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Re: PALIN CAMPAIGNING HARD FOR MCCAIN IN ARIZONA!
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2010, 07:25:50 AM »
"All indications to me are that when the lines are drawn to vote, the Tea Party will support the Republicans. That is the only way the Tea Party will have any effective All indications to me are that when the lines are drawn to vote, the Tea Party will support the Republicans. That is the only way the Tea Party will have any effective influence on the election. on the election."

Seems to me the "tea party" people voted the republicans out of power in the first place.

Twasn't Dems that voted them out... ;)  Dems vote for Dems.  

I know I keep sayting this, but the republicans need the conservatives a lot worse than the conservatives need the republicans.  That is why the republicans are not in power now.

I would not count on "tea party" people or true conservatives votes if the republicans don't publically straighten up, and fast.  If the republicans are smart at all...they won't count on the votes either.
Seems to me they still have not figured out just who voted them out.  

The Tea party type people already have HAD an effective influence on an election....
That's why the republicans are not in power.

Am I the only one getting this?  Are the republicans really counting on my vote only because I think the Dems are a lot worse?  Now that would not be too smart on their part would it?  Maybe the republicans don't remember how they got where they are now....would not surprise me, because they forgot why they got elected in 94' as well.  

They don't appear to be none to smart and do not learn lessons very well do they?

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Re: PALIN CAMPAIGNING HARD FOR MCCAIN IN ARIZONA!
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2010, 07:42:23 AM »
No jimster, you are not the only one getting it, I get it, but a lot aren't getting it.
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Re: PALIN CAMPAIGNING HARD FOR MCCAIN IN ARIZONA!
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2010, 08:17:48 AM »
The Tea Party members may not follow thier leaders if told to support the Repubs, I agree, they didn't follow the Repub leadership last election, I understand. But most TP leadership I have heard "sound bite" lean toward support of the GOP at last effort. I don't know thier platform well enough to know or care.

Either way Sarah doesn't fit in the picture.

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Re: PALIN CAMPAIGNING HARD FOR MCCAIN IN ARIZONA!
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2010, 08:30:05 AM »
eddiegjr, I think you are right about Sara Palin.


"The Tea Party members may not follow thier leaders"

True conservatives don't have any leaders....least not now.
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« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2010, 09:02:52 AM »
The Democrates are united, many don't have a clue what is going on, but they always have and always will vote Democrate, period. 

The Republicans are divided over so many issues.  I see three groups of Republicans, the Ultra Conservatives, the Conservatives, and the Moderates.  And they don't get along well. It takes something catastrophic, (like the gun issue during Clinton's time) to get them together.  Many people I know are leaving the Republican Party because they don't agree with it anymore, they feel it has moved too far right, or too far left, but they are bailing.  I did, I'm currently registered Independent.  I feel the Republicans are too disorganized.

McCain is a moderate, and sort of an outcast for many Republicans.  Sarah never did fit into the Republican party.  She went head to head with the party and got elected anyway. 

The current polls of Republicans show their favorites to run for president to be, Romney, Huckabee, and Palin, in that order.  Now talk about a spread, one from each of the three groups.  Who's gonna win nationwide?

One thing I will say about Sarah, she knows more about energy than all of congress put together.  If they would listen to her, this country could be energy independent in three years.   One thing I do have to say about President Bush #2.  He too tried to get us energy independent, but congress refused to go along with him on that issue.
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« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2010, 09:19:12 AM »
It's completely beyond me how anyone could consider Mitt Romney a conservative of any sort.
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« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2010, 10:32:26 AM »
Quote from: Dee on March 30, 2010, 09:19:12 AM
It's completely beyond me how anyone could consider Mitt Romney a conservative of any sort.

Same, I just can't see voting for him period, so if he is the lesser of the two, it will be door number 3 for me.
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« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2010, 10:47:19 AM »
That is what I am talking about.  Romney, gets nominated in the primary, then so many people will not support him.  Either the Republican party pulls together or be defeated again, and the country becomes a more socialist nation.

There is only two parties folks, so get over your being ultra conservative, conservative, or moderate, and pull together or never get anywhere.
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Re: PALIN CAMPAIGNING HARD FOR MCCAIN IN ARIZONA!
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2010, 11:11:49 AM »
Explain what an "ultra conservative" and a "moderate conservative" is please.  In detail.  I know what a conservative is.


This should be interesting!

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Re: PALIN CAMPAIGNING HARD FOR MCCAIN IN ARIZONA!
« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2010, 11:40:25 AM »
Sourdough, I am a conservative that supports the Constitution, and Bill of Rights 100%. If the candidate doesn't, with all due respect, there is nothing to get over. I don't support him. It's just that simple. If the rest of the country wants to continue to wallow in Democratic, and Republican crap, so be it. Collectively I will suffer, but it will not be of my own doing regardless of someone else's "claimed" voting expertise, or imagined knowledge of the solution. The "solution" is to do what's right, regardless of what everyone else is doing.
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Re: PALIN CAMPAIGNING HARD FOR MCCAIN IN ARIZONA!
« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2010, 11:54:41 AM »
Amen to that Dee.
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« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2010, 05:28:22 PM »
This my way of looking at it, and it is only my opinion, but it will explain my views.  I am going to use the abortion issue as an example

Ultra Conservative:  Lets his religious views rule every aspect of his view on politics and life.  He also likes to push his views on others gets real upset when others don't agree with him.  Will make no exceptions period.  Usually is a strict Constitutionalist.  Balks at voting for any candidate that does not meet his litmus test.  No abortions period, no exceptions.   

Conservative: Are religious but not to the point of letting it rule every aspect of his life or the life of others, more tolerant.  Does not try to force his views on others.  Also believes as much as anyone else in the Constitution.  Can vote for people that don't reflect their exact views.  Can look at a candidate and make a choice based on which he thinks can do the best job.  They are usually torn on the abortion issue, they don't like abortion, but can understand the exception for rape and incest.

Moderate:  Religious and not religious folks, very tolerant.  Some are atheist (but you will never know who they are) with conservative views, with enough common sense to know the Democrats are out in left field.  Believe in the Constitution as much as anyone else.  Takes a good hard look at all the Candidates.  Will reject the ones he feels is too far right.  Is more tolerant and dislikes those that are not.  On abortion does not like abortion, but believes that is a decision that belongs with the adult woman alone.  Not a decision for children.

As I said this is my view, and how I am inclined to classify people.  As to where I fall in this view is my business.  You can make your own decision about me from what I say about the issues.  One thing, no one really knows me and never will.  Rog         

We all want the guy that we feel will do the right thing.
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Re: PALIN CAMPAIGNING HARD FOR MCCAIN IN ARIZONA!
« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2010, 06:20:02 PM »
In my experience with people,moderates are ones unwilling or unable to take a hard stand on anything. These folks seem to bend which ever way the wind blows. Example: moderates made it possible to for Obama to win. A RINO Republican is a moderate. See what that gets you? I'd rather deal with a leftist or a hard core socialist than a moderate. At least you know where they are coming from. A moderate,you never know where they will land.
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Re: PALIN CAMPAIGNING HARD FOR MCCAIN IN ARIZONA!
« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2010, 06:49:20 PM »
Quote from: Sourdough on March 30, 2010, 10:47:19 AM
That is what I am talking about.  Romney, gets nominated in the primary, then so many people will not support him.  Either the Republican party pulls together or be defeated again, and the country becomes a more socialist nation.

There is only two parties folks, so get over your being ultra conservative, conservative, or moderate, and pull together or never get anywhere.

And that's what I'm talking about! I am all for Con. Republicans kicking the RINO's out, but I have doubts of it happening. It can't happen among the polititians when only a handful of Congressmen are true Conservatives. It can happen with the American people, but they will have to move fast & organize fast. But
moderates won't be part of a force to make it happen, rather to compromize to "include" them brings us to where we are now. I followed the croud last time to try to keep the Demons out, but the rep. choose a weakm Rino, I won't do that again. So, we will see if the Republicans can get it together, I will help if that's the path they choose, but i won't vote for a Lib again with an R.
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« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2010, 03:38:12 AM »
Tolerance is just another word for surrender. You surrender you beliefs so that someone else can say what is right or wrong. The same is true for compromise. Over the last forty years we have compromised away most of the Constitution of the Unite States!
    It is like that country song, you have got to stand for something or you will fall for anything".
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« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2010, 07:16:47 AM »
beerbelly; Here  is another one for you about tolerance and being open minded. " Some people are so open minded that their brains fall out!".........Seems to discribe alot of folks these days.   :-\
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