Will Israel Attack Europe? Israeil Historian thinks maybe so.

[SHOOTALL]

Don't know about the loan really , maybe so. But they seem to be changing attitudes about the base . It may be a cost of keeping it where it is . Don't you think Japan should foot the bill for its own protection some ?

[teamnelson]

So you admit that America is doing what Japan asked it to do in exchange for a loan.

As a member of PACFLT I can say this, we're not doing what Japan has asked. We're still in Okinawa. Japan has changed the rules again ... our uncle is tired. They want us completely out of all of Japan, and they don't want to honor their original $ commitment.

Our other Asian uncle China not only bids on our instruments, but routinely engages in multitiered strategic attacks on us at many many levels ... death by a thousand cuts. To where the lions share of our energies are expended mitigating the cuts. They have effectively made us reactive to them; they control the tempo. Uncle is not just tired, he's mad, and he wants us to conform.

They are reminding us that while we think we're peers, they don't think we're peers. Is Israel our peer? Or our nephew? Cause we don't agree with them, just like China & Japan don't agree with us.

[blind ear]

Why would Israiel blow up a country when they have as much political and banking influence an they do in Europe and the US as well as the investments they have there are militarily secure more than at home. If all thier property were natonalized they might take a different view but the banks and coorporations run the governments. eddie

[billy_56081]

Why would Israiel blow up a country when they have as much political and banking influence an they do in Europe and the US as well as the investments they have there are militarily secure more than at home. If all thier property were natonalized they might take a different view but the banks and coorporations run the governments. eddie

Eddie, these guys WANT to believe this is true. They have such deep antisemetic hatred that anything that makes the Jews sound bad will be put out as the "truth" and "fact". I still find it hard to believe thse guys are as silly as the Nazi's were back inWW2.

Have you noticed that they still haven't answered my question? They won't because they believe that they are just more informed and enlightened, when all they are full of is hatred.

[teamnelson]

TN as in my question when they have an unpopular or unsatisfactory answer they avoid the question.

I thought of this thread last night when I watched the premiere of Justified. Not a show I'll be watching regular, but I thought the little diatribe about how the Jews descended from the Edomites, the mud people Cain laid with, was most interesting. Some elaborate exegetical gymnastics to make the OT support a pretty messed up worldview, but not the worst I've heard.

[billy_56081]

So TM are you going to answer my question and try to win me to your side? And don't give me the answer that you don't hate Jews because in your thousands of posts you have already proven that you do.

[Matt]

So why do you guys really hate the Jews? I understand that old TM is working on a comedy tour but what about the rest of you?

Could you please show me one post here on GBO where a member has said “I hate Jews "?
 

I find people with an unrealistic fear and hatred of a people are usually ignortant or somewhat unintelligent.

WOW you have finally admitted that you are ignorant and unintelligent... Praise God…  Billy has found the truth...

Billy I can find well over 500 posts that YOU state YOU HATE muslims. You hate the people and want them ALL dead... these are your words and the reason is a unrealistic fear that they are going to attack us or kill us all.

So now, I see your reply #16 as a personal attack on GBO members who have a different view than yours. Well nice thing about being the owner of this site is I can take action when I see a rules violation.

So now you have broken the rules again, so to show you that I am sick and tired of it you just got “muted“ for 5 days starting as soon as I make this post.

Anyone else who feels as Billy does and would like to attack another member will also find themselves muted for a few days or banned… just depends on the mood I am in when I read your post.

Some of you need to grow up and act like adults or get the hell off of this site…

Matt

[teamnelson]

TM7, my calculations put that number at over a billion, possibly 2 billion, that are interested in turning the clock back to at least the 7th century, if not all the way back to pre-NT. We may be looking at different groups though.

I'm preaching out of Matthew 5 this sunday btw, vs. 43-48, 17-20 as preamble. [for no particular reason other than that we're going through Matthew] I wonder what those 190 million or 2 billion depending on which math we use think Jesus meant?

[saddlebum]

IT'S THE MUD PEOPLE BILLY, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE, IT'S THE BASTARD CHILDREN OF THE MUD PEOPLE!!!!!!!      Mudites or Edomuds, I don't know but they are very scarey! OOOOOH, I can barely sleep at night. As a Christian I will have to spend eternity with them. What will I ever do?........Actually I'm looking forward to it very much!!!!!

[1marty]

there must be a full moon out. Seems all the loons really eat this stuff up.

[torpedoman]

  The really big question is ,, Who cares if they attack?

[wreckhog]

I would be interested in seeing them attack Germany. The sentimental target. Of course we have military there. Hmmm. That and we would have to curtail foreign aid to them.

[beerbelly]

Billy I will not try to change your mind, but I am no fan of the Israelis or Jews . Which ever you choose to call them.
     They were the first terrorist in Palestine. They were blowing up the British that held the area as a protectorate. The Jews were not getting their nation as fast as they wanted , so they were bombing the hell out of the British! Where is the difference between them and the Muslims?
      In my opinion they had no right to land that other people had lived on and called home for a thousand years or so! Don’t tell me god gave it to them, he has not told me or anyone else I know of any such thing. Some one wrote that in a book a few thousand years age. You don’t think it might have been a Jew do you? No god did not wright the Bible!
     They have spied on us and stole all of our military secrets and sold some of them to the Chinese!
     They attacked the USS Liberty and murdered many US sailors! You dam right it was a deliberate attack and they knew it was an American ship!  On one occasion they tried to blow some folks up and frame the USA for the killings!
      I can see no difference in the Israelis and the Muslims , I think the world would be a better place if both were wiped off the face of the earth!
                            Beerbelly

[wganz]

I don't which is more ate up with the dumbs; the person that wrote that or those here that believe it.
Psalms 2
Why do the heathens rage?
And their leaders imagine a vain thing?


Genesis 12: 3
       I will bless those who bless you,
       and whoever curses you I will curse;
       and all peoples on earth
       will be blessed through you."

Not much wiggle room for you there. So, choose; but choose wisely.

[BBF]

Don't you think Japan should foot the bill for its own protection some ?

My take on this is that the Japanese would have liked to see the butt end of the last American Servicemen leave 20 years ago but are political to smart and to polite to say so.

[BBF]

I would be interested in seeing them attack Germany.

I doubt it. First ther German Gvt to a man is bending over double or kissing butts just to make sure that the Israelis and Jews in other countries are reminded just how sorry Germany is because of the history. They even changed which verse of the National Anthem is used to keep the peace although the words were written and sung well before the 3rd Reich.

 Secondly the Israelis still hit on the Germans for not so little favors in money and goods. Why mess this up?

[BBF]

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Well,,,I'm more concerned about those that live among us and run our systems directly in the west...the greater threat by far.

>>TM7

Right on!! They are doing a very fine job fooling you now

[saddlebum]

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Well,,,I'm more concerned about those that live among us and run our systems directly in the west...the greater threat by far.

>>TM7
[/quote]                                                                                                                                                                                        Okay, that is just tin foil hat stuff there. Oh my gosh! It's the invasion of the "Mud" people. They have infiltrated our," western systems",......".directly". Sounds like something from a Klan meeting. I wonder.....are you afraid to leave your house? Do you ever get out and meet new people? Does your family take turns standing guard through the night, every night? Come on give it a rest. Aren't you just a little embarrassed?  How can you defend that statement against being racist?

[tom barthel]

Some would do well to consult the bible on this.  The time is yet to come when Israel will have to face a reconstituted roman empire (which I believe will be the eu), Gog, Magog, Persia, and others in the battle of Armegeddon.  Helping Israel will be Tarsish and the young lions thereof (countries started by Tarsish), and Sheba and Dedan.  
It's going to happen.  You can decide any way you wish.  I choose to follow the bible.  

[powderman]

Some would do well to consult the bible on this.  The time is yet to come when Israel will have to face a reconstituted roman empire (which I believe will be the eu), Gog, Magog, Persia, and others in the battle of Armegeddon.  Helping Israel will be Tarsish and the young lions thereof (countries started by Tarsish), and Sheba and Dedan.  
It's going to happen.  You can decide any way you wish.  I choose to follow the bible.  

Good post. There are some here who will be in for a shock when they meet God, saying ooooppppps aint gonna cut it. POWDERMAN. 

[1marty]

I have it on good authority that the israeli airforce intends to obliterate Europe by dropping matzo balls on easter sunday. The people hit with the matzo balls will lose the power of speech and will only be able to communicate in hebrew. This came from a very high source in the Israeli airforce.

[powderman]

BEERBELLY. Yes, theres a world of difference. Israel is Gods people, muslims belong to satan himself. Pretty simple. POWDERMAN. 

[Squib]

israelis are semites that don't acknowledge jesus as christians do, have no qualms with extreme violence, and have a place in the political ballet of rpg and air raid in the middle east... right along with the muslims. 

anyone questioning the loyalty of the jewish subculture in america is not PR but it's okay to lambast and accuse all muslims whether immigrant or natural born..... they're all semites and they're not christian. 

I don't understand how anyone here can hate one group and not the other.  hate them both or not at all.  and anyone that doesn't hate both groups isn't "ANTI-SEMITE".  PS- all that skinhead/aryan crap is garbage too: Iran means "land of the Aryan" and yes hitler hated jews and worked with some muslim groups to extend his campaign a bit more east BUT he wasn't anti-semite either since he claimed the common ARYAN link between his race and the persians, and used a hindu sun symbol from ancient persia for his nazi symbolism.  HITER wasn't an anti-semite!  hating jews is hating jews, anti-semitism is hating most anything middle eastern.  get the label(s)' meanings sorted out before throwing them out like rice at a wedding.

[Graybeard]

Anyone else who feels as Billy does and would like to attack another member will also find themselves muted for a few days or banned… just depends on the mood I am in when I read your post.

OK I feel that way mute my ass why don't you?

TM7 has in every post he's ever made here or very close to it shown his hatred for Jews and ties more lies to them and blames everything from too much or too little rain to every action taken by DC politicos to them. Well his story is BS and that's a fact.

He claims they are behind the cabel he often referrs to as the illuminati and tries to even tie Freemasory to them. He wants to say they run everything and that our politicians are in their pocket.

Well the most recent move by osama really backs that story doesn't it? He walked out on talks with them showing once again the biggest snub he could give them and all the while kissing ass of the muslims that TM7 sticks up for all the time.

I'm becoming sick and tired of this whole thing and all the BS stories my TM7. I'm about ready to be rid of it all.

[bilmac]

Squib  There's an awful lot of hate in you isn't there.

[powderman]

BILL. Well said, all true. POWDERMAN. 

[ShadowMover]

All I can say is wow! The "moderators' and administrators are throwing rocks at each other.

Some are accusing well spoken moderate statements of being 'hate'. GB himself has put himself in the category of those feeling it's OK to insult peoples' ancestors. He equates comments concerning  Israeli control and influence with being ant-Jewish, and thus hating Jews. Let me explain that being Jewish does not mean you believe Israel has any special place in the world. I know a majority of Jews probably do. You can be Jewish without believing in Israel. Judaism existed quite well and quite successfully up until WW2 without an Israel. Judaism is a faith, Zionism is the belief that that faith should have a national homeland in Israel. There is much discussion in Israeli and Jewish newspapers and media about these same issues; does that make them anti-Semites?  Does wanting control of our borders make us anti-Mexican or anti-Catholic? Of course not.  The careless confusion of Judaism and Zionism is used as a club by those who would defend Israeli actions against US interests and policy by screaming anti-Semitism, just as a Black lawmaker who under criticism would scream racism. Cheap tricks to fool the rubes.

My observation and the observations of other posters is that any complaint about Israel is taken as an attack on their religion. If I was to complain about Red Chinese influence, spying, and internet sabotage, would I be accused of being anti-Chinese?  

I believe Americans should put American (USA) issues and priorities first. I think that Americans of Jewish faith, and Americans of all faiths and national origins should put the well being of our country first and foremost, always. If they have a problem with that, they shouldn't be too surprised if somebody notices and calls them on it. People who swear allegiance to the US Constitution and then go to work for another country and to the detriment of our country are traitors.  

[Squib]

sounds good shadowmover

all SPECIAL INTEREST IDENTITY groups are wrong and corrupt our nation.  it seems like white people can spot that from any front EXCEPT if it comes from republicans or zionists.  I think that most of us on here probably side with the tea party idealism yet most members froth at the mouth when anti-zionist introspection is introduced into the conversation.

what hate bilmac?

[BBF]

 ???I'm stil trying to digest/understand what GB wrote

[powderman]

Shadowmover. God established Israel thousands of years ago so Israel is not new, just hidden for way too long. The world allowed Israel to be torn apart and her land divided by the Godless nations of this earth. The last straw was the murders of over 6 million Jews during WW11. God decided ENOUGH, and lifted them up, and they will never be conquered again. They have the ability to totally destroy all of her Godless neighbors, but they choose not to, they only want peace. Every single time the Godless ones attack Israel they get their butts in a sling, even though Israel is only 1/500 th the size of her Godless neighbors. In one battle with Egypy, Egypt lost over 20,000 troops, Israel lost 6, yep, SIX. Still there are those who refuse to see Gods hand in protecting his people. Those who bless Israel will be blessed. Shame on those who turn their backs on her, like osama has done.
Will Israel attack iran??? I  believe it will happen, and iran will be backed by russia. Time will tell. POWDERMAN.