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Why people can't grasp this I don't understand!!!!
« on: March 07, 2010, 03:38:14 PM »
Why is it that when we say something negative about the government or heaven forbid want answers on certain subjects we are labeled as dissidents or conspiracy nuts?  It is not only our right, but our DUTY to question our government, speak out for injustices, and remove a destructive government.  Why is it that our patriotism is questioned when we speak out against government action limiting our GOD GIVEN rights?  If one didn't truly love and respect his/her country why would they take the time to let their voices be heard on the direction it is headed?  This post is in no way directed at any particular member on this sight.  I am just sick of the media and the thought that disagreeing with your government makes you a fear monger, crazy lune, terror suspect, or any other word to discredit ones character.  I know the Declaration of Independence is a long read for some, but this is in the second paragraph!

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government"


Last time I checked WE are the PEOPLE, so is it not my RIGHT to question the destruction taking place in Washington today?

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Re: Why people can't grasp this I don't understand!!!!
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2010, 04:11:46 PM »
I feel as you do Heather. There is the ruling elite, their useful idiots and us. If you are not in the first two catagories you are worse than pond scum. All you have to do to see this in microcosim is see Bill Maher on his show or when he is being interviewed by someone. Problem is, and he doesn't know this, he is one of the useful idiots of the progressives. Lenin refered to people like him as that. Keep hoping and praying that we can take our country back. You can get all the free speech in here that you want because you are amongst friends. Take care. Steve

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Re: Why people can't grasp this I don't understand!!!!
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2010, 04:12:12 PM »
I couldn't agree with you more young lady. I feel I need more protection from my own government than any terrorist or drug lord.
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Re: Why people can't grasp this I don't understand!!!!
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2010, 04:21:16 PM »
Most people are dumber than whale crap. Thats why.
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Re: Why people can't grasp this I don't understand!!!!
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2010, 04:44:17 PM »
Heather, I agree with you.  But...I do have to say that those of us to the middle and right have not exactly been kind to those to the left when they have expressed their dissatisfaction with the government. 

Granted - too often they express it with riots and then scream that their right to free expression is trampled on when LE moves to quell the riots.
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Re: Why people can't grasp this I don't understand!!!!
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2010, 05:18:47 PM »
As noted in the Declaration, our rights are endowed by a Creator. No creator, no rights ... and it's all gone downhill from there. Will the next Declaration even acknowledge a Creator, I wonder? As has been noted, we no longer have free speech, and those who would speak for the Creator are no longer welcome.
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Re: Why people can't grasp this I don't understand!!!!
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2010, 05:01:45 AM »
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government"

Be careful who you say that around, most people will automatically assume that you are a "domestic terrorist" and are guilty of at least sedition, if not treason. It is unfortunate that one cannot hold a conversation on this topic without being called unpatriotic or people simply just tuning it out and going about their day and doing what they think the government allows them to do. It seems that most have forgotten that the government derives power from the people, not the other way around. 

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Re: Why people can't grasp this I don't understand!!!!
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2010, 05:05:41 AM »
Same reason ya hear where some group drank kool-aid and died cause some fellow told them to . Some folks can't think for themselves and get ticked off when you do.
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Re: Why people can't grasp this I don't understand!!!!
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2010, 06:06:32 AM »
Same reason ya hear where some group drank kool-aid and died cause some fellow told them to . Some folks can't think for themselves and get ticked off when you do.

Well Shootall that about sums it up doesn't it!  ;)

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Re: Why people can't grasp this I don't understand!!!!
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2010, 07:21:05 AM »
I believe many Americans have become Sheeple/Zombies, since it is much easier for them to be told how to think and act by others than to study, read, debate, and converse with people of differring view points and logically choose your own personal stance.  The process starts in the school room and progresses on with the media, government, political parties, friends, local culture, etc.  I find most people choose to be told what they should believe and they accept this as the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  It is much to hard to check out the information and process it and come to a personal conculsion.  Of course, your conculsion can or could be tainted by your own filters, ie: how you were raised, what culture you come from, political affiliations of famiily/friends, race, economic class, and etc. 

Now the internet has been held up to be the information hiway, with all kinds of ideas and thoughts.  But when you look at what much of the conversations sift out to be, you find only two diametrically opposed views and the other side is completely wacked.  I have found myself talking with many differant people and I will make the statement that as long as a person has the basic needs of life meet; food in stomache, roof over head, warm clothes on back, beer/booze, and sex.  They are happy with life and are unconcerned with whats happening in the country, with politics, their rights, etc.  A friend of mine has done the same and found that most people don't care and don't want to talk about the situations that are happening in our country because they got their's and they don't care about anything else, or they just rant out the dribble of what they have been told.  Ask them to tell you where they got this knowledge and they will tell you so and so told them! 

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Re: Why people can't grasp this I don't understand!!!!
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2010, 02:52:53 AM »
Mnswede, +1, I think most people don't care if they have what they want. eddiegjr
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