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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2010, 03:03:44 AM »
Well it depends on the application since I already have 4 30-06's.

1) Mauser 98 action, jeweled bolt, bell&carlson stock, fluted stainless 26" barrel

2) Sako Finnwolf (if it can be had for $1k)

3) Remington 700 CDL

Out of these, the Remington will probably adorn my safe at some point in the near future. I have a few of the 700's and after my smith goes through them they are the best actions I have ever touched. They are good out of the box, but once polished and jeweled they are tough to beat.

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2010, 03:52:44 AM »
If I had $1000.00 to spend on the rifle alone, I would look for a Pre '64 Model 70 in 30-06. Some think they're over priced, but to each his/her own. They just happen to be MY favorite rifles and I have been lucky to own several of them. Say what you want about synthetic/stainless/ultra mag/whiz bang whatever, but for me I'll always take blued steel and walnut and American made in standard calibers over the glitzy foreign stuff or latest super magnum. It's great having choices and the freedom to make them. God bless the U.S.A. and remember our troops.

I agree with this, especially since you mentioned that you would like to pass it to your kids.  A pre-64 brings a bit of classic american history and class that most of these new guns don't match, at least to me. 

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2010, 09:12:11 AM »
The pre 64 Winchester and the Mauser action would be something I would be looking at . The mauser could be tricked up and restocked , but this too might be over budget . The pre 64 Winchester could maybe be refinshed and restocked .
The Sako 75 is a good rifle , but forget the model 85 .
Out of the box my vote would be an A bolt . The trigger would be something a Smith would still need to look at , if your like me that likes his crisp two pound pull. My New a bolt will only adjust down to about three and a half.

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2010, 02:32:11 PM »
Best 30-06 rifle I ever had was an early version of the Remington 700 Classic.  In the beginning they offered about six chamberings in the Classic before the went to one per year.  There was nothing special about mine except that it hit and killed most things I pointed it at.  It was a pleasure to carry.  It was scoped with an old Leupold 3X9.  I called it Betsy.

Sadly one year it would not group as tight as before and I had a craving for a 280AI.  The old 30-06 barrel was demoted to a horse shoe stake and the 700 receiver was trued, its bolt was lapped, etc, and mated with a 26" match Shilen barrel.  It was a 1980's beanfield rifle.  The combination of longer barrel and Leupold LPS scope must surely weigh 11lbs.  I'm too old to carry it now.  Never was a great rifle but it sure was one heck of a 30-06 in its youth (fow about 15 years).

I turned a great rifle into a $1000+ replacement, yet the original is till my favorite.  Look at Kenny Jarret's website.  He may have an early Jarret trade in that can be had in your price range.

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2010, 07:20:43 PM »
I came very close to buying a $1000 30-06 about a month ago at a gun show. it was a real pretty sako (L61)?  with manlicher stock.  I tried to work on the seller but he said it was a consignment and wouldn't budge.

those full stocks scare the heck out of me but I was willing to take the chance.

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2010, 09:21:44 PM »
Weatherby Mark V Ultra Lightweight in 30-06 Springfield.  I bought one in 338-06 A-Square.

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2010, 07:07:30 AM »
I was just in the same predicament!!

Just replaced my Rem 700 KS Mountain Rifle in 06 with a SAKO A7 -blued version- in 06.  My beloved remmi was worn and tired and a new barrel was out as the kevlar stock was thin and had little room for grinding to bed a new barrel. If I rebarreled I'd have needed a new stock and well that's the cost of a new rifle.  I was looking for a rifle at or under $1000.  Looked at a new SAKO 85 in 06 but even discounted it would have been $1200 plus tax plus the special sako bases and rings (another $150ish). 

So, I looked at the A7 for about $800 and it fit the bill.  It's on order and I can't wait to get it!!
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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2010, 07:20:10 AM »
Remington Model 700 Boone & Crockett
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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2010, 07:47:03 AM »

   Well, you have sure gotten alot of good advice.  A couple of points:

   The Remington 700 Classic is a great rifle, but due to the classic styling of the stock, it does not have much of a raised cheekpiece.  So, if you have small cheekbones, you are going to have trouble looking through a scope.  Even with the lowest scope mounts, some people have to lift their head and perch their chin on the stock, which results in a bad cheekweld, poor shooting, and a punch in the face. 

   For pure performance, the Tikka is a great rifle.  But, it doesn't have a classic look.

   For a classic rifle, that will increase in value, I would strongly vote for the pre-64 Model 70 Winchester.  It will take some looking, but you will be able to find one in good shape at $1,000, though the stock will probably have to be refinished.  If you take your time, however, refinishing the stocks on these is easy, because they generally have beautiful walnut, far far above what is currently being used on even high priced rifles.

   As Swampy will tell you, the pre-64 Model 70 is generally a 1.5 inch MOA rifle, instead of a 1 inch MOA rifle.  (If you want a 1 inch rifle, buy a Rem. 700 BDL).  But for me, I say, who cares?  You are buying a .30-06 to shoot big game, not to shoot prarie dogs.   

  Finn Aagard's favorite rifle, pictured countless times in about 25 years of his Articles, was an early commercial FN 98 rifle, in .30-06, with a stepped down military barrel (since it was made by just after the war).  As he wrote, the rifle would only group 2 inches at 100 yards.  And yet, he killed hundreds of head of medium and big game with it over the years, particulary elk.  He thought the relentless obsession by people for 1 inch groups was absolutely ridiculous.  Instead of spending countless hours shooting from a bench, he felt that people should spend their time shooting from hunting positions, and scouting the fields, if they wanted to be good hunters.

  A final thought, if you decide you would like a Mauser, then I would HIGHLY recommend an FN 98 Supreme Mauser, made in the 1950s.  These are beautiful commercial mausers, and Frank DeHaas refers to them in his books as the highest and best commercial mausers that were ever factory made.     The stocks are French walnut, and they have beautiful checkering, including a small dot pattern around the top of the grip cap.   My only criticism of these is that they are somewhat heavy.  I believe that without a scope they are probably around 8 pounds.  As you will find, however, all mauser 98s are heavy.  Its the nature of the design and materials.

Just some thoughts.

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2010, 08:39:53 AM »
If I were going to get a Winchester, it would be one of the current FNs
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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2010, 01:10:04 PM »
The real problem with a $1,000 dollar gun is not the gun you can buy but the GUNS you can buy.

I only have one rifle that cost over $1000 and the next most expensive was under $500 new.  Most are used and cost anywhere from $250 to $375.  Funny thing, the used rifles shoot as well as the ones I purchased new.

For what it is worth, I have three .30-06 rifles in the safe.  In order of purchase

$350 Ruger M77 blue/walnut, used, purchased November 2006
$425 Remingon M700 blue/walnut, new, purchased March 2008
$375 Ruger MKII stainless/laminate, used, purchased Aprl 2010
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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2010, 02:45:09 PM »
Those Rugers sell cheap.
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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2010, 02:47:20 PM »
  I'd buy a Rem. 700 mountain rifle, and scope it with a 3x9 Zeiss.  Even if i bought them both new, it wouldn't cost over 1K, and even if i had double the amount of $$ to spend, my choise would stay the same.

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2010, 04:49:32 PM »
I could easily fall for one of the Rem anniversary model 30-06.  Wood with the SS fluted barrel.  My buddy had one and traded it for the Rem anniversary 280.  But that 06 was a beautiful rifle.

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2010, 05:15:04 PM »
There are many fine firearms in the States and abroad . The Tikka is not limited to the poylmer t3  , and the CZ also come to mind. Browning , Winchester and remington all have top lines .
The point is that a fancy finish or stock does not make the rifle . We have a Ruger MK2 , that is more of a Hunters Gun that has provided game to us always- when ever we did our part . It is more important to have a rifle that fits you than how it looks . If you can spare the cash then spend some money on having that gun tuned and install a good scope equal to the value of the gun or even more . This is going to help you to harverst game , and you have the convence in having good equipment .
Then your children will remember it as "Dads" gun - the one he shot game with instead of something of $ value.
Our Dad had a "ol winchester 94 from when he was a kid . It was the every day cheap 30/30 model with lots of dings and bluing completey worn off. He shot many deer with it , over this many years .No one will ever take a thousand or two either for Grampa's  Gun.
He is remembered for being a good hunter and having that 30/ 30 that served him so well. He did not need any thing fancy or gold engraved to show off in front of the boys in camp . What he showed us all is what it was to be a good hunter .

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2010, 07:10:33 PM »
Those Rugers sell cheap.

They all sell cheap even used Remington 700’s, Winchester 70’s, or Weatherby Mark V’s or any other firearm.  All manufactures can be purchased at reduced prices the deals are out there.

Also I have a Ruger M77 MKII in 270 Winchester that wears a Leupold Vari-X II 3-9x40mm and this setup delivers consistent MOA accuracy.  It has an excellent factory trigger, very nice walnut stock.  Price was cheap; my father in-law won it on a raffle with only one ticket.  He doesn’t hunt, so it came home with me.

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2010, 07:52:16 PM »

Those Rugers sell cheap.

As the buyer, I’d say that is a GOOD thing...

Wish I could get my new Remington M700, acquired in 2008, to shoot as well as my Rugers, new or used...

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2010, 12:52:08 AM »
I'm seeing lots of M77s for $250.00.  Model 700s around here never bring around $400.00.
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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2010, 02:45:24 AM »
Oh mannn....where are you guys liv'n.  Here in NE the prices for used are easily half as much more.  A used Ruger or Remmi for under $400...not a chance.
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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2010, 03:48:04 AM »
Oh mannn....where are you guys liv'n.  Here in NE the prices for used are easily half as much more.  A used Ruger or Remmi for under $400...not a chance.

Picked up the used Ruger M77 .30-06 in Conley, TX, in 2006 when my wife was being treated for leukemia at MD Anderson in Houston.  Planned to go hog hunting, never got to.

The new Remington .30-06 was purchased at Dick's in Denver, 2008

The used Ruger MKII .30-06 was purchased in Denver at the Tanner Gun Show a couple months ago.

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #50 on: July 08, 2010, 05:38:52 AM »

Heirloom quality...for 1k or under..nothing new will fit that bill..To me you are going to have to spend considerably more for one.Now if you just wanting a blue steel/walnut stocked 30-06 that doesn't feel like a club..then find a nice Browning single shot like this one..http://www.gunsinternational.com/Browning-78-Caliber-30-06.cfm?gun_id=100128534&CFID=8743164&CFTOKEN=13e1b549093db5e2-80262593-F3E4-C316-511F8CE26792D9A0 To me this would be worthy of calling it Heirloom quality..it is unique..and of high enough quality to work with your budget..Now if you just want a very good rifle to pass down after you have used it for awhile..Weatherby,Remington,Winchester,Kimber.Sako.CZ,Mauser all make some very nice rifles that will work for you.

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #51 on: July 08, 2010, 07:39:49 AM »
Ever consider a #1???
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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2010, 09:28:16 AM »
If the OP hasn't bought a rifle in the 7 years this thread has been running , I don't think he ever will  ;D  My vote is to buy smart, Purchase a Marlin XL7 in 30.06 replace the stock with one of Boyds stocks ofr the XL7 they relased on July 4th, place a scope on it that satisfies your tastes and you'll have an equal to anyones $1000 naked rifles with your $300 rifle.   ;D .DT

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #53 on: July 09, 2010, 03:23:15 AM »
well being older ,id see if theres a  lightweight equeal of my 110 savage in accuracy.. in semi auto ...
 one that was made durable enough to stand for long periods of possible use with low maintenance..
 don t know if such a gun exist.. it would probably be  more than a thousand dollars,, if it exist..
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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #54 on: July 09, 2010, 04:15:57 AM »
I thouht this fellow wanted a $1000.00 .30-06 not the cheapest thing you can buy.  The Model 700 is definately heirloom quality.  The Ruger #1 is cool but not very accurate.
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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #55 on: July 09, 2010, 02:20:37 PM »
Wincherster (FNC) Model 70 Featherweight...most beautiful rifle in the world!  IMO
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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #56 on: July 09, 2010, 03:32:55 PM »
It is nice that we can now buy accurate Winchesters from the factory & they are nice looking too.
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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #57 on: July 17, 2010, 03:32:13 PM »
Couple of different things I'd think about.

Weatherby has some SWEET rifles, probably the nicest "factory" guns around.

The Remington 700 Boone and Crockett is a really nice gun too.  Other than the fact that it's a Remington, all the components are about right on.

The BEST option, IMO, is the ER Shaw Mark VII rifle.  Savage action, tang safety, Accu-Tigger.  Perfect.  Your pick of stocks. Perfect.  Your choice of caliber and barrel.  Perfect.  Reputation for quality and consistent accuracy.  Perfect.

Another way is to talk to small guns shops and see what they'd charge to build a rifle for you.  Years ago, I was thinking of the same thing, and I found several "small" shops that would do a gun with my choice of barrel style and chambering (most were Douglas barrels), laminated stock, glass bed, re-worked mauser action, good trigger, etc.  For $1000 or less.

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #58 on: July 18, 2010, 10:15:56 AM »
Couple of different things I'd think about.

Weatherby has some SWEET rifles, probably the nicest "factory" guns around.

The Remington 700 Boone and Crockett is a really nice gun too.  Other than the fact that it's a Remington, all the components are about right on.

The BEST option, IMO, is the ER Shaw Mark VII rifle.  Savage action, tang safety, Accu-Tigger.  Perfect.  Your pick of stocks. Perfect.  Your choice of caliber and barrel.  Perfect.  Reputation for quality and consistent accuracy.  Perfect.

Another way is to talk to small guns shops and see what they'd charge to build a rifle for you.  Years ago, I was thinking of the same thing, and I found several "small" shops that would do a gun with my choice of barrel style and chambering (most were Douglas barrels), laminated stock, glass bed, re-worked mauser action, good trigger, etc.  For $1000 or less.

The Shaw rifle looks to be a good one to have,but you have really got to like Savages to consider them and spend a lot to even with Shaw to really make them worthy of consideration. I like your Mauser idea much more IMHO..and is certainly more unique in these days of mass produced rifles.

Swampy..a run of the mill mod 700 Remmy Heirloom quality..No..sorry..One of their higher grades or Limited edition commemoratives ...yup...I can see that,but I think unless bought used or at a incredible price new to begin with they will be more money than $1K..that is of course if our definition of what Heirloom Quality is the same..AFAIK any Model 700 is worthy of being passed down to our children or loved ones..but a Heirloom Quality piece means more than that to me..It means something that is unique in it's nature and has a history of sorts to it by where it has been,who owned it,when it was built and also being built with better than those of average parts by a higher standard than most other things like it, be it a piece of furniture,a clock, or any firearm. It doesn't have to be a museum quality piece,but it certainly has to be better in some regard than what you can normally get.

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Re: Pick a $1,000 30-06
« Reply #59 on: July 18, 2010, 01:56:58 PM »
Yeah, I liked the Mauser thing too.  The shop was in Ohio, but for the life of me, I can't remember the website. 

I was getting three barreled actions with Douglas barrels:

7.62x39 on a mini mauser with a 21" med contour barrel

.223 on a mini mauser with a 23" med/hvy contour

.308 on a mauser with a 23" med/hvy contour

It was going to run around $800 each out the door, fully finished, scope ready, good triggers, and ready to stock.  I was going with either Bell and Carlson or Boyds laminated stocks.  I hadn't decided which.

Then we found out that son #3 was on the way and we decided to get a bigger house.  Soooo....

I still dream about how nice they would have been.   :D