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Lets see all the personal opinions on the other semi-auto battle rifles.  The likes and dislikes, the pro's and con's, what ever good or bad lets hear it.  Post the country of origin/make, the model and the caliber.  If you want to add more feel free to.
Here's a few to think about and start off with;

French MAS 49/56 Commando Rifle:
 In 7,62 nato or in 7,5mm french(.308").

FN49:
The  30-06 Luxemborg,  7mm venesulan(7x57 mauser), 8mm egyptian(8x57 mauser),  308 argentine navy and the rare 7,65x53 argentine.

SKS;
Russian,  Romanian,  Yugo,  Albanian and the Chinese in 7,62x39 russian.

Czech;
VZ52 in 7,62x45 czech / VZ58 in 7,62x39

Spanish Cetme;
In 308

M1 Garand;
30-06 springfield

M1 Carbine;
In 30 carbine

Russian SVT-40 Tokarev;
In 7,62x54r

Egyptian hakim:
In 8mm mauser

Egyptian Rasheed;
In 7,62x39

Swedish Lungman;
In 6,5mm x 55mm swede

AK47;
In 7,62x39 russian

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Re: Surplus Military semi-auto battle rifles (lets have some fun)
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2010, 04:52:10 AM »
The only ones on your list I have any experience would be the M1 Carbine, Chinese SKS and AK-47. Love the carbine, light, short and handles like a sporting rifle. Had no use for the SKS, too long, heavy and inaccurate. The AK was even worse.
 I have one I could add to your list, the Romanian PSL. I'm rather disappointed in mine. It certainly is not a sniper rifle. The accuracy is OK for a 200 yard hunting rifle but it is too long and heavy for that, at least to me.
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Re: Surplus Military semi-auto battle rifles (lets have some fun)
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2010, 05:16:43 AM »
I have a long and short barreled sks.  They are fun to shoot, and easy to work on and clean. 

I have had an MAC 90 AK, didn't like it, sold it.  Wasn't accurate at all, and didn't like the safety.

Had an M1 Garand, liked it but it was heavy to lug around all day in the woods.  Sold it but wish I had it back.  Shot without hardly a kick.

Have a Russian 7.62x54 bolt carbine made in 1947.  I've had 3-4 of these and kept this one, shoots very accurate about 1" or so with good ammo at 100 yards. 

Have had a yugo 8mm that I sold, but wish I had it back also.

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Re: Surplus Military semi-auto battle rifles (lets have some fun)
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2010, 06:55:58 AM »
I fired an FN49 in 7mm that was well made and accurate.

Wish I could find one in 30/06.

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Re: Surplus Military semi-auto battle rifles (lets have some fun)
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2010, 01:54:29 PM »
How about the G43?  I bought one about four years ago for $375.  Little did I know what a deal I got.

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Re: Surplus Military semi-auto battle rifles (lets have some fun)
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2010, 02:51:00 PM »
cetme good for laying down a field of fire not very accurate

30 cal carbine fun gun fairly accurate a bit under powered

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Re: Surplus Military semi-auto battle rifles (lets have some fun)
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2010, 05:40:28 PM »
Lets see all the personal opinions on the other semi-auto battle rifles.  The likes and dislikes, the pro's and con's, what ever good or bad lets hear it.  Post the country of origin/make, the model and the caliber.  If you want to add more feel free to.
Here's a few to think about and start off with;

French MAS 49/56 Commando Rifle:
 In 7,62 nato or in 7,5mm french(.308").

Never considered one.

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FN49:
The  30-06 Luxemborg,  7mm venesulan(7x57 mauser), 8mm egyptian(8x57 mauser),  308 argentine navy and the rare 7,65x53 argentine.

Never had a chance to shoot one, but I'd love to pick one up in 7x57 or 8x57 (or both).

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SKS;
Russian,  Romanian,  Yugo,  Albanian and the Chinese in 7,62x39 russian.

Shot a Chinese.  Neat little gun.  Wanted a Yugo or other surplus, but procrastinated, so the supply has thinned considerably.

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Czech;
VZ52 in 7,62x45 czech / VZ58 in 7,62x39

Wanted a VZ52 but couldn't bring myself to buy one because I had no idea where to get ammo for one.  Now I know a guy that has a bunch of ammo for one and can't find the guns to feed it to even if I could afford to buy one right now.

I've batted around the idea of a VZ58, but it looks like the ones being imported right now include the magazine in 922(r) parts count, and I'd rather be able to use any magazine without having to worry about the BATFEces.

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Spanish Cetme;
In 308

Aside from all of the problems listed over in the CETME thread on this same board, I just don't like the ergonomics.  They're a good gun if you get one that the angry monkeys at Century put together right, or that someone took the time to make right.

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M1 Garand;
30-06 springfield

Bought a Springfield made in 42 (by the serial number) from my best friend's dad several years ago for $500.  The bore was pitted, but the rifling was strong.  Shot some Korean surplus through it, evidently didn't clean the chamber well enough, because now it's rusted and sticks cases.  Been trying to polish the chamber out, but that's hard to do with the barrel in the action.  May resort to taking it to a gunsmith so I can get it shootable again.

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M1 Carbine;
In 30 carbine

Have a Universal I bought used for $325 a few years ago.  It was fun to shoot even though it didn't quite run right.  Finally got it running right after I replaced the recoil springs and the springs in my old GI 15 round magazines.  Then the gas piston welded itself into the gas block.  Got the piston out and polished it in the tumbler.  Having to work on the gas block by hand.  I think I can make it run again.

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Russian SVT-40 Tokarev;
In 7,62x54r

Got to shoot one that someone brought to the range one day.  It's an interesting gun and I'd like to have one of my own.  The ergonomics could be better, though.

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Egyptian hakim:
In 8mm mauser

Lusted after one of these as a substitute for an FN49.  Never bought one (kick myself for passing over a few at the shows in the past, though).

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Egyptian Rasheed;
In 7,62x39

Swedish Lungman;
In 6,5mm x 55mm swede

No experience, never even thought about them.

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AK47;
In 7,62x39 russian

Shot a few.  Don't like the slant brakes a lot of them come with.  They're much better with a 74 style brake.

I notice you don't mention the AK-74, which is basically an AK-47, but in 5.45x39.  I've shot one of these, too, and it's way cooler than the 47.  Less recoil than a .223/5.56x45mm chambered gun, super fun to shoot, and surplus ammo is dirt cheap.

I also see no mention of the FN FAL, of which I have 2.  One is an STG-58 built on an Entreprise Type 3 receiver, complete with bipod.  It needs some serious elevation adjustments since it will take the 500 meter rams with the rear sight on the 200 meter setting (and lemme tell you, hitting anything closer than the rams is a bit of work).  The other is a lightweight I built off an Imbel kit and an Entreprise Type 1 receiver.  I do miss the days when I could buy surplus 7.62x51mm ammo for them for $150/1000.  I've given some thought to building one in another caliber, like .243 Winchester, .260 Remington, or 7mm-08, but I haven't quite convinced myself to make it happen yet.

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Re: Surplus Military semi-auto battle rifles (lets have some fun)
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2010, 09:51:31 AM »
Lets see all the personal opinions on the other semi-auto battle rifles.  The likes and dislikes, the pro's and con's, what ever good or bad lets hear it.  Post the country of origin/make, the model and the caliber.  If you want to add more feel free to.
Here's a few to think about and start off with;

I'll rate them by " * " stars.

French MAS 49/56 Commando Rifle:
 In 7,62 nato or in 7,5mm french(.308").

These little rifles are a hoot to shoot in both calibers. Another ***** rifle

FN49:
The  30-06 Luxemborg,  7mm venesulan(7x57 mauser), 8mm egyptian(8x57 mauser),  308 argentine navy and the rare 7,65x53 argentine.

These i'm not sure about them yet i haven't shot them. But sometimes there cheap but some have been thru the roof in prices too.  Another ***** rifle

SKS;
Russian,  Romanian,  Yugo,  Albanian and the Chinese in 7,62x39 russian.

The little chinese paratrooper is very accurate.  I think all the chinese sks's seem to be pretty accurate. Another ***** rifle. I think any sks will serve you well.

Czech;
VZ52 in 7,62x45 czech / VZ58 in 7,62x39

I picked up a VZ52 with a case of ammo but never shot it yet do to ammo availability.  Rating *** because of the ammo availibility.  The VZ58 is way over priced too.

Spanish Cetme;
In 308

It has the recoil of a ruger 10/22.  Some of these century conversions were ok and some were bad. Another ***** rifle.

M1 Garand;
30-06 springfield

I just never liked the price nor the funky clip. It was a great war weapon.  Another ***** rating

M1 Carbine;
In 30 carbine

Don't own one and never shot one due to there over pricing. Another ***** rating

Russian SVT-40 Tokarev;
In 7,62x54r

This one reminds me of an sks with a stretch. Its also a good accurate shooter too.  Another ***** rifle

Egyptian hakim:
In 8mm mauser

What more can I say this one really barks but its one of the cheaper semi auto's in 8mm mauser.  Another ***** rifle

Egyptian Rasheed;
In 7,62x39

This one is suppose to be the cadillac of the semi auto rifles in 7,62x39. Another ***** rifle  Its swedish designed too.

Swedish Lungman;
In 6,5mm x 55mm swede

Being swedish manufactured and designed its suppose to be another great shooting rifle in 6,5mm swede.  Another ***** rifle

AK47;
In 7,62x39 russian

I don't really own one but there suppose to be great rifles.  They have been proven in battle too. Some of the century reworks give them a black eye for reliability, fit and finish.  Another ***** rating.  The availability of the brand new russian izhmash saiga surely has showed us how really accurate these can be. Plus there so dam affordable too.