Author Topic: stuff for shtf (Read 1875 times)

BUGEYE · « **on:** March 10, 2010, 02:32:55 PM »

one thing I do is stock multi vitamins that is heavy on vitamin C in case I have to kill and eat whatever strolls by and can't get veggies real easy.

vacek · « **Reply #1 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:45:49 PM »

Well if the SHTF I will have extra time on my hands not having to go to work. More time home with the wife. So I think I will stock up on Viagra since I haven't figured out how to concoct it yet.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #2 on:** March 10, 2010, 04:47:08 PM »

Quote from: vacek on March 10, 2010, 04:45:49 PM

Well if the SHTF I will have extra time on my hands not having to go to work. More time home with the wife. So I think I will stock up on Viagra since I haven't figured out how to concoct it yet.

going to go count mine now

Oldshooter · « **Reply #3 on:** March 10, 2010, 05:02:22 PM »

Suffice to say that in a SHTF situation at my age, that part of my anatomy might be only used for evacuation of excess liquid. Dont think the OP was thinking in these terms.

Wondering what the shelf life of multi vitamins is?

Veggies will be priority for sure and those of us that grow our own now will benefit from our experience.

Couger · « **Reply #4 on:** March 10, 2010, 06:31:36 PM »

FYI ......

Vitamin C ] ...... old world sailors used to get scurvey without vit-C, when on their looooong voyages.

Bell peppers as well as oranges are an excellent source of vitamin C! I haven't YET learned how to successfully grow bell peppers, but red, yellow, and orange bell peppers are much sweeter and much less bland than green ones!

There are also hot peppers to grow as well as banana peppers or similar, the kind you might pickle, etc.

Hodr · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2010, 06:57:49 PM »

Couger
Green bell peppers turn into the other colors, just later in life cycle. Just plant Bells and wait for color you like.

blindhari

Oldshooter · « **Reply #6 on:** March 11, 2010, 01:17:53 AM »

Quote from: Couger on March 10, 2010, 06:31:36 PM

FYI ......

Vitamin C ] ...... old world sailors used to get scurvey without vit-C, when on their looooong voyages.

Bell peppers as well as oranges are an excellent source of vitamin C! I haven't YET learned how to successfully grow bell peppers, but red, yellow, and orange bell peppers are much sweeter and much less bland than green ones!

There are also hot peppers to grow as well as banana peppers or similar, the kind you might pickle, etc.

My wife has the best luck growing bell peppers in 5 gallon pots on the back porch, She plants two per pot and usually plants 5 or 6 pots and we have more bell peppers than we can shake a stick at. Now we live on the Gulf coast of Texas so we have a great growing season.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #7 on:** March 11, 2010, 01:28:24 AM »

Need to get you some survival books. Pine needles brewed in a tea, 6 ozs will give you all the vitamen C you need daily. Not very tasty, but doable. Also dandelions, greens, roots, and even the yellow flowers. Kudzu is eatable in the south like greens, as well as the roots. For viagra, if you can find some gensing root, does fairly well. Eat the livers of animals to get some vitamens. There are wild onions in my yard as well as dandelions. Also, you have to have a certain amount of fat to survive, so eat the fat in the animals with the meat.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #8 on:** March 11, 2010, 01:33:47 AM »

a good supply of vitamins is cheap insurance
don't forget the toothpaste and TP and soap and deoderant
don;t want the enemy to smell you out
with out those 4 the viagra is useless

also the SHTF will likely pass
i would hate to loose a tooth during that time

Oldshooter · « **Reply #9 on:** March 11, 2010, 01:35:46 AM »

Dixie Dude I'm refering your post to my Cardiologist, We'll see about this eating fat with the meat thing!

I'm thinking he aint thinking SHTF when he scolds me about eating sausage!

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #10 on:** March 11, 2010, 04:09:27 AM »

Too much of anything is bad. Too much sugar can lead to diabetes. Too much fat can clog your arteries. You can live without sugar, but you can't live without about 20% minimum fat in your diet. You can also burn fat for energy like carbs. Eskimos eat very little carbs and before processed foods, they had virtually no diabetes or high colestrol or high blood pressure. They had a high protein and fat diet, but a lot was fish.

vacek · « **Reply #11 on:** March 11, 2010, 04:09:54 AM »

We keep a lot of perennial Vitamin C growing on our property.....a lot of wild and domestic rose bushes (rose hips), rasberry and wild sand plumbs (we live in the foothills of N Colorado). However, we also keep a 2 year supply of vitamins. Most vitamins today will keep a large percent of their potency past the expiration date on the bottle. Especially the large (500 - 1000 mg) vitamin C. It will degrade (oxidize) to a point but there will be some ascorbic acid (the vitamin C) remaining for quite some time.

We also keep a very small orchard for pears, apples, peaches, and cherries. Although we have been unsuccessful with the cherries due to birds. I know in a bad situation I could harvest the birds with my FWB124 and save the cherries, just haven't had to do that yet....Hope I won't.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #12 on:** March 11, 2010, 04:14:13 AM »

Put a couple of rubber snakes in the cherry trees and maybe a dummy owl or hawk.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #13 on:** March 11, 2010, 04:34:40 AM »

Keep in mind spices and herbs will be a medicine chest in these times , Also they can be grown , dryed and stored for a long time .

vacek · « **Reply #14 on:** March 11, 2010, 04:37:18 AM »

Dixie Dude,

We have done that to no avail. These birds don't respect anything but lead.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #15 on:** March 11, 2010, 04:50:38 AM »

I found out that a rubber snake has to be moved around to a different location at night. The birds see it in the same place, they realise it isn't real. Moving it around helps. My grandmother put aluminum pie plates in her figs. They flopped and twirred around in the breese making reflections which helped also.

I suggest getting books on eatable and medicinal plants. Garlic is a mild antibiotic as well as lowers colestrol about 20 points. Onions also, but to a lesser degree. Greens have the most vitamens. The underside of willow bark has asprin in it.

Mnswede · « **Reply #16 on:** March 11, 2010, 12:24:40 PM »

Rose Hips; A hand full will provide vitamin C equivalent of 60 oranges.

Currant: Highest concentration of vitamin C.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #17 on:** March 12, 2010, 01:53:43 AM »

oldshooter, I'll trade you a possum for some of those bell peppers.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #18 on:** March 12, 2010, 01:58:23 AM »

Naw...............but I would consider a single shot rifle and a one eyed coon dog.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2010, 02:02:54 AM »

In that song about a single shot and one eyed dog, he mentions his brothers bill and jack.
I've also got brothers bill and jack. we grew up in the woods and attended the last one-room school in Illinois.

Couger · « **Reply #20 on:** March 12, 2010, 07:17:30 AM »

Quote from: blindhari

Green bell peppers turn into the other colors, just later in life cycle. Just plant Bells and wait for color you like.

? ? ? ?

EVERY nursury, feed store, wallyworld, home depot or lowes within 100 miles of my home sells bell pepper starts according to color.

Also I tried planting bell peppers in 6-gallon buckets, and last year in 1/2 whiskey barrels. Don't know that I had the best soil depite using tons of Miracle Grow both years.

Plus planting in that small of space still requires lots and lots of water. Maybe even twice a day.

Sometimes we have screwy "summers" that are still quite cool at night, and if your plants are too close to shadowed areas of the house, they may still NOT GET ENOUGH direct sunshine.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #21 on:** March 12, 2010, 08:33:51 AM »

I forgot to say that being pots they do not get water from the ground so watering daily is very important! OOPs!

All though some bell peppers do change colors (ours turn red if not picked). I do believe there are certain "species" that do turn the various colors

Hodr · « **Reply #22 on:** March 12, 2010, 12:40:38 PM »

Hey Couger,
Check Wikipedia for bell pepper. All colors can be produced at different times in the growing cycle from the same cultivar, or you can get color specific. At least back before I became allergic to the Bell capscium that's how I did it.

blindhari

mrbigtexan · « **Reply #23 on:** March 23, 2010, 04:42:14 PM »

Quote from: blindhari on March 12, 2010, 12:40:38 PM

Hey Couger,
Check Wikipedia for bell pepper. All colors can be produced at different times in the growing cycle from the same cultivar, or you can get color specific. At least back before I became allergic to the Bell capscium that's how I did it.

blindhari

my jalapenos turn red if left on the plant long enough also.