AM »
He may of fooled a lot of other people, but I knew he would vote with the Democrats.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2010, 03:57:16 AM »
What escapes me is why anyone would be surprised in the very slightest.  ::)

I wanted him to win that election for one reason only, the reason we allready know, the Health Care Bill. If the idiot had won, we would have the Health Care Bill today, that's a no brainer. Now, it is likely that we will get it anyway, I don't know & none of us do.

To say the Mass. voters should have voted 3rd party makes no sense, they had a clown running with no indication he would have done different. If they had a Conservative running, yea voting 3rd party would have had merit.

As I said before that election, I hope he wins & the folks up there should RIGHT NOW look for a replacement for him & any Conservative third party people they can find for House elections. But I don't think those folks have it in them & don't want real Conservatives at all, the Mass. folks are Yankees taken to an extreme level (kinda like Canadian or Brit mixed in)& they think Brown is Conservative!  ::) Pathetic
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2010, 03:59:16 AM »
Redhawk The NRA and the tea party back this guy.  >:(

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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2010, 06:14:45 AM »
Well I have not done much research on the guy so I will hold my comments on him for later but... I sure as hell would not want a representative that votes party lines... I don't care what any of you say voting only on party lines leads to more of what we have now... Both sides come up with stupid crap and if it does not make sense to vote for a bill then I hope my elected reps don't even if it comes from their own party... RP is a good example of how to vote on the many bills that pass through both the house and senate... "NO"


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Re: Scott Brown RINO
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2010, 07:09:02 AM »
Redhawk The NRA and the tea party back this guy.  >:(


I am not the leader of either, so what is your point? You always try to attach one thing to another. Show me one person that is 100% and everyone agrees with, You can't so why keep trying to be a pain in my @$$.
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2010, 08:37:24 AM »
Redhawk The NRA and the tea party back this guy.  >:(


, so what is your point?
The NRA is two face they say there conservative.

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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2010, 01:34:59 AM »
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Re: Scott Brown RINO
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2010, 01:42:04 AM »
I'm still happy that Teddy the turd Kennedy is wanting some ice water real bad right now.
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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2010, 04:01:14 AM »
Scott Brown does not have his seat sewed up for six years.  He has to stand for election again at the end of what would have been the end of the "swimmer's" term.  By voting for the jobs bill, he was probably just playing a little self defense.  Why give your opponents ammunition in a time when jobs are the biggest deal going?  We're talking politics here and for a Republican from Massachusettes, Scott Brown is walking a tight wire.
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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2010, 04:09:05 AM »
Anyone watch Glen Beck yesterday.  Beck  made the point that the Republicans lied to themselves about Scott Brown.  They wanted so bad for Brown to be a "conservative" that they made him one in their minds.  Brown never claimed to be a "conservative".  It he were a real conservative he could not have been elected to dog catcher in MA.   

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Re: Scott Brown RINO
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2010, 04:26:05 AM »
The real point to this whole "mess in Mass", is that if Ted Kennedy were still alive, he would still be Senator, and they would elect him again, and again, and again.
I was in Boston when GW, was makin his first run for President, and you've never seen the pokin I was gettin about the "hick Texan" wantin to be president.
I asked the guys on the dock that were ribbin me, if they would allow a drunk to take care of their personal business. They all echoed a resounding no. I asked them then: Why do you continue to elect Ted Kennedy? No answer, and no more discussion of politics.
Scott Brown is not a RINO. He's a Republican, just like John McCain is a Republican, and half the guys on this thread (or more) voted for him, for President. Brown sided with the Democrats, and so has McCain. Does the McCain-Feingold Act ring a bell for anyone? Does a 72% of the time, anti-2nd Amendment voting RECORD over the past 30 years tell you ANYTHING? Scott Brown is a REPUBLICAN.
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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2010, 08:39:36 AM »
McCain-Feingold was the least putrid thing that McCain did.  McCain teamed up with Teddy Baby Kennedy on the sick Kennedy-McCain amnesty for illegal aliens scam.   Read about the Lieberman-McCain "gunshow loophole bill" that Juan sponsored:  

By Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
Mass media publicity on the newly proposed gun-show bill is grossly inaccurate.
The bill has almost nothing to do with what you've probably heard so far. The so-called "gun-show loophole" headlines are a minor detail and basically obscure what the bill really does.
I've just finished studying the eight pages of legalese. Here is it what it calls for:
1. Unprecedented federal control over gun shows nationwide -- perfectly legal gun shows become strictly outlawed without prior federal approval, licensing and registration of each show;
2. Centralized federal licensing and registration of every gun-show promoter in the nation;
3. Centralized federal registration of every vendor -- including non-gun vendors -- at any gun show in the country. In order for me to sell my BOOKS at a gun show I'll have to pre-register and prove who I am, or face arrest; a private individual looking to sell a single gun would be treated as a vendor under this law and must be registered even if the gun isn't sold;
4. Centralized federal registration of EVERY PERSON who attends a gun show in America, whether or not they make purchases of anything at all -- you won't be allowed in without registering;
5. Centralized collection of "any other information" on gun-show attendees, as determined solely by the Secretary of the Treasury;
6. Imprisonment for attending a gun show and failing to give up any information required by regulations of the Secretary of the Treasury;
7. Imprisonment of any gun-show promoter who fails to register a single vendor;
8. Imprisonment of gun-show promoters who cannot prove they notified every person attending a gun show of the new rules, and obtained from attendees any information the Secretary of the Treasury mandates by regulation;
9. Centralized collection of "any other information" the Secretary [/quote] of the Treasury decides, by regulation, is necessary on vendors, attendees, and the gun show itself;
10. Submission by gun-show promoters of vendor registration logs a) 30 days before any gun show, and b) additional submission of updated vendor registration logs 72 hours before any gun show, and c) additional submission of vendor registration logs within five days of the close of any gun show, under penalty of arrest and imprisonment for non-compliance;
11. Identification of vendors only by use of federally approved photo ID that may include use of a social security number, electronically encoded data, or "biometric identifiers" such as fingerprint, voice print, retina scan, iris scan, or similar (as defined under 18 USC 1028(d)(2));
12. Creation of a new license (in addition to a gun-show-promoter license), similar to FFLs, for individuals who want access to the NICS national background check system for facilitating gun-show sales for private citizens;
13. Regulations to be issued by the Secretary of the Treasury on the procedures, data collections, methods and implementation of the entire process to federally control gun shows, in addition to the requirements made by the proposed statute; such regulations will not be known, drafted or even suggested, until after the McCain-Lieberman law is enacted;
14. The proposed bill also puts pressure on state governments to make at least 95% of their law enforcement records for the past 30 years openly available to the federal government; and
-- makes unlimited funds available for the states to comply with these federal goals;
-- requires annual federal review of states' compliance;
-- increases penalties (up to ten years imprisonment) for record-keeping violations;
-- grants states permission to make even more restrictive requirements without being out of compliance with these new federal laws (and by implication, puts states that resist these rules in federal trouble);
-- provides hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars for more law enforcement under numerous programs including project Exile and others;
-- hires 200 more Federal BATF Agents;
-- provides $10 million to the National Institute for Justice to give out for research on "technologies that limit the use of a gun to the owner"; and
-- provides for annual reports (in great detail) by the Attorney General to Congress on whether the Brady law is working;
15. Enlargement of the federal bureaucracy and appropriation from taxpayers of "such funds as are necessary" to license, register and monitor an estimated ten million non-criminals who attend the thousands of gun shows held annually in America; and
16. Oh yes, I almost forgot about the so-called "loophole" part the media is so excited about -- the McCain-Lieberman bill will make an honest private citizen a criminal for transferring a gun to another honest private citizen, without first registering the transfer with, and getting permission from, the federal government (represented by the FBI at its data complex in Clarksburg, West Virginia).
Transfer or possession of a firearm to or by a criminal (a "federally prohibited possessor") is completely unaffected by the McCain-Lieberman "loophole" bill, so I guess it's accurate to characterize it as a loophole bill.
To sum up: Perfectly legal gun sales -- with no victims or criminal activity of any kind -- are outlawed at gun shows by the McCain-Lieberman bill, unless the sale is pre-registered with the federal government; real crimes are totally unaffected; and your friends in the federal government take over full control of gun shows -- which have been previously free of government infringement for more than 200 years.
Please write your local news outlet and politely request a correction.
Permission to circulate or use any or all of this report is granted, provided my credit and contact information is included.
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Re: Scott Brown RINO
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2010, 10:37:32 AM »
Think of a Democratic controlled house and senate, with McCain as President. With McCain's experience and friends in both houses, he could have done an untold amount of damage in a much shorter period of time than the present "traitor in chief".
It was a lose-lose situation with either candidate at election time.
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Re: Scott Brown RINO
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2010, 11:52:33 AM »
McCain is anti gun and Reid is pro gun. Are guns really a Dem vs Rep issue? Or a geographic one?

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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2010, 01:50:27 PM »
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Are guns really a Dem vs Rep issue? Or a geographic one?

It is a fact that there are more dedicated and passionate anti-gunners on the Democrat side.  Most of the antis are from the northeastern US, MI, WI, MN, IL and the west coast and HI.  It should be pointed out that the late Republican congress never did anything for gun owners.  They could have rolled back some anti-gun laws but Bush did not want it.

The first person to refer to the ATF as "jackbooted thugs" was Democrat congressman Dingell.  You hear a lot of folks curse Murtha but he was the one of best friends that we gunowners had in congress. 

In 1993 the "assault weapons ban" passed the US house by one vote.  That vote was congressman Michels, the Republican minority leader.  38 Republkicans voted for the AWB and 76 Democrats voted against it.

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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2010, 02:08:58 PM »
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Are guns really a Dem vs Rep issue? Or a geographic one?

It is a fact that there are more dedicated and passionate anti-gunners on the Democrat side.  Most of the antis are from the northeastern US, MI, WI, MN, IL and the west coast and HI.  It should be pointed out that the late Republican congress never did anything for gun owners.  They could have rolled back some anti-gun laws but Bush did not want it.

The first person to refer to the ATF as "jackbooted thugs" was Democrat congressman Dingell.  You hear a lot of folks curse Murtha but he was the one of best friends that we gunowners had in congress.  

In 1993 the "assault weapons ban" passed the US house by one vote.  That vote was congressman Michels, the Republican minority leader.  38 Republkicans voted for the AWB and 76 Democrats voted against it.
Harry Reid voted NO on the 1993 AWB. And NO on the reup in 2004. Effectively stopping a bill that Bush said that he would sign the second it hit his desk. Go figure. Maybe Bush was a RINO.

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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2010, 02:37:37 PM »
In 2004 the US senate voted to extend the AWB.  Ten Republicans in the senate voted for the AWB extension.

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In the Senate, the Republican defectors include Sens. Lincoln Chafee (R.I.), Susan Collins (Maine), Mike DeWine (Ohio), Peter Fitzgerald (Ill.), Judd Gregg (N.H.), Richard Lugar (Ind.), Gordon Smith (Ore.), Olympia Snowe (Maine), George Voinovich (Ohio) and John Warner (Va.).

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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2010, 02:50:37 PM »
GW Bush told Congress if they would get a bill together that would make the Assault Weapons Ban PERMANENT, he would sign it. They declined.

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« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2010, 02:56:28 PM »
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They declined.

Despite pressure from the white house, Speaker of the house Hastert held tight and refused to schedule hearings on an extension of the AWB.  The senate voted to extend the AWB.

I don't miss Bush either. 

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« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2010, 03:47:31 PM »
McCain-Feingold was the least putrid thing that McCain did.  McCain teamed up with Teddy Baby Kennedy on the sick Kennedy-McCain amnesty for illegal aliens scam.   Read about the Lieberman-McCain "gunshow loophole bill" that Juan sponsored:  

By Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
Mass media publicity on the newly proposed gun-show bill is grossly inaccurate.
The bill has almost nothing to do with what you've probably heard so far. The so-called "gun-show loophole" headlines are a minor detail and basically obscure what the bill really does.
I've just finished studying the eight pages of legalese. Here is it what it calls for:
1. Unprecedented federal control over gun shows nationwide -- perfectly legal gun shows become strictly outlawed without prior federal approval, licensing and registration of each show;
2. Centralized federal licensing and registration of every gun-show promoter in the nation;
3. Centralized federal registration of every vendor -- including non-gun vendors -- at any gun show in the country. In order for me to sell my BOOKS at a gun show I'll have to pre-register and prove who I am, or face arrest; a private individual looking to sell a single gun would be treated as a vendor under this law and must be registered even if the gun isn't sold;
4. Centralized federal registration of EVERY PERSON who attends a gun show in America, whether or not they make purchases of anything at all -- you won't be allowed in without registering;
5. Centralized collection of "any other information" on gun-show attendees, as determined solely by the Secretary of the Treasury;
6. Imprisonment for attending a gun show and failing to give up any information required by regulations of the Secretary of the Treasury;
7. Imprisonment of any gun-show promoter who fails to register a single vendor;
8. Imprisonment of gun-show promoters who cannot prove they notified every person attending a gun show of the new rules, and obtained from attendees any information the Secretary of the Treasury mandates by regulation;
9. Centralized collection of "any other information" the Secretary
of the Treasury decides, by regulation, is necessary on vendors, attendees, and the gun show itself;
10. Submission by gun-show promoters of vendor registration logs a) 30 days before any gun show, and b) additional submission of updated vendor registration logs 72 hours before any gun show, and c) additional submission of vendor registration logs within five days of the close of any gun show, under penalty of arrest and imprisonment for non-compliance;
11. Identification of vendors only by use of federally approved photo ID that may include use of a social security number, electronically encoded data, or "biometric identifiers" such as fingerprint, voice print, retina scan, iris scan, or similar (as defined under 18 USC 1028(d)(2));
12. Creation of a new license (in addition to a gun-show-promoter license), similar to FFLs, for individuals who want access to the NICS national background check system for facilitating gun-show sales for private citizens;
13. Regulations to be issued by the Secretary of the Treasury on the procedures, data collections, methods and implementation of the entire process to federally control gun shows, in addition to the requirements made by the proposed statute; such regulations will not be known, drafted or even suggested, until after the McCain-Lieberman law is enacted;
14. The proposed bill also puts pressure on state governments to make at least 95% of their law enforcement records for the past 30 years openly available to the federal government; and
-- makes unlimited funds available for the states to comply with these federal goals;
-- requires annual federal review of states' compliance;
-- increases penalties (up to ten years imprisonment) for record-keeping violations;
-- grants states permission to make even more restrictive requirements without being out of compliance with these new federal laws (and by implication, puts states that resist these rules in federal trouble);
-- provides hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars for more law enforcement under numerous programs including project Exile and others;
-- hires 200 more Federal BATF Agents;
-- provides $10 million to the National Institute for Justice to give out for research on "technologies that limit the use of a gun to the owner"; and
-- provides for annual reports (in great detail) by the Attorney General to Congress on whether the Brady law is working;
15. Enlargement of the federal bureaucracy and appropriation from taxpayers of "such funds as are necessary" to license, register and monitor an estimated ten million non-criminals who attend the thousands of gun shows held annually in America; and
16. Oh yes, I almost forgot about the so-called "loophole" part the media is so excited about -- the McCain-Lieberman bill will make an honest private citizen a criminal for transferring a gun to another honest private citizen, without first registering the transfer with, and getting permission from, the federal government (represented by the FBI at its data complex in Clarksburg, West Virginia).
Transfer or possession of a firearm to or by a criminal (a "federally prohibited possessor") is completely unaffected by the McCain-Lieberman "loophole" bill, so I guess it's accurate to characterize it as a loophole bill.
To sum up: Perfectly legal gun sales -- with no victims or criminal activity of any kind -- are outlawed at gun shows by the McCain-Lieberman bill, unless the sale is pre-registered with the federal government; real crimes are totally unaffected; and your friends in the federal government take over full control of gun shows -- which have been previously free of government infringement for more than 200 years.
Please write your local news outlet and politely request a correction.
Permission to circulate or use any or all of this report is granted, provided my credit and contact information is included.
Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America 
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That's a rough deal, wow!!
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Re: Scott Brown RINO
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2010, 03:50:10 PM »
I like RINOs.
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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2010, 04:52:22 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2010, 10:37:37 AM »
Anyone watch Glen Beck yesterday.  Beck  made the point that the Republicans lied to themselves about Scott Brown.  They wanted so bad for Brown to be a "conservative" that they made him one in their minds.  Brown never claimed to be a "conservative".  It he were a real conservative he could not have been elected to dog catcher in MA.   

+1  The country as a whole is so dis-enchanted with the whole mess that they readily jump at anything that just might be a little bit better.  As I watched Beck give all of these examples of politicians looking us in the eye and lying.  That got me thinking if we quit looking at party affiliation you're still stuck with the politician aspect.  Which means that so many have low or non-existent ethical standards.  So what do we do?

We are getting ready to vote for governor here in Texas.  Early voting has already started.  As I've studied the field I feel frustrated because the candidates leave a lot to be desired.