What if they ban assult weapons?

[DalesCarpentry]

I would like to own an AR 15 some day in the near future. I guess it is the lower the ATF considers a firearm because that is the part that needs to go through an FFL. If I were to buy a stripped lower would we still be able to buy the parts to make it work if they ban assult weapons? I have found stripped lowers for $100.00 and would like to buy at least 2 of them for future builds. Would you be able to buy uppers and all other parts for them after the ban? If they do ban them and I own one would I be able to sell it because it was bought before the ban? If the current prez does ban them will there be any warning about it or could it be snuck in there and voted on without any warning at all? Sorry for all the questions but I really would like one some day and the lowers are cheap enough to pick up a couple for a later date to put together. Thanks Dale

[torpedoman]

then they will ban those assault pumps ,then assault lever actions, then assault single shots, then assault muzzle loaders.

[Swampman]

I sold all my semi-autos because I didn't want to loose the $20,000.00 I had invested.

[Oldshooter]

I dont figger "if", I'd say its a when Question! 

[Graybeard]

The question is not what IF they ban but what are you gonna do WHEN they ban it all? If you've not yet decided you're a day late and a dollar short.

[Stan in SC]

So what do you do?Sit and moan and wait for it to happen.HECK NO!!!Use YOUR VOTE to make this the kind of government you want.We are becoming sheeple waiting for the people who mean to CHANGE our country take  away our freedoms.VOTE!!!

Stan in SC

[Graybeard]

That sounds like a good plan as far as it goes Stan. The question is just who the heck is it we are gonna vote for that's gonna do a better job. Dee is right on at least one part of his comments regarding the "lessor of two evils" and that is both parties are evil and rotten to the core.

Oh there are some politicians who do I think still have some concern for our best interest but both major parties are under the control of the same super rich cabal of internationalists who could care less for this country or whether we continue as a country or not.

So voting for a republican to get rid of the current democrap or vice versa isn't gonna change one single thing other than the names of the folks doing it to us. We need a complete flush of the folks in charge and that just ain't happening via the ballot box and quite frankly I don't see it happening any other way either at least not in the life time of anyone living today.

We need an alternative party or parties to vote for and that must begin at the local level and will likely take generations to make happen if it happens at all. Sadly the folks we need to elect to set about this change won't be on the ballot for any of us to vote for this next round of elections and I don't think they will be in any election cycle in my life time.

It will take a shooting war another of those sorta "us against them" types we had twice now in the history of this nation to make a significant change and frankly I don't see that happening in my life time either. Even if it does the outcome might or might not go as some of us feel would be the best. Don't forget it's the winners who get to write or to rewrite history. I wish I could see a good outcome looming but don't. Maybe it's just the pessimist in me coming out but the only changes I see ahead are those that finish the process of bringing our country down.

[coyotejoe]

Sad to say Greybeard, I have to agree. Lots of people are waiting for the revolution that will never come. When the events at Waco didn't spark more than a very feeble protest I knew it was too late. That was a twentieth century version of the battle of Lexington except nothing followed. I circulated a petition requesting an investigation into the actions of the BATF in that affair. Nearly everyone agreed we weren't being told the truth but most were afraid to even put their names on a piece of paper. The government already knows everything about every detail of your life. They know where you shop and what you buy. They know your income, what property you own and how much you have in savings. They know I visit this web site. They know who I email. They could arrest me on a trumped up charge or even no charge at all any time they want because they know I don't have the money or resources to fight them. Neither do you.
 The movie "America, Freedom to Fascism", is an eye opener even for those who think their eyes are open.
What is an "assault weapon"? It's whatever the government says it is. What is the law? Same answer.

[45-70.gov]

it  not  if    but  WHEN

and  how .......no telling how they will   word the ban
in  kalifornia  and  Hawaii  they   JUST  had you register  them  a few years  prior
with  my striker 12  they just were reclasified as a destructive device

simple  answer
just  buy  a complete gun.........now[prices are down  after  the ''oboma run'' on then]

even   if it means  giving  up cigarettes for the money
plus you will live longer and get to shoot it  longer

[1911crazy]

Our votes don't matter anyhoo.  Its the college electorial votes that matter.  Were the vegimite.


Those who beat there guns into plow shares will plow for those who have guns.

Has anyone watched Jerico yet,  yup its kind of far fetched but what if???

You have one more option to bury them in PVC pipe??? Ammo too....

I have no clue as to what to do but the foundations this country was built upon will feel the ground crumble when they take our guns away.  Its the UN and the european union who wants the US disarmed.

Its very sad my guns have never killed anyone nor will they ever hurt anyone.

I may weld up the bores and keep them when they come to get them.  Dam i need to find another hobby.  I just hope its past my lifetime when they come for them.  I'd like to take one swede mauser with me when i pass on, one that still shoots.

[Mikey]

If they ban assault weapons, we ban them.  If they come to collect our guns we collect them and their guns.  If they come from the local police stations, we send them back without their guns and vehicles.  When they come to get us we make sure we either get them or go get them before they get us. 

If you decide to stop the local pd/sheriff or guard unit when they come to collect what they want you to kick over without a fight, then they are going to realize with the very first encounter that they will have to fight for each and every single stinking gun and they will simply never be prepared for this and I believe you will find more and more elected not willing to enforce any ban.

Waco is/was a bad example - it was a cloistered religious community that not even the rest of the texans gave a squat about.  If there was ever a cause for the 'by god' militia to take on the feds it was that one but nope, not one militia from anywhere in texas came to support the Branch Dividians and as a result the fbi was able to murder and immolate 80 women and children.  That entire murderous fiasco could have been brought to a rapid haltSo, if you don't want that to happen again then you take the fight to them before they get the chance to mass up and murder you and that's just my two cents worth.

[mrbgt]

All parts should still be available ,if it happens , lets hope it never gets to that !! Pick up them recievers ,&100 is a good deal

[cbxboy]

I personally DO NOT OWN any Assault weapons     I may have a few semi auto collector items.....I only skimmed this post but overall my answer is same as many of us......collect WHAT?  I don't have any.  Search me.  I don't HAVE any. 

As someone pointed out if you haven't "figgered" you rplan, you need to take in a huge breath of oxygen and ask "what should I do?"

[1911crazy]

I personally DO NOT OWN any Assault weapons     I may have a few semi auto collector items.....I only skimmed this post but overall my answer is same as many of us......collect WHAT?  I don't have any.  Search me.  I don't HAVE any.  

As someone pointed out if you haven't "figgered" you rplan, you need to take in a huge breath of oxygen and ask "what should I do?"

Lets hope washington keeps really busy with all the politician BS and they forget about guns for a few years.

Are you buying any spare parts for your surplus guns right now???  Like springs, extractors and firing pins?  With the threat of being invaded in the south west by mexicans/terrorists our country may need us.  Our goverment predicted this happening in the future.

[STUMPJMPR]

I own one sks.  I only bought it because I got it for $89 with a c&r.  They won't outright ban them.  They would have a war on their hands.  A large portion of the American population owns guns.  They are going to go about it just like they are now.  Ammo hard to find.  Ammo extremely expensive.  Tax the hell out of it.  That is how they will win the battle.

[coyotejoe]

I don't believe there is any great conspiracy to make guns and ammo scarce. That is the result of panic buying and hoarding and is starting to improve greatly now that most people have acquired what they feel they need. The hoarding has also driven up prices along with the declining value of the dollar. Guns and ammo are becoming more available every day but don't hold your breath waiting for prices to drop.
  Yes, there will be bans, starting with anything they can possible hang the "assault" tag onto and NO, there will NOT be a war over it. Have you already forgotten that the Clinton gun ban expired only a couple of years ago?  It will be reinstated with even more restrictions and that will be just the first step in an ever increasing incremental approach. The most we can do is fight a delaying action and that is slow but sure defeat.

[S.S.]

Damn Mikey! I like the way you think!
And I agree. I am not a roll over and take it kind
of man. There are still German Automatic weapons hidden
all over France from WWII. If those lttle French fellas have the
stones to keep them hidden, why not us! I can assure you that
if the Obama storm troopers or U.N. Blue Hats start any confiscation efforts
in any of the surrounding counties where I live, There will be a lot of folks
around here in possession of their equipment really quickly. They are so fed up with
Government right now that a small spark is going to cause an inferno.
I sincerely believe it would start another Civil War.

[hillbill]

they will pick yu one nit at a time, first the high cap mags will go, then the ammo, then the guns.any assault weapons or parts yu own will will worth twice what yu gave on the black market.thats where ill be seliing mine.

[mcwoodduck]

I personally DO NOT OWN any Assault weapons     I may have a few semi auto collector items.....I only skimmed this post but overall my answer is same as many of us......collect WHAT?  I don't have any.  Search me.  I don't HAVE any. 

As someone pointed out if you haven't "figgered" you rplan, you need to take in a huge breath of oxygen and ask "what should I do?"

You have not read their definitions of Assault Rifle.
We know an assault rifle is anything that goes Squirt.
The anti gun people call anything semi auto an assault rifle, if it is balck (bolt action tactical or "sniper rifles" actually anything with a scope has been refered to as a "sniper rifle" Even pellet rifles.), or if it looks scarry, to them.
And what you have may be just a bayonett lug away from being an assault rifle here in Cali-taxu-illegal (sorry undocumented immagrant)-fornia.
If you change an SKS and add, even before the ban, either an extended fixed mag or the detachible mag set up it is a felony here.

[1marty]

I wrote my congressman about 2 years ago not to vote for an antigun measure. He wrote back he was voting for it since he had small children and wanted them to grow up safe in a gunless society. What can you say!

[Oldshooter]

I wrote my congressman about 2 years ago not to vote for an antigun measure. He wrote back he was voting for it since he had small children and wanted them to grow up safe in a gunless society. What can you say!

You could and can say that you wont support him! In fact I would say "I'll be supporting your opponent". We just need to weed em out!

[45-70.gov]

I wrote my congressman about 2 years ago not to vote for an antigun measure. He wrote back he was voting for it since he had small children and wanted them to grow up safe in a gunless society. What can you say!

indian  children had a gunless  society
so  did  jewish  children

until  some one  other than their  parrents introduced them to guns

[45-70.gov]

Damn Mikey! I like the way you think!
And I agree. I am not a roll over and take it kind
of man. There are still German Automatic weapons hidden
all over France from WWII. If those lttle French fellas have the
stones to keep them hidden, why not us! I can assure you that
if the Obama storm troopers or U.N. Blue Hats start any confiscation efforts
in any of the surrounding counties where I live, There will be a lot of folks
around here in possession of their equipment really quickly. They are so fed up with
Government right now that a small spark is going to cause an inferno.
I sincerely believe it would start another Civil War.

they  don't care if  you bury  them

saves them the trouble  of taking them

either  way  .....you loose....they win

[torpedoman]

If they come for your guns and you bury them just when will you dig them up? They are taking your means of defense and offence and you are denying that you have them. Your friends and neighbors are either giving theirs up or burring them, If you pass that time to act you are done and your guns will lay in the ground until you join them., Act then and there or become a helpless sheep to be led to slaughter when and were it suits them (read your history)  Just one old mans opinion you are free to have your and do as you please when the time comes but you had best have your mind made up and be ready to be on one side or the other .  If they come for my guns please feel free to come over and pick up the empty brass.

[Oldshooter]

Well Said T'man!

[45-70.gov]

I  HEAR  TOUGH TALK

during  the clinton  gun ban  i  heard  of  NO  tough  action

next  time  i dont think the law will  sunset

but  they will  grandfather in the  old  guns  like before

that  way  no one  will  protest  tooooo  much  and nothing will  happen again

then  the grand fathered in  guns  must be registered

then  restrictions  on  transfers

just  like they  phazed  out  the  full auto  guns

they are still  available,,,,,,expensive and hard to find.......i got  mine  in 1986...cheap

there is  no new gun  law that  is acceptable

after  the assault rifles are  banned  they will want  your handi rifle

[1911crazy]

I guess we will all be sheep in the end if they come for our guns.  Once they get our guns our swords and knives will be next?

[mcwoodduck]

I guess we will all be sheep in the end if they come for our guns.  Once they get our guns our swords and knives will be next?

Just after I recieved my CCW in Va i wrote a letter to Sarah Brady and challanged her.
Said I would give up my handgun and my CCW if:
She would give up all knives in her house and take public transprotation.  She would have to rely on someone else to do a daily task and she had to use the same mass transit system she and the other libs want everyone to use.
All I recieved ack was a form letter thanking me for my support.

[SHOOTALL]

Lets cut the BS , The english tried to take our fore fathers weapons back in the 1770's . Thats a long time ago , question is how many are willing to keep with tradition ? An old gunsmith i knew once said when the shooting starts we will then see if its more that want to keep um or take um.

[mcwoodduck]

Lets cut the BS , The english tried to take our fore fathers weapons back in the 1770's . Thats a long time ago , question is how many are willing to keep with tradition ? An old gunsmith i knew once said when the shooting starts we will then see if its more that want to keep um or take um.

A friend of mine is a cop on a swat team.
He said as well as others that if or when there is a confiscation of fire arms they will not serve the warrants.