Man Has 20 kids with 11 Women: You're Paying for Them

[lgm270]

Wow. This black guy had 20 children with 11 different women.   He makes minimum wage.  Who do you think supports his kids?  YOU DO!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH93LQ-nU0s

Barak Obama Sr. , father of  our current President, has a similar history, although on a much smaller order of magnitude.

In 1954 he married his first wife, a Kenyan tribeswoman, with whom he had 3 children.

1n 1961, he traveled to the US on scholarship and married Ann Dunham and  had Barak Jr.  Unfortunately, he never bothered to divorce his first wife nor to advise Ann Dunham that was was already married.    He grew bored with Ann Dunham and took off to Harvard U, leaving her to support Barak Jr. alone.

In 1964, at Harvard he met another woman named Ruth Nidesand. She followed him back to Kenya, married him and had  2 sons by him before divorcing him for spousal abuse.

He also had a son named George Obama with a woman named Jaeli. 

That's 7 kids with 4 different women and he didn't support any of them.     

[powderman]

There was a guy on the maurey show who bragged about fathering 26, said he just liked to spread his love around. Yes, he too was black. I saw a woman on maurey a few years ago who had 15 men tested, yep, FIFTEEN, to try to find the father of her baby. They all failed. Yes, they too were black, UHHHHHHHH, I mean african American. POWDERMAN.

[gypsyman]

Why do you think that black guys always refer to each other as ''brother''. Most never really know who their father is. So their not taking chance's. gypsyman

[Dee]

I know a guy that gets $86,000.00 dollars a year in welfare, and his wife gets $74,550.00 in welfare. He drives a $58,000.00 Ford pickup, and she drives a $57,000.00 Ford SUV, and they trade vehicles every year. They have a 4 bedroom, 3 bath house, an in ground swimmin pool that's heated with an expensive propane system. They take 3 to 4 expensive vacations a year, and the last one, they spent about 3 weeks in Colorado in their 37' fifth wheel. She almost never cooks, and they eat out at nothing but the finest restaurants several times a day.
In fact! I know several families in this town that are drawing welfare on the same scale or bigger, are you upset about them?
Now! Your payin their welfare. Are you upset about his and hers, and the others I know, cause their all WHITE?

[SHOOTALL]

Dee is right i had a white guy working with me that married a woman with 5 kids none had same dad . Yep one was his . When both whites and blacks start seeing people as indivisuals instead of a race it will be then we can fix the problem  .

[guzzijohn]

Dee,
Could you explain more how these people get that kind of money? In Kansas an adult individual can only get food stamps and medicaid and/or disability which is under a $1,000 per month. If the individual has children I think the current rate is $600 something a child. So even if the parents were both on disability and they had 10 minor children they would get about $93,600. Vehicles have to be valued at less than $5,000 and would only be allowed one if both on disability and married to each other. I always thought Texas had tighter benefits than Kansas.
GuzziJohn

[Dee]

I'd be happy to explain, and by the way, their kids are all grown, and some are doing the same thing, to the same magnitude. It's something you've heard about I'm sure but, something you have never looked into, or thought much about.

Their FARMERS. They get FARM SUBSIDIES, AND THEN THEY FILE ON THE SAME LAND AND CROPS IN THEIR NON-FARMER WIVES NAMES AND GET DUPLICATE AMOUNTS OR NEAR DUPLICATE AMOUNTS.

Do you guys really believe that folks living in shacks and drawing welfare checks, and having very little in the way of personal property, is any different than a bunch of farmers living virtually, like British Dukes and Earls, on you tax dollar?

Aren't you more insulted that they live lavish life styles, and all the while portraying themselves as victims, and complaining about crop prices? Aren't you more insulted that you bust your ass, to pay your taxes, and feed your families, and they take these subsidies, write off their expenses and pay little or NO taxes, and can buy "farm fuel" with NO TAX what so ever? Aren't you more insulted that if they have a crop failure, for one reason or another, that they collect insurance AND a disaster subsidy as well. Aren't you more insulted that NO ONE PAYS YOU ANY KIND OF A SUBSIDY, but YOU PAY SOMEONE ELSE WHOM IS LIVING FAR BETTER THAN YOUR YOURSELF ARE ABLE TO LIVE? I AM.

The black man is a minority in this country, less than 30% of the population I believe. There are far more white people on welfare than blacks and Mexicans combined. I am not in any way trying to justify anyone that can work living on welfare. I'm just saying there are far more folks that portray themselves as victimized Americans that are the opposite. They are on the dole to a tune that would make New Orleans, or South Dallas look pretty insignificant, yet they themselves b@#%h to high heaven about these welfare recipients.
In other words, there are many of these pickup driving, seed cap wearing, Flag waving Americans that are on FARM SUBSIDIZED "WELFARE" to the tune of BILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR, and they personally are getting hundreds of thousands of dollars EACH a year.

Don't take my word for it. Go to "EWG Farm Subsidy Database", and check it out for yourself. You can do it by state, county, zip code, town, or by individual names. A very knowledgeable gentleman by the handle of dukkiller, whom I tend to infuriate at times gave me this information and site, and ti was enlightening to say the very least.

[SHOOTALL]

Dee , I got 1 bull , 1 cow , and 3 heifers . I know what ya mean 

[alsaqr]

Their FARMERS. They get FARM SUBSIDIES, AND THEN THEY FILE ON THE SAME LAND AND CROPS IN THEIR NON-FARMER WIVES NAMES AND GET DUPLICATE AMOUNTS OR NEAR DUPLICATE AMOUNTS.

Do you guys really believe that folks living in shacks and drawing welfare checks, and having very little in the way of personal property, is any different than a bunch of farmers living virtually, like British Dukes and Earls, on you tax dollar?

Dee is spot on.  Folks worry too much about some poor mom who cannot support her kids without help when so called "farmers" are stealing us blind.   There is so much fraud in this farm welfare scam that it is nearly unbelievable.  Many of the "farm" welfare families get two slices of the farm welfare pie for the same "farm" property.  It does not good to write the political pukes who represent OK in DC.  They are all in favor of farm welfare.    

Find out who the farm welfare king and queen are in your county:

http://farm.ewg.org/farm/region.php?fips=00000


While you're at it check on those lily white offshoot  Mormons who have twenty kids by several wives.  The husbands give all their wages to their "prophet" Warren Jeffs.  Then those wives go to the welfare office and sign up as unwed mothers.  They call it "bleeding the beast." 

  

[Clodhopper]

I grew up in Florida and there was this family that lived near by. They all lived on a section of land that had been homesteaded by one of their ancestors and they were all on welfare.  There was about three generations living there when I was a kid and the last time I was down there it was about 4 or 5 generations.  they all have fairly nice houses and drive fairly new cars or pickups.  Every house had a sattelite dish on it  None of them have ever had a job, other than dealing drugs, and almost all of them were heavily into alcohol or drugs.  The deal was to have as many kids as you could because you get money for each kid so they had lots.  They are all white by the way!  My dad had a grocery store and I can remember large amounts of people showing up on the first of the month to get their groceries and I could never figure out what kinds of jobs they had.  As I grew older I realized that they were all on welfare.  When my brother got out of the service back in the 70s he found out that he could make more money on welfare than working.  We got something wrong here!

[lgm270]

I'd be happy to explain, and by the way, their kids are all grown, and some are doing the same thing, to the same magnitude. It's something you've heard about I'm sure but, something you have never looked into, or thought much about.

Their FARMERS. They get FARM SUBSIDIES, AND THEN THEY FILE ON THE SAME LAND AND CROPS IN THEIR NON-FARMER WIVES NAMES AND GET DUPLICATE AMOUNTS OR NEAR DUPLICATE AMOUNTS.

Do you guys really believe that folks living in shacks and drawing welfare checks, and having very little in the way of personal property, is any different than a bunch of farmers living virtually, like British Dukes and Earls, on you tax dollar?

Aren't you more insulted that they live lavish life styles, and all the while portraying themselves as victims, and complaining about crop prices? Aren't you more insulted that you bust your ass, to pay your taxes, and feed your families, and they take these subsidies, write off their expenses and pay little or NO taxes, and can buy "farm fuel" with NO TAX what so ever? Aren't you more insulted that if they have a crop failure, for one reason or another, that they collect insurance AND a disaster subsidy as well. Aren't you more insulted that NO ONE PAYS YOU ANY KIND OF A SUBSIDY, but YOU PAY SOMEONE ELSE WHOM IS LIVING FAR BETTER THAN YOUR YOURSELF ARE ABLE TO LIVE? I AM.

The black man is a minority in this country, less than 30% of the population I believe. There are far more white people on welfare than blacks and Mexicans combined. I am not in any way trying to justify anyone that can work living on welfare. I'm just saying there are far more folks that portray themselves as victimized Americans that are the opposite. They are on the dole to a tune that would make New Orleans, or South Dallas look pretty insignificant, yet they themselves b@#%h to high heaven about these welfare recipents.
In other words, there are many of these pickup driving, seed cap wearing, Flag waving Americans that are on FARM SUBSIDIZED "WELFARE" to the tune of BILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR, and they personally are getting hundreds of thousands of dollars EACH a year.

Actually, blacks are about 13% of the population,  but, they make up about 50% of the convicted murderers in the US.

I hear self hating whites rant about how most on welfare are whites. Really?  Can you tell me where this is so?   California has 1/12 of the US population, but 33% of welfare cases.   If  you think the majority of these are white, go to any public office. hospital,  or any criminal court in the state and you will find a tidal wave of brown and black skinned people. You can count the whites on the fingers of your hands.  I watched debtor's exam proceedings  in bankruptcy court here in LA  last year and it was overwhelmingly Hispanic with a  smattering of Russians, Japs and Middle Easterners.  Out of 50 cases on calendar, half a dozen were white Americans. There were interpreters in Spanish, Japanese and Russian.  People come here and learn to go bankrupt  without even bothering to learn English.  All major American cities are the same:  American cities with almost no Americans.  

Today it's in the news that Mexican drug cartels are taking over Yosemite National Park for marijuana cultivation. It is no longer safe for Americans to go there.   Do you think that's  a good thing because they're not white and they're not getting farm subsidies [as far as we know]?
 
I simply do not understand self hating whites and America hating Americans.  You rant and rave about white farmers getting subsidies.  Do you really think you will be better off when  white farmers are exterminated and the  Black and Hispanic crime cartels take their land like in Zimbabwe or Haiti, use it to cultivate drugs and  own and control everything like in Haiti or in Mexico?  

[guzzijohn]

Guess I will need to bow my head in shame as part of this welfare scam. I sharecrop the farm land that I own. This last year I received around $1,200 in government payments on about $12,000 net income.
GuzziJohn

[billy_56081]

If agricultue were to go bankrupt and the feilds went fallow America would soon end. Agriculture is one of two non parasitic industries in America. Can someone name the other non parasitic indutries? It is upon these two industries that ALL other industries rely upon. 

[Dee]

Entitlements are entitlements. One group deserves more over the other? Ridiculous. I have heard the farmer for years say "don't complain with your mouth full". They claim as many UNDEDUCATED IN THE SCEME OF THINGS DO, TO BE "IRREPLACEABLE", and are "IT" in feeding America.
FACT! EVERYTHING! YES, EVERYTHING! Except the dirt the crop is planted in is transported by TRUCK to the farmer. From the seed to the fertilizer, and from the tractor to the plow, comes by truck. Who needs who here? The trucking industry gets no such subsidies, and they either make it, or don't make it. Where is their welfare? Don't tell me they do, because that's a business I know a lot about, and they don't. Only FARMERS get this kind of welfare.
Since when is it up to the taxpayer to SUBSIDIZE THE FARMER WITH with WELFARE? Folks raise hell about the UNIONS, me included but, THEY WANT TO PICK AND CHOSE THEIR WELFARE RECIPIENTS which is ridiculously hypocritically, LIBERAL.
Let those banks fail, let those unions fail, let Wall Street fail, let those car companies fail, hell! Let those trucking companies fail! BUT SAVE THE FARMER. Farm subsidies ARE PARASSITICAL!

[powderman]

If agricultue were to go bankrupt and the feilds went fallow America would soon end. Agriculture is one of two non parasitic industries in America. Can someone name the other non parasitic indutries? It is upon these two industries that ALL other industries rely upon.  

BILLY. YEP, oughta let the farmers go bankrupt, after all, they only FEED the world. We don't need them. Let em lose their equipment. Whens the last time some of you priced a new tractor?? Combine?? Corn picker??? Plow or disc??? How about a silo or grain bin?? Or the gas to dry the product for sale???  Yes there are still some who use them. I'm sick of the belly achers who have never raised a stalk of corn or even grown a tomatoe. Takes a lot of work to feed the world. Can't stand whiners. I'll let one of them answer your question, there seems to be plenty here.  POWDERMAN.  

[Dee]

If agricultue were to go bankrupt and the feilds went fallow America would soon end. Agriculture is one of two non parasitic industries in America. Can someone name the other non parasitic indutries? It is upon these two industries that ALL other industries rely upon.  

BILLY. YEP, oughta let the farmers go bankrupt, after all, they only FEED the world. We don't need them. Let em lose their equipment. Whens the last time some of you priced a new tractor?? Combine?? Corn picker??? Plow or disc??? How about a silo or grain bin?? Or the gas to dry the product for sale???  Yes there are still some who use them. I'm sick of the belly achers who have never raised a stalk of corn or even grown a tomatoe. Takes a lot of work to feed the world. Can't stand whiners. I'll let one of them answer your question, there seems to be plenty here.  POWDERMAN.  

I'm sure you learned a lot about farmin while stockin shelves at Walmart.

[gypsyman]

Farming is a business. And, might be wrong, but once the land is paid for, other than property tax, it doesn't go bad. Machinery can get old and break down, but the dirt is always there. And, if a piece of machinery is bought, can be wrote off on tax's after so many years. Not to many farmers around here taking govt. money. Many work a second or even third job, as they do have time on their hands in between planting and harvesting. Most have crop insurance, so if they have a bad year, insurance kicks in. My relative's out in Idaho, when I was out there years ago, refused any kind of hand out. Always said that if they couldn't make it on their own, get into another line of work.
I'm sure, that if truth be known, most of the entitlements for farming, actually goes to big farm corporations,Con-Agra and the like. gypsyman

[Dee]

Farming is a business. And, might be wrong, but once the land is paid for, other than property tax, it doesn't go bad. Machinery can get old and break down, but the dirt is always there. And, if a piece of machinery is bought, can be wrote off on tax's after so many years. Not to many farmers around here taking govt. money. Many work a second or even third job, as they do have time on their hands in between planting and harvesting. Most have crop insurance, so if they have a bad year, insurance kicks in. My relative's out in Idaho, when I was out there years ago, refused any kind of hand out. Always said that if they couldn't make it on their own, get into another line of work.
I'm sure, that if truth be known, most of the entitlements for farming, actually goes to big farm corporations,Con-Agra and the like. gypsyman

Well gypsyman, you are sure of something you need to check into. I know these farmers, and have for years. They sit in the pues in the church I grew up in, at the cafe tables I drink coffee at, and at the dinner table where I eat thanksgiving turkey. You need to educate yourself, rather than assume. The information is public record, and ignorance is no excuse anymore. While your assuming what YOU THINK IS GOING ON, our country is going down the drain with BILLIONS in farm entitlements, and other give aways. It seems that sticking ones head in the sand is popular to these facts. No offense but read. The information is there. It is truly amazing that folks can show such disdain for all the bailouts going on, and be so indignant to the government, while at the same time CHOOSE certain entitlements and justify them. How odd, while all the while, claiming conservatism.
Few farmers today actually own the land. THEY LEASE IT! Guess what? Many times the ENTITLEMENTS pay for the lease, along with government crop subsidies. Wake up and smell the coffee. As I said this is all PUBLIC RECORD.

And yes, farming is a business. Just like trucking,carpentry, brick masonry, and other businesses. None of which get GOVERNMENT WELFARE. Just the farmers. 

[billy_56081]

I'm still waiting on an answer on the other buisiness in America that is not parasitic. Answer anyone? ALL other buisinesses in America are parasites upon these two.


An BTW Danny I happen to live in the bread basket an a large percentage of the farmers OWN the land they farm. So do you know the other inustry in America that is not parasitic? I doubt it.

[MGMorden]

Farming is a business. And, might be wrong, but once the land is paid for, other than property tax, it doesn't go bad.

One important note there (as property tax is one thing I know a bit a bout - at least property tax laws in SC .  I admin the appraisal computer systems that generate taxable values in my county) - Agricultural land is taxed FAR lower than market value.  I'm not at work at the moment so I can't quote the exact numbers (I can tomorrow morning), but timber/crop land depending on grade (we have 7 grades of each) is valued at no more than a few hundred dollars per acre (heck I'm not sure but I think the lowest grades may dip under $100 an acre).  Here, it's also typically assessed at a 4% rate even when no residence is present (normally only residences - and only land up to 5 acres - gets 4%.  Everything else is 6%.  Ag property is 6% only if owned by a corporation). 

The property taxes on ag-use parcels are a pittance compared to what everyone else pays.  Not to mention that since timber is counted as agricultural in addition to crop, as long as you're letting some loggers come in every now and then you can claim ag-use on plain old forested land and you're really not even doing anything with.

[Matt]

I'm still waiting on an answer on the other buisiness in America that is not parasitic. Answer anyone?

Well by definition ALL PROFITABLE for PROFIT Businesses are parasitic in nature as they depend on the money of the customer to survive... Also ALL Not for Profit Businesses are parasitic as they depend on the money and time of those donating it...

So next question...

Matt

[wareagleguy]

Dee,
I am a farmer and know MANY more.  These things you are saying is total BS.  If you know this is going on the REPORT THEM!  This is breaking the law.  I own a poultry farm and in debt to my eyeballs as is most poultry farmers.  There is no big government payouts to farmers.  I did get on grant to build a litter shed.  To give you an idea how this "RICH" farmer is making it, if it not for the $17,000 I got I would have been out of business.  This was a requirement the government made the farmers do.  At least the government sould have helped pay for it.  Other than getting the same writeoffs on taxes as other businesses we "rich" farmers get nothing.

[lgm270]

I'm kind of amazed that people would equate subsidized farmers with Negro polygamists who has 20 kids with 11 women, or 7  kids with 4 women like Barak Obama's  African father.  At least Obama Sr. had  most of his kids in Africa  to be supported by other Africans after he deserted them and their mothers.

A common characteristic of  violent criminal convicts is having grown up without a father.  Fatherless boys are recruits for street gangs and drug cartels.   How much time do you think the first guy is going to spend with his 20 kids to whom he contributes absolutely no support? Obama's autobiography confirms that his own African father spent no time with him as a child.

Non-white  polygamy is more common than you might think.  I worked with a lawyer friend who represented an illegal alien Mexican burglar who had 6 children with three different women, (all on welfare)  in addition to his wife.  That's 9 people living at the expense of American tax payers while their Mexican  burglar father rips off Gringos at night and lives high on the hog during the day time.  He plunked down $8,000 in cash for private defense counsel.  He had three different ID's and social security numbers. I wonder how many of you  self hating whites and America hating Americans who post here have an extra $8,000.00 lying around to pay for a private lawyer when you get busted stealing?

We also had a case with a "Pacific Islander" defendant who had 10 kids with 6 different women.  All  were  on welfare.  He was a drug person who  also coughed up a hefty cash retainer for private defense counsel.  These non-white polygamists can fork up thousands for private defense counsel, but not one penny for supporting their own kids.  Think about that the next time you equate  farmers with these parasites who produce more drug dealing, car stealing, murdering offspring to destroy our cities.

Another  lawyer who does criminal defense full time told me that all of these Hispanic and Negro jail inmates have kids out there, whether they're married or not.   The unsupervised off spring of these non-white polygamists provide the recruits for black and Hispanic drug cartels and  gangs.   Then the liberals use their crimes to justify more gun control laws to disarm YOU, while voting for more welfare for the offspring of the offspring who fathered them in the first place.      

Farm subsidies may not be perfect, but farmers produce food, not armed robbers, drug dealers and murderers like Negro and Hispanic polygamists.  
  
 

  

[gypsyman]

Must be a different breed of farmers down in Texas.I know about half a dozen farmers here in Ohio. All family farms, most own about 200 acre's or so, and lease about 200 to 600 more. None of them are on the govt dole. They might have gotten unemployment from a second job. I did look up what farms here in Ohio get entitlements. Closest one is about 80 miles away. Could be, becasue of the layout of the land, very few family's make their entire income from the farm. Most have second jobs, truck drivers, carpenters, some work at manufacturing plants. Wish I did have time to spare to look all that information up Dee. But, sometime's I want my blood pressure to go down, and just reading the daily news and watching what's happening in DC, it stays up. I can bitch,yell and scream, but sometimes the best thing to do is get away from it. Think I'll go sit at the reloading bench. gypsyman

[243shooter]

me and my dad bought grandpa's farm, my dad farms while me and the wife go to work everyday to try and hold onto it. we've never took any money from the government, but these subsity payments are what keep a lot of farmers going and thats the reason you can go to the store and buy a $0.89 loaf of bread or a $0.39 can of vegetables or any other basic food so cheap. the government wastes a lot of money, but this isn't the worst way.

[billy_56081]

Agriculture and mining/minerals are the only non parasitic industies in the world. Without them all other induties would cease to exist. Everything is either made form the products they produce or caters to the wants and whims of these industries. The further away from these 2 basic industries we go the poorer our economy will become.

[243shooter]

that is EXACTLY right.
another point, if the government stops these payments, which would be fine with me, the market would figure itself out. the weaker farmers would go out of business and the few that were left would be better of in the end, prices would go up, for the farmer and everyone that goes to the grocery store, then everybody could get on here and complain about food prices.

[Clodhopper]

Checked the link above and discovered that 91% of all farmers and ranchers in California do not collect any subsidy from the government.  However, a farmers life is tough with long hours and little to show for it.  And what would we eat if they decided to quit?  An agriculture business can claim a loss for 5 out of 7 years while other businesses can claim only 3 out of 5 if that tells you anything.

Also, why does someone get labeled a "self hating white person and an America hating American" just for stating some facts and having a different opinion than others???  I do believe that I can see the hate beginning to come out and it's not coming from here!

[Dee]

Dee,
I am a farmer and know MANY more.  These things you are saying is total BS.  If you know this is going on the REPORT THEM!  This is breaking the law.  I own a poultry farm and in debt to my eyeballs as is most poultry farmers.  There is no big government payouts to farmers.  I did get on grant to build a litter shed.  To give you an idea how this "RICH" farmer is making it, if it not for the $17,000 I got I would have been out of business.  This was a requirement the government made the farmers do.  At least the government sould have helped pay for it.  Other than getting the same writeoffs on taxes as other businesses we "rich" farmers get nothing.

wareagleguy, what I am saying is not BS, it's PUBLIC RECORD. If you can't read it, that explains why your in the tank on you farming operation, or poor management one. I gave the site, and how to get there. That you don't like the information is of no consequence to me. Any one whom wants to know has only to look. I gave a source of unbiased PROOF,and you gave a sob story. Dismiss the facts if you want to. Makes me no difference.

[powderman]

IGM. Good post, I agree. POWDERMAN.