Author Topic: Ordered Ruger No. 1-A in .303 British, peep sight? (Read 4675 times)

Canuck Bob · « **on:** March 23, 2010, 10:55:48 AM »

A local dealer has got the ball rolling on .303 British No.1's. It could be awhile for delivery but Ruger is accepting orders and I'm on the list!

My plan is to build an English stalking rifle with a peep sight. The quarter rib may go so the sights that clamp there may not work. Years ago I had a Williams FP receiver sight on a Tropical which worked great but the look never worked for me.

Does anyone have pictures of peep sights on No. 1's or No. 3's?

Any pictures of a XS Ghost Ring sight installed on a No.1 or 3 rifles?

A tang sight would be ideal but the safety button is in the way, any ideas?

Thanks.

mattmillerrx · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2010, 01:21:01 PM »

I have a necg that mounts in the ruger base. I have since changed loads and switched to a scope but will likely go back to the peep some day

Darrell Davis · « **Reply #2 on:** March 26, 2010, 02:45:20 PM »

I have seen an ad for a peep which mounts to the rear scope position on the quarter rib.

Thought it looked cool, but all of my #1 have been scoped.

That .303 should have great possiblilities for being "improved."

Not that it is needed, but that case would look great all strightened out w/ a sharp shoulder!

Almost as good as an Alexander Henry forarm with the grove cut off and a nice piece of ebony in place!

Mine will get that treatment soon!

Keep em coming!

CDOC

BlkHawk73 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 28, 2010, 04:50:10 AM »

I have one of the NECG sights as well and it is THE best sight I've ever used. I'll certainly be adding a couple more to some other #1's here.

Have a .303 in my name at the distributor as well.

mattmillerrx · « **Reply #4 on:** March 28, 2010, 06:24:24 AM »

Where are you seeing these offered. I tried to find them on the Ruger site and by googling but no luck.

Thanks,

BlkHawk73 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 28, 2010, 07:40:19 AM »

Midway has them and you can buy direct from the one's that make it.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=662895

http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/Peep%20sight.htm#Ruger

mattmillerrx · « **Reply #6 on:** March 28, 2010, 02:54:37 PM »

Sorry, talking bout the rifle not the sight.

BlkHawk73 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 29, 2010, 03:53:15 PM »

Ahh, ok. They're to be a special run. Initially it was a Canadian thing with some being for Lipsey's. Upon agreeing to the project, it seems Ruger will ship them to any distributor. Alos seems to be a bunch heading to Australia as well. Supposedly they're expected around Sept. Only way to get one I'd think (they'll go fast) is to have your dealer order one for you ahead of time.

kyelkhunter3006 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 30, 2010, 05:15:51 PM »

OMG they finally came out with my DREAM rifle. What's the going rate on these?

Con · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2010, 04:00:20 AM »

Quote from: BlkHawk73 on March 29, 2010, 03:53:15 PM

Only way to get one I'd think (they'll go fast) is to have your dealer order one for you ahead of time.

... and the more ordered the sooner the run begins. But there's some banter about that the Boddington 'Elephant' rifles may be sent out in April with the 303British run then occupying the machinery. In Australia, its kind of guessed at that the 303s will be available in the September-Dec period but nobody is willing to confirm categorically ... which seems the 'Ruger way'. But import documentation needs to be prepared, hence the Sept-Dec possible timeline.

Either way, its generated quite a bit of interest plus around 50 sales in a month ordering window with nil advertising other than word of mouth via the internet. Going to be not many left stock standard either ... already talk of Express sights being fitted, colour case hardening and engraving etc...

Cheers...
Con

Canuck Bob · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2010, 08:24:46 PM »

I understand that Ruger has issued a production number for the rifle. It is listed on the dealer site I think. The rifle will be No.1-A light sporter standard config. My dealer sells them at Ruger list for the 1-A here in Canada. Any Ruger dealer and certainly any Ruger rep will know details for your country one would assume.

I think my dealer has presold deposits on over 60 rifles and an initial order of at least 80 rifles. It could already be higher because he had been accepting orders for only a few days when he told me that.

He suggested that Ruger may manufacture a run to cover the pre-solds and then wait to see dealer retail demand. The only spec I know is a .311 barrel suggesting SAMMI dimensions. Ruger is very tight regarding info. A kinda send your money we will tell you what you bought later attitude. The No.1-A is a well known item though so barrel twist is my only concern but I'll simply match load to twist.

kyelkhunter3006 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 02, 2010, 10:05:13 AM »

I'm just glad that it'll be a .311 barrel. Not a .308 bore.

ourway77 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 30, 2010, 05:16:45 PM »

I just bought a Ruger Number 1-V in 22-250 caliber, can't wait to shoot it. Real nice wood. I hope it's a shooter. Lou

Darrell Davis · « **Reply #13 on:** May 31, 2010, 07:44:19 AM »

The following is more or less a "PS" to my earlier post, and as always, is just IMHO.

I have liked the looks of the peep, made to mount in the rear scope mount position of the RUGER #1.

I still do, however I would not want one on any #1 rifle with any amount of felt recoil.

The reason ------------ Well when I bought my RUGER #1s - 45/70 it came with an unusable scope which was removed before I fired the rifle with the attached iron sights.

My loads were very light when compared to the abilities of the #1, but HURT!!!!!!!!!!

In fact, I was beginning to wonder what I had gotten myself into and was I going to be man enough to shoot this rifle and like it.

I went ahead and bought/mounted a suitable scope and headed for the bench with a shot filled shoulder pad my wife made me, only to find the rifle was not as abusive as first thought/felt.

The difference, head position.

Although the rifle does back up a bit, the pain was coming from being repeatedly smacked in the face by the stock comb, do to the need to pull the face far down into the stock to line up the iron sights.

I quickly realized the use of iron and or peep sights was, for me, NOT AN OPTION!

I have owned, shot and hunted with #1 rifles for years and have never been hurt by one, so I was very happy to find the problem was not rifle or caliber, but simply the low head position required by the iron sights!

Keep em coming!

CDOC

Brithunter · « **Reply #14 on:** June 02, 2010, 08:53:17 AM »

I hear a fw in the UK have contacted the importers here:-

Viking Arms

and have been quoted at current exchange rates £1300 which works out to be about $2050 US

if the rate drops more then the price will go up.

I won't be putting my name down unless I suddenly come into a lot of money.

Canuck Bob · « **Reply #15 on:** June 03, 2010, 09:25:00 PM »

The farther one gets from the US border the more they cost and the hssles increase!

Darrel, thanks for your comments. Years ago I owned an early No1 Tropical in 375 H&H which I installed a receiver sight on. I now remember the stock fit and the kick problem. I now remember adding the tallest front sight available to help.

Since starting this thread I have researched a number of options. For initial load work I'll mount a nice 2.5X Leupold compact scope I own. It has a good chance of staying there with some good QR clamps and a nice express rear sight for optic emergencies. I'm also considering the VX3 1.5-5X20 as well but I own the 2.5X and it really suits my style and needs.

Brithunter · « **Reply #16 on:** June 04, 2010, 12:15:06 AM »

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The farther one gets from the US border the more they cost and the hssles increase!

Hmmm I don't swallow that as after all shipping from the mainland US to Hawaii surely is no further than shipping to Europe? And one would have thought the volume sales in Europe would be more than those in Hawaii?

Part of the problem is the import tax a whopping 4% but they then add 17.5% VAT on top of that

yep you pay tax on the tax.

The importers in general are also known to be greedy with 100% being their preferred minimum mark up

not sure about Viking Arms them selves so I might be misjudging them. The Remington importers here are bloody greedy.

Darrell Davis · « **Reply #17 on:** June 04, 2010, 08:44:12 AM »

Moun'in Canuck Bob,

I think you are headed the right direction.

If I could have found a 1X4 or 1.5X5, I would have gone that way. Available new, just currently out of my "used" price range.

I settled on the 2X7 Leupold which is doing OK.

All three of those Leupold scopes have about the same eye relief at the low powers. PLENTY!!

The 2X7 starts to close in the field of view at the higher powders, but considering that 7X will be mostly used on the bench during load development, no big thing!

Sure hope my new LBT mold gets here, SOON!!, I want to get to the bench and shoot some groups!

Keep em coming!

CDOC

Canuck Bob · « **Reply #18 on:** June 04, 2010, 12:17:31 PM »

Quote from: Brithunter on June 04, 2010, 12:15:06 AM

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The farther one gets from the US border the more they cost and the hssles increase!

Hmmm I don't swallow that as after all shipping from the mainland US to Hawaii surely is no further than shipping to Europe? And one would have thought the volume sales in Europe would be more than those in Hawaii?

Part of the problem is the import tax a whopping 4% but they then add 17.5% VAT on top of that yep you pay tax on the tax.

The importers in general are also known to be greedy with 100% being their preferred minimum mark up not sure about Viking Arms them selves so I might be misjudging them. The Remington importers here are bloody greedy.

It is just as bad here and I live 100 miles from Montana! I can't order a scope from the US but I can buy the same scope from the gunshop at twice its American value.

Brithunter · « **Reply #19 on:** June 04, 2010, 08:29:36 PM »

Now if I could afford one and the Importers really will get one then for the scope I would put on either my:-

Leupold Vari X 111 2.5-8x
Leupold M8 Compact 4x
Weaver K3W

The vari X 111 came on a Ruger No1B in 300 Win mag so I know it's suits the Ruger well.

Darrell Davis · « **Reply #20 on:** June 05, 2010, 06:46:54 AM »

Yep, the Leupolds do good on the #1 RUGERs.

However, on the ones that tend to come back with a bit of force, those with larger bore size, it is smart to make the choice of something with a LOT of eye relief.

Both of my boys have joined the "Half Moon Club", one shooting a 338/06 when he was used to shooting a 270 and the other with an "06" by crawling the stock on a prone shot at his first buck.

So far I have not paid the dues to join, and hope to keep it that way.

The 45/70 does back up, so lots of eye relief is a real nice advantage!

Keep em Coming!

CDOC

kombi1976 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 11, 2010, 07:50:24 AM »

I too joined the half moon club thanks to my T3 Lite Stainless in 9.3x62.
Didn't feel it much though.
The adrenaline was pumping.
Fortunately the cut was small too.
It was certainly worth it for this.......

It had a 34.5" spread, not bad for a first trophy goat.
I haven't shot a better one yet.
But I've wandered off topic.
Have these rifles arrived anywhere yet.
I dearly wish I could afford one.