Author Topic: Serious wife troubles (Read 3444 times)

Gene R · « **on:** March 20, 2010, 01:25:17 PM »

The wife wants a revolver to keep handy and in her night stand for home defence for when I'm working late or hunting late, and she is by her self. The problem is that she refuses to shoot or even try to shoot anything other than a 22lr or 22 mag

, and will not even touch a semi-auto. For example, she is also a hunter and will only use a TC Enchore in .243, she will not even pick up a bolt action, she says she is afraid of them and wants to be sure when there is a round in the chamber or not. So I bought her her own TC .243 in which she has killed 6 bucks with it in the past 4 years. But self defense is not deer hunting.

I've tried to get her to shoot a 38, 44 spec, ect. but once she hears that boom, she will not touch it. I'm considering getting her a S&W m63 with a 3" barrel. I would much rather get her a M60, but it would be useless if she refuses to touch it. I wish they made a good quality 22mag of this same type.

I do not consider a 22 as a good defense weapon for anyone, although I wouldn't recommend anyone to try and harm my family if I have a 22 close by

Any suggestions? If not, I guess that I will be buying a M63 for her.

trotterlg · « **Reply #1 on:** March 20, 2010, 01:50:46 PM »

Do what I do with my Wife, buy here whatever she wants. I see Taurus has a 22 Mag revolver, 8 round cylinder ultralight, not my first choice, but eight out of that is better than none out of a 45. Larry

Siskiyou · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2010, 01:59:55 PM »

Go with the wife's wishs. A losing situation for you. I know, I made the mistake. Teacher the value of multible hits on the target, but when to stop shooting when the threat is removed.

A 22 in the eye has to be more effective than a sharp stick in the eye.

Mikey · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2010, 02:09:38 PM »

Gene: get her what she wants. Doesn't S&W make a j-frame size 9 shooter snubbie in stainless???

Gene R · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2010, 02:34:05 PM »

Mikey, I think your talking about the 63 and its an 8 shot, I cant find a 22mag in that frame other than Taurus and it has alot of bad reviews, misfiring ect. And if it has to be a 22 or 22mag at least it BETTER shoot every time.

Swampman · « **Reply #5 on:** March 20, 2010, 02:39:10 PM »

Buy her a .22 magnum Deringer. I don't blame her for not wanting a semi-auto.

doc-and · « **Reply #6 on:** March 20, 2010, 03:37:03 PM »

You might get her one of these with the longer barrel and with the optional Mag Cylinder.

Didn't Ruger offer a 22 in their double action revolter?

docand

Savage · « **Reply #7 on:** March 20, 2010, 03:41:40 PM »

A .22 revolver is is! Her mind is made up. It's pointless to try to change it. Just make sure to get a good double action. Stay away from the "Mini" revolvers. No point is handicapping her with a .22 that's difficult to shoot as well as underpowered. I don't have any experience with either, but I think both Charter and Taurus make a DA revolver in .22 mag. They might be worth a look.
Savage
edit: doc just jarred my memory-----Ruger SP 101 ??

torpedoman · « **Reply #8 on:** March 20, 2010, 03:51:37 PM »

It has been my limited experience that when the wife gets what she wants the house is a lot quieter. If she does not it is like driving with cheap tires there is a whining noise every were you go.

williamlayton · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2010, 03:06:24 AM »

Would she consider a .32 from S&W?
Blessings

Gene R · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2010, 04:39:54 AM »

A .32 ? Now there is a possability.

I do not have one nor have ever had one, but that is a possability.

Thanks
Gene

jlchucker · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2010, 06:35:42 AM »

Quote from: Mikey on March 20, 2010, 02:09:38 PM

Gene: get her what she wants. Doesn't S&W make a j-frame size 9 shooter snubbie in stainless???

I don't know it it comes in stainless, but the Taurus 94 is a 9 shooter, and not a bad 22.

BBF · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2010, 11:32:49 AM »

Lots of folks got killed and will be killed from a 22. I wouldn't find feel undergunned with one. Chances for someone to come busting into your place with body armor is probably pretty low.

drdougrx · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2010, 11:44:54 AM »

Try this...kind of alot of $$ but probably will be collectable so keep the box and paperwork and maybe sell for a profit some day.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=760598&tabselected=tech&isFirearm=Y&parent_category_rn=

rockbilly · « **Reply #14 on:** March 21, 2010, 12:59:05 PM »

See if you can steer her to this web site "by a woman for women." I have successfully used it to sway the thinking of several women on what is “best” to carry. If necessary print it out and leave it on her bedside table, who knows? She may come back and ask for a .45.

http://www.io.com/~cortese/firearms/

saddlebum · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2010, 01:47:24 PM »

I don't think the report from a .38spl is any worse than a .22mag, but thats just me. Maybe a .32 S&W or S&W Long would work, if you can find one. If she doesn't like noise stay away from the .32mag or 327 Federal. M-63 would be good if you load it with the Velocitor rounds or the badest loads you can find. Practice shooting pie plates about the the size of a bad guys head. Might even consider a good pepper spray from Kimber or somebody else.

zlngr · « **Reply #16 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:39:18 AM »

here is another website geared toward women and guns while it leans heavily toward concealed carry there is tons of info to be had.
http://www.corneredcat.com/

rdmallory · « **Reply #17 on:** March 22, 2010, 12:04:29 PM »

How about a .410/45Lc barrel for her Encore?

Doug

Gene R · « **Reply #18 on:** March 22, 2010, 12:46:17 PM »

Thanks for your suggestions, but it looks like the M63 is going to be the one for now.

Atleast she will practice with it, I guess thats better than something she won't shoot. I wounder if S&W would fit a 22mag cylinder for it?

gunblade · « **Reply #19 on:** March 22, 2010, 02:31:48 PM »

Look for a used 651...same gun as the 63 only in .22 magnum, 4" barrel, adjustable sights, etc. Or, a 650...that was the fixed sight 3" barrel version in .22 magnum only. I think you can get a lr cylinder for a magnum gun, but not the other way around. The 63, 650 and 651 were all 6 shots....the 317 is the little lightweight alloy framed 8 or 9 shot (?) with adj. sights and 3" barrel. The 617 is a ten shot with full underlug barrel. Ruger also offers the SP 101 in .22lr.

LouisianaMan · « **Reply #20 on:** March 22, 2010, 05:10:23 PM »

Gene,
If she feels positive about a .22, then I'd "declare victory" and get her one with all the ammo she could shoot!

If it's not too late to track down an S&W in .22Mag, I'd really go with that if she's for it. I think Bill Jordan was pretty impressed with that caliber, and that's a pretty good recommendation! If it's .22LR, take heart--I think few BGs want to suck up a half-dozen slugs of any flavor!

I used to be a hollow-point-at-all-cost guy, but in recent years I've changed. Best I can tell, expansion will increase likelihood of cutting thu something important as far as the bullet penetrates. . .but that same expansion may stop the bullet so soon that penetration essentially fails.

I've never compared the calibers side-by-side, but I suspect a factory-loaded .32 S&W Long is probably no louder than a hi-vel or hyper-vel .22LR. Loaded with a wadcutter, that .32 is a better proposition on the whole (except for ammo expense vs. .22). Plenty of fine .32s available at on-line auctions. If she's not comfortable with it, though, it ain't happening!

45-70.gov · « **Reply #21 on:** March 22, 2010, 05:23:23 PM »

never shot them side by side
but i bet the 22 mag wil be louder than the 38 [at least close]
so whats the point?

$20 in 22 mag will get her approx 100 rounds practice
$20 in 22 lr ....approx 600 rounds of practice

get her the best 22 lr you can afford

Dand · « **Reply #22 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:51:31 PM »

Get her the 22 and let her shoot it a lot. Maybe that will give her confidence to try something bigger eventually. Don't pressure her - let her decide.

Sweetwater · « **Reply #23 on:** March 22, 2010, 11:05:15 PM »

Lots of good advice here ( I thought this was going to be a "divorce in progress thread" ) whew! Totally agree with printing out the woman and guns links posted. Got a woman's shooting club in your area? A little peer reinforcement might change her thinking. A pal of mine once trained a bunch of female emt's for concealed carry. They had to learn to shoot, first. Well, what they wanted to carry and what they wanted to shoot were two different guns. By the end of the session, they were sold on the size of the 357's (of the mid-80's) but would much rather shoot his 4"S&W 44Spl. You can't go wrong getting her what she wants. I would add to not let her think "she is stuck with it". Allow room for her to grow with the gun, her confidence, etc and she may come to you saying she has outgrown it and wants a ........! Another Victory!

Mikey · « **Reply #24 on:** March 23, 2010, 03:24:53 AM »

Gene: totally forgot but thankfully the last post by Sweetwater reminded me....there is a magazine out there entitled Women and Guns, and it is a pretty good read. It really relates to women and shooting more than anything else and there are good reviews of different and new firearms as well as calibers, etc.

I don't know if you can pick up a copy at a newstand or if you have to subscribe, maybe you can review some of the articles on line, but this may be of some assistance you both you and your wife. Good luck.

Graybeard · « **Reply #25 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:01:44 AM »

If she refuses to shoot a .38 due to the muzzle blast as you say then do not waste your money on a .22 Magnum as the blast from it in a revolver is worse than any standard .38 special load.

I suspect this is a prejudice on her part based primarily on the ammo you've allowed her access to. Target loads like wadcutters and any other such light .38 loads are rather mild in recoil and blast and while more than a .22LR they are certainly less than a .22 Mag.

OLDPUPPYMAX · « **Reply #26 on:** March 28, 2010, 06:52:17 AM »

I know it probably sounds silly, but take her to look at something like an AR-15! .22, big magazine, easy to shoot and handle and far less "bang" than a .44. She'll look and feel like a gal Rambo and have a weapon which can do some real damage if necessary.

222 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 28, 2010, 11:59:53 AM »

Be sure she shots with quality hearing protection.

jpred1 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 28, 2010, 01:16:39 PM »

I really dont understand the promblem. She shoots a 243 encore , noise shouldnt be that big of deal. But we all know how women are, maybe you could get her to a range thats packed and she could try a few in real life ( other than holding in a store).The 410 encore would even work, put buckshot in it and hope she doesnt miss the one shot, but most average thugs wouldnt know its a single, just one big ass gun shot by a mad woman.

walks with gun · « **Reply #29 on:** March 28, 2010, 03:05:17 PM »

.32mag start her off with a box of 32 S&W then try the mags, fairly low noise and very little recoil. I can't think of anything better for someone who does'nt want a big gun.