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Hog meat ?
« on: March 17, 2010, 01:31:14 PM »
Not sure if this is the right place for this...I tried the "recipes for wild game" forum, cudn't find anything.  I got a hog hunt booked for latter in the year. Plan on taking my sons along with dear old Dad and his brother. That means five of us..What if we all get one.?  I'm gonna have a whole cart load of pork...I "can" my venison ...can I "can" wild boar ?  What part of the boar do ya keep ? All of it ?  I'm really clue-less as to what to expect from this hunt.  The guide did tell me to bring at least 64 gal. coolers.( per hog, I think ) ..bigger if I can.   Any suggestions.   Thanks and regards, irold

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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2010, 02:08:16 PM »
I've never canned meat but yes it is a valid method to use on pork. I have a friend in PA who raises and slaughters two hogs, one steer and some chickens for their own use each year. He cans a lot of his meat from both the steer and hogs.

I don't save anything from the inside of an animal that can be taken out in the field dressing procedure. Other than that it's all eatable except the hide.

If you have someone who makes really good sausage it's not a bad idea to make up a bunch of it. Still you can cut the hams, front shoulders and pork chops up just like at the grocery store. My advice would be to treat it like you would a deer you kill just make sure the meat is cooked completely done.


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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2010, 02:26:51 PM »
I remember helping with caning it as a kid.  We made sausage balls, packed them in a fruit jar, poured rendered fat over them and sealed the jars.  These kept for quite a long time.  We also canned smoked bacon pretty much the same way.  I'm sure there were other thing we canned to.

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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2010, 03:05:10 PM »
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...Other than [insides out in field dressing]...it's all eatable except the hide.

Good one GB; but according to the following post, hehe, there is more edible in there than that:

If you want I can show you how to use everything but the Squeel. ;D

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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2010, 05:39:19 PM »
I don't think my Grandpa threw away anything on a hog.  Sometimes at breakfast we would get "mystery" meat that tasted like pork........... ???
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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2010, 12:35:22 AM »
We call that mystery meat "bacon"!  ;D   ;D   ;D

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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2010, 03:17:19 AM »
We raised hogs and chickens when I was a boy. My grand parents made use of a lot more parts of those hogs than I did or would.

They pickled the pig's feet. YUCK!  :o

They made souse meat from the brains and ears as best as I can recall. Double YUCK!  :o

And used the intestines as food. Man did that stink up the house all day long. On those days I stayed outside and as far from home as possible until bed time most often skipping supper on those days.

Of course many folks use the liver, kidneys, lungs and heart of animals for food. I'm not among those.

Some folks eat things that are not truly fit for human consumption. That don't mean I do.


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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2010, 03:19:07 AM »
irold:  I cook all my pork according to standard cook book recipes for cooking pork roasts, chops, hams (front part of hog, not the cured ham), sausage and the like.  I have my hogs butchered and use everything I can.  I also use the heart and liver.  I have not seen too awful many 'wild game' cookbooks that run a laundry list of ways to cook pork though but even Betty Crocker cookbooks contain some nice recipes.

If the meat is properly harvested, butchered, frozen and wrapped it will last for years, and I mean years.  I have taken properly butchered and wrapped Venison and Boar frozen for over two years and have opened the packages to find good, clean, delicious red meat without freezer damage or aging (brown stuff...).  If the guide tells ya to bring coolers, bring coolers.....

Here's what I get from my hog hunts - a dang good hunt, exhilarating enough to make me breathe a bit harder afterward with at least one good 'huntin' story per animal.  I get a good sized critter that I will have turned into breakfast, lunch and dinner meats, and lots and lots of great meals.  

Another good cookbook is the Minnesota Heritage Cookbook - this is a 'oldie' and may no longer be in print but can probably still be found.  Also, 'Eat Like a Wild Man' cookbook from Willow Creek Press has some outstanding recipes but for most of your 'pork' cooking, just using standard recipes for store bought pork works even better with wild hog/pork as the flavor in the wild critters is much better - hth and jmtcw.....

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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2010, 04:29:20 AM »
And used the intestines as food. Man did that stink up the house all day long.

That's why I always buy my chit-lins pre-cleaned by the best method...  :-\  you know, "stump whipped" rather then "slung" or "un-slung"   ;D  'course, "unslung" are 'spose to be the most flavorful...  :-\  depending on what you been feeding the hog I guess...  :D
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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2010, 02:34:39 PM »
And used the intestines as food. Man did that stink up the house all day long.

That's why I always buy my chit-lins pre-cleaned by the best method...  :-\  you know, "stump whipped" rather then "slung" or "un-slung"   ;D  'course, "unslung" are 'spose to be the most flavorful...  :-\  depending on what you been feeding the hog I guess...  :D

Grandpa always cooked em' in an old iron washpot out in the yard.  I didn't eat them, so I paid little attention to preparation, but I do believe it involved some "slingin" and "slappin". ;D
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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2010, 06:33:43 PM »
We toss the guts and feathers, but eat  the meat! on domestic hogs we even eat the skin!

We always made Cracklins and Boudain when it was hog butchering time. By the time i was involved the "casings" for sausage and boudain were store bought, but i was told that at one time they used the ones that came with the hog.  :o  Personally I'd be scared to eat canned pork! but that's just me. That being said i do eat spam on occasion, rarely, but on occasion.

These days we vacum pack and freeze our pork and Venison. It last longer than you really need it to like that!
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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2010, 09:34:41 AM »
If you're a good enough butcher I suspect you can eat everything from a hog but the squeal. My dad had them during the war and I don't recall much getting tossed out.

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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2010, 12:20:27 PM »

If the meat is properly harvested, butchered, frozen and wrapped it will last for years, and I mean years.  I have taken properly butchered and wrapped Venison and Boar frozen for over two years and have opened the packages to find good, clean, delicious red meat without freezer damage or aging (brown stuff...).  If the guide tells ya to bring coolers, bring coolers.....


I cant get it to last 2 weeks at my house, If i kill a hog or a deer with 4 boys in the house that eat like, well "hogs", it might last 2 weeks they wont eat any other kind of meat if they can help it.

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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2010, 03:18:30 PM »
Cummon guys!   :(  you makin me hongry!  And I just had Bambi Burger Helper for dinner!   :P

After tryin my slow roasted leg of Bambi last year my huntin buddy pulled one outa his freezer where it had been for 2 years.  He slow cooked it on his electric smoker and said it was great!
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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2010, 07:30:37 PM »
You might also find out what the hogs are eating. If there are many wild onions in the fields, you might not be eating much. I have hunted areas where wild onions were like a wheat field, and not only did the hogs have a strong smell of onion, they had too strong of an onion taste. This is extremely bad in the spring.

 Most of my hog hunting is done in east TX where we have plenty of acorns and youpon hollys with berries, and the meat is excellent.

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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2010, 04:09:32 AM »
     Onions years ago there was a farmer up near posen Mich. that grew Onions and he was having problems with the deer eating up his fields, he begged me as a kid to help him out so I killed a small buck there and it was the BEST eating deer I have ever eaten, I dont know how many onions it took to get him that way but it was worth every one of them.   Jim

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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2010, 08:15:44 AM »
We've strayed a little off topic - canning pork- but then we do that regularly.

I shot three brother boars one morning that had been eating wild grapes.  Mostly the one that had fallen off of the vines, which were thick with grapes at the time.  Those on the ground are mostly fermented.

Those brothers were drunk, near as I could tell.  One after the other.  They didn't know what hit them.

Surprising thing was, that meat was THE BEST I ever ate.  Marinated in sour grape mash - on the hoof I might add...

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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2010, 02:21:07 AM »
Appreciate all the replys....been off line a while, sorry for not responding for a while.  Yes , we do get off topic once in awhile, but enjoy the stories.  The book I got with the canner does cover "pork" , guess I was wondering if anybody actually canned the "wild" variety of pork.  Think I'll try it.  Gots to be carefull here in Pa. , unless they've changed the law, I can only keep venison in my freezer untill the following July.......don't want to be quoted on this, but I think its something like that.  Anyway...thanks for the suggestions.  Hope to post some pics from my hog hunting experiences.
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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2010, 02:26:37 AM »
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Gots to be carefull here in Pa. , unless they've changed the law, I can only keep venison in my freezer untill the following July.......don't want to be quoted on this, but I think its something like that.

You Serious? they got freezer police in PA. God Bless Texas!
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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2010, 03:27:28 AM »
Well sort of , I believe they have it on the books to pursue a poacher........From what I understand the PGC doesn't even need a warrant , they can come in and if ya have venison in your freezer, they assume ya to be a poacher .  Doesn't seem kosher to me....and don't know that to be fact, just what I've heard.  ( from locals not internet sources )  Maybe someone with greater knowledge will enlighten us.  Guess we've really wondered off topic now......oh well, its my thread..GBs site though !

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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2010, 03:44:04 AM »
Well if you put it that way, yes the GW's in Texas can walk in your home as well, if they suspect illegal activity. but they dont expiration dates and dont even go in private homes on a regular basis. But from the first post I read it seemed that there was a state imposed expiration date
I am not gonna say I wont eat canned pork, cause I have been known to eat fried spam. But I have not been hungry enough yet to eat pork that I wudda/cudda canned.

And We are discussing "HOG MEAT" aint we?  ???  ;D
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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2010, 05:14:35 AM »
All of these sidebars are really OK provided the original poster is OK.

If irold doesn't mind his thread being "hijacked" away from pork meat canning, far be it from me to say otherwise.  We do come back to point though, don't we...

The problem with starting another (or multiple) points in one thread is REMEMBERING where all of the good discussion is posted.  New ideas should be started as new posts.  That way the original topic stays "pristine".

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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2010, 07:16:12 AM »
10-4 , thats understood.  Will try to do better in the future.

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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2010, 01:20:07 AM »
...as for GW's walking in without a warrant, it is EXACTLY that way here if FL.  The Hunter Safety course I attended in July '09, with my daughter, the GW explained a recent ploy used with regular LEO's to enter into the houseboat of a suspected drug dealer on the suspicion of illegal game, and without a warrant.  The LEO's were watching the place but didn't have the evidence to get a court ordered search warrant.  The GW's, seeing their predicament, asked the LEO's if they wanted to come along for a look inside the houseboat as the GW's already suspected they possessed illegal game.  The LEO's saw what they needed to see and arrested the occupants for dealing drugs.  Simple, easy, convenient.

It is probably not a tactic the GW's would use with law abiding (below the radar) hunters in the checking of freezers for a state imposed expiration date.  First there are too many law abiding hunters.  Second, the state's high court would probably become inundated with Constitutional Rights related illegal search and siezure lawsuits.  Not to say they could or would be won...Personally, I try to rotate my freezer stock annually by eating it all, bartering for food plot seed, or giving it to the needy myself.

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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2010, 03:01:33 AM »
i tried to eat wild boar one time. had to lick my ass to get the taste out of my mouth.

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« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2010, 04:01:53 AM »
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i tried to eat wild boar one time. had to lick my ass to get the taste out of my mouth.
A lot of that problem may have been how fast and how well you butchered it.

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« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2010, 04:33:15 AM »
Alls I can and will say is I/we have killed and butchered 250lb boars and ate em and had no problem, and I can certainly afford more expensive fare. The stink is on the outside! the inside tastes like PORK!
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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2010, 02:03:57 PM »
The stink is on the outside! the inside tastes like PORK!

Hear!  Hear!  +1 to that!

I like to use the analogy that a dog hunted, wounded, or hard run pig will be full of adrenalin and the stuff that makes Fight or Flight.  That chemical "stew" settling into the muscle meat isn't going to make it taste better.

I shoot for the head/neck and as close to instantaneous kills as is permissible.  Putting them down for good on the first shot makes for a better hunt and better tasting meat.

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« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2010, 02:49:38 PM »
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i tried to eat wild boar one time. had to lick my ass to get the taste out of my mouth.
A lot of that problem may have been how fast and how well you butchered it.
Some are just nasty.
My first Boar was a old gladiator that had scars and knicks all over him.  I hit him adly the first round and he ran about 100 yards before I could hit him again.  We gutted him in the field, Iced him for the ride ack to camp, Hung him, skinned and washed him down with cold water in under an hour from gutting and the meat on him was aweful with amonst no fat on it.  looked more like deer than pork.  i tried cooking it in many different ways.  The Dog would not eat it. And it may have been due to the first round taking his JAW off. The next pig was pink and had nice creamy white fat and when butchered looked like the pork I get from Cost Co and tasted like it.

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Re: Hog meat ?
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2010, 08:01:40 AM »
i tried to eat wild boar one time. had to lick my ass to get the taste out of my mouth.

BTW, there is just way too much wrong with that but I can type it until I stop laughing...