Author Topic: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana  (Read 3196 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline lgm270

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1862
Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« on: March 28, 2010, 01:40:51 PM »
Round ups of American citizens  in three different states under the guise of suppressing "militia" movement have been announced.  One group was alleged to have been selling pipe bombs, but no other reference to any other actual crime committed by any of these groups, apart from that.   How disgusting when  our Bolshevik government can announce it's rounding up American citizens and not even identify a real crime.  In the United Soviet Socialist America you only have to be white and own a firearm to be defined as a "terrorist" and rounded up and imprisoned.  I wonder if they will be tortured by our Soviet government.  


http://www.infowars.com/large-fbi-homeland-security-operation-targets-militias-in-michigan-indiana-ohio/

Offline Brett

  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5148
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2010, 03:42:08 PM »
One if by land, two if be sea
Maybe they're coming for you
Maybe they're coming for me
One of us may up and run
The other may stand and fight
One thing's for certain
the future doesn't look bright.

Life memberships:  <><, NRA, BASS, NAFC

Offline S.S.

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2840
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2010, 04:22:27 PM »
Someone struck them back after WACO by destroying the federal building.
This should be interesting. retribution may be swift and uncompromising
just as then but I hope they are more careful of children being around!
There is an old proverb that says "Violence Begats Violence until the
innocent die with the wicked" This, unfortunately, is so true!
Vir prudens non contra ventum mingit
"A wise man does not pee against the wind".

Offline teamnelson

  • Trade Count: (30)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4487
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2010, 04:33:08 PM »
I went to the website of one of the militias targeted, and it gave a pretty clear presentation of the gospel of Jesus Christ and scriptural evidences for preparing for the end times (http://www.hutaree.com/doctrine.htm) No violent overthrow, or hate speech. No supremacy overtones, maybe undertones but nothing overt. Very obviously a militia though. If anything this raid just confirms their message, those who follow Christ will suffer injustice.
held fast

Offline The Hermit

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 722
  • Gender: Male
  • Security is the ability to take care of yourself.
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2010, 04:58:06 PM »
TN, at the hand of muslims.

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2010, 05:18:21 PM »
News just showed a bit of this, said it had to do with firearms violations.
If they are pro Jesus and pro gun osama sees them as enemies. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline nw_hunter

  • Moderator
  • Trade Count: (4)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5204
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2010, 05:52:52 PM »
I went to the website of one of the militias targeted, and it gave a pretty clear presentation of the gospel of Jesus Christ and scriptural evidences for preparing for the end times (http://www.hutaree.com/doctrine.htm) No violent overthrow, or hate speech. No supremacy overtones, maybe undertones but nothing overt. Very obviously a militia though. If anything this raid just confirms their message, those who follow Christ will suffer injustice.

The price we  pay!
Freedom Of Speech.....Once we lose it, every other freedom will follow.

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2010, 06:22:44 PM »
I went to the website of one of the militias targeted, and it gave a pretty clear presentation of the gospel of Jesus Christ and scriptural evidences for preparing for the end times (http://www.hutaree.com/doctrine.htm) No violent overthrow, or hate speech. No supremacy overtones, maybe undertones but nothing overt. Very obviously a militia though. If anything this raid just confirms their message, those who follow Christ will suffer injustice.

The price we  pay!

YEP. POWDERMAN.  :( :(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline torpedoman

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (7)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2574
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2010, 07:48:07 PM »
careful who you lie down with another "militia leader" was cooperating with the feds in this operation, as for the "pipe bomb" thing i wonder just how hard that is to fake or plant. Facts are we do not know and will not find out because those news people will report what is fed to them as the gospel and the government will be doing the feeding. Isolated incident or will it become a weekly trend? If it becomes a regular thing you may wish to give some thought to how to react.
the nation that forgets it defenders will itself be forgotten

Offline Sourdough

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8150
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2010, 08:19:51 PM »
Oh my gosh, think about it.  All the Plumbers/Pipefitters out there that reload.  Blacksmiths, Welders, anyone that fabricates anything with metal tubing.
Where is old Joe when we really need him?  Alaska Independence    Calling Illegal Immigrants "Undocumented Aliens" is like calling Drug Dealers "Unlicensed Pharmacists"
What Is A Veteran?
A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve -- is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life.' That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today who no longer understand that fact.

Offline Mikey

  • GBO Supporter
  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8734
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2010, 02:43:21 AM »
What?  homeless scrutiny hits the militia and there's no firefight, no massive federal loss???  No eric holder screaming for more waco type blood?  What gives, was there a traitor in their midst???  Sounds like it....

I don't have any doubts now that the other 'militia leader' who turned will wind up face down somewhere with a note nailed to his forehead and this could prove more costly, again, for the feds.  If, as it was said, there is 'payback' coming down the line for this it sure would be nice if the kids were out of the way but I doubt militia bent on payback will see any difference between the taliban hiding behind children and the feds hiding in their offices above daycare centers.....

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2010, 04:20:02 AM »
Facts are we do not know and will not find out because those news people will report what is fed to them as the gospel.

They will report what fits their liberal agenda. I don't trust the press anymore than I trust osama, well, maybe a bit more. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline bearmgc

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (8)
  • A Real Regular
  • *****
  • Posts: 966
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2010, 05:22:30 AM »
Exactly.

Offline bulletstuffer

  • Trade Count: (25)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 694
  • Gender: Male
  • Overkill begins when hair shoots out the antlers.
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2010, 05:31:09 AM »
Hammond Indiana militia taken down by FBI ???  They confiscated 14 guns :o  Now that may be enough weapons to take over Canada by a militia but seriously ;)  News caster reports Michigan militia member says Hammond militia is a Christian militia ???  You know it's a stetch when they are quoting the other militia but say they can't veryify the information.  The propaganda continues :(  

Bulletstuffer
I am the first to work when I have to and the first to go on vacation when I can!  God Bless America!!!

Offline magooch

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6644
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2010, 05:47:18 AM »
Bible thumpers with guns and pipe bombs--OH My GOD!  I had no idea how far this country had slipped into the pit of evil.  It's a good thing that no one here has anything to fear from our beneficent and righteous government.  I'll be tendering a prayer for the safety of our magnificent gesto...I mean our public safety persons.
Swingem

Offline crustylicious

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 697
  • Reading is fundamental, comprehension optional!
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2010, 06:06:40 AM »
Sounds like an excellent opportunity to start using some of those secret internment camps they've built with our tax dollars. ;)
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so sure of themselves, and the wiser people so full of doubts." Bertrand Russell
"The speaking in perpetual hyperbole is comely in nothing but love" Francis Bacon, Sr.
Voting is like driving a car- choose (D) to go forward- choose (R) to go backwards!
When all think alike, no one thinks very much. Albert Einstein

Offline rex6666

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (4)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2332
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2010, 07:00:02 AM »
Sounds like an excellent opportunity to start using some of those secret internment camps they've built with our tax dollars. ;)


Yea and some of those prison box cars, that only move at nite, except when
they use them to haul cars.

In my years of experience with folks i have come to believe that
when a man comes at me with a gun i have a very good idea what he is planning
to do. When a man comes at me with a Bible i have no idea what he is going
to do, at least the man with the gun is honest.
Rex
GOD GUNS and GUTS MADE AMERICA GREAT

Texas is good for men and dogs, but it is hell on women and horses.

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2010, 07:33:52 AM »
Todays news said  that some of those arrested were planning to kill police officers. We have the feds word on it. Sure means a lot to me, yeah right. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline wreckhog

  • Trade Count: (55)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2997
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2010, 07:35:06 AM »
No crime you say?

Christian terrorists like McVeigh perhaps.

Militia members charged with police-killing plot
     .
By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer Devlin Barrett, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 34 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Nine suspects tied to a Christian militia in the Midwest are charged with conspiring to kill police officers, then attack a funeral in the hopes of killing more law enforcement personnel, federal prosecutors said Monday.

U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade said agents moved on the group because the Hutaree members were planning a violent reconaissance mission sometime in April — just a few days away.

Members of the group called Hutaree are charged in the case, including their leader, David Brian Stone, also known as "Captain Hutaree."

Once other officers gathered for a slain officer's funeral, the group planned to detonate homemade bombs at the funeral, killing more, according to newly unsealed court papers.

According to the indictment, the idea of attacking a police funeral was one of numerous scenarios discussed as ways to go after law enforcement officers. Other scenarios included a fake 911 call to lure an officer to his or her death, or an attack on the family of a police officer.

After such attacks, the group allegedly planned to retreat to "rally points" protected by trip-wired improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, for what they expected would become a violent standoff with law enforcement personnel.

"It is believed by the Hutaree that this engagement would then serve as a catalyst for a more wide-sread uprising against the government," the indictment charges.

It includes charges of seditious conspiracy, possessing a firearm during a crime of violence, teaching the use of explosives, and attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction — homemade bombs.

The indictment charges members of the group conspired "to levy war against the United States, (and) to oppose by force the authority of the government of the United States."

The charges follow FBI raids over the weekend on locations in Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana.

According to investigators, the Hutaree view local, state, and federal law enforcement personnel as a "brotherhood" and an enemy, and planned to attack them as part of an armed struggle against the U.S. government.

Eight suspects have been arrested by the FBI, and one more is being sought. Of the eight captured, seven are due in court later Monday.

Andrew Arena, head of the FBI's field office in Detroit, said the case "is an example of radical and extremist fringe groups which can be found throughout our society. The FBI takes such extremist groups seriously, especially those who would target innocent citizens and the law enforcement officers who protect the citizens of the United States."

On its Web site, Hutaree quotes several Bible passages and states: "We believe that one day, as prophecy says, there will be an Anti-Christ. ... Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment."

The group didn't return an e-mail sent by The Associated Press and phone numbers for the group's leadership were not immediately available.

Law enforcement swarmed a rural, wooded property Saturday evening near Adrian, about 70 miles southwest of Detroit. Two ramshackle trailers sat side-by-side on the property, the door to one slightly ajar late Sunday as if it had been forced open.

Phyllis Brugger, who has lived in the area for more than 30 years, said some people who lived there were known as having ties to militia. They would shoot guns and often wore camouflage, according to Brugger and her daughter, Heidi Wood.

"Everybody knew they were militia," Brugger said. "You don't mess with them."

In Hammond, Ind., 18-year-old George Ponce, who works at a pizzeria next door to a home that was raided, said he and a few co-workers stepped outside for a break Saturday night and saw a swarm of law enforcement.

"I heard a yell, 'Get back inside!' and saw a squad member pointing a rifle at us," Ponce said. "They told us the bomb squad was going in, sweeping the house looking for bombs."

He said another agent was in the bushes near the house, and law enforcement vehicles were "all over." He estimated that agents took more than two dozen guns from the house.

In Ohio, one of the raids occurred at Bayshore Estates, a well-kept trailer park in Sandusky, a small city on Lake Erie between Toledo and Cleveland. Neighbors said the man taken into custody lived in a trailer on a cul-de-sac with his wife and two young children.

Offline beerbelly

  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1625
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2010, 08:01:07 AM »

Well we know the FBI would not lie to us . ::)  I notice they like the Muslim scum, put their offices next to children’s day care. That way they can hide behind the kids. Like they did in Oklahoma city!
                                                   Beerbelly

Offline teamnelson

  • Trade Count: (30)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4487
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2010, 08:15:06 AM »
The indictments don't match what I read on the website, not saying the FBI are wrong but innocent men have been indicted before. I'll wait and see before I agree with the media.
held fast

Offline myronman3

  • Moderator
  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4837
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2010, 08:18:59 AM »
Quote
Phyllis Brugger, who has lived in the area for more than 30 years, said some people who lived there were known as having ties to militia. They would shoot guns and often wore camouflage, according to Brugger and her daughter, Heidi Wood.

oh no!  not that!!!   FRY THEM!!!!

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2010, 08:30:42 AM »
If they were planning to murder police then they are no more Christian than mcveigh or that westboro cult. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline lgm270

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1862
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2010, 08:44:49 AM »
Eighty  American civilians at Waco Texas were murdered by the Federal government  in 1993 after the government staged a raid of their homes and church  based on search warrants that falsely said the Davidians were engaged in drug trafficking.  When those lies were exposed, the new pretext became illegal firearms and stockpiling ammunition.  When those lies were exposed, the  next pretext for government sanctioned mass murder was changed to protecting the "children."  Protecting the "children" is the last refuge of the left in justifying its massacres.

I have  personal knowledge of half a dozen trumped of criminal prosecutions against American citizens in California.  Their crime was opposing the Mexican invasion of the US by holding rallies, making public statements, etc.   Police lie like Hell when it suits their needs and falsely accusing innocent people  has a long history.  The left used to condemn police as "pigs", but  realized that  they can't have a police state without having police. Now the left postures as defenders of the police.

The full truth of these phony trumped up raids will probably never be known.   The bottom line is that they were white people who questioned authority and owned guns and that's all it takes to get your murdered by your own government in the America of today.    

Offline searlock

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 189
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2010, 09:35:01 AM »
lmg270 +1.  in world war two the french underground would be in groups of two people or only only one person.  these people that group together are just asking our government to infiltrate their ranks and take them at will.

Offline steve y

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 151
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2010, 10:07:21 AM »
No one knows how this will shake out yet. But if any of it is true then they will get what they deserve because there is no room for that in this country if we are to change how we deal with the direction our country is going. As powderman said they are not Christian. The only way we will affect change is to be non-violent. Once violence takes place then all reason goes out the window and the government will have license to do as they please in the name of security. Our founders gave us the means via the Constitution on how to make changes to our government through peaceful means. That is what we all hope to do in Nov. and any election after that. We have a responsibility to inform ourselves and our families and be good examples in our communities as to how a consitutional republic is suppose to work. We need to be involved with changing our political system within the system just how the progressives did. If they can do it in their direction then we can do it in a Constitutional direction. Above all we must be peaceful in all our doings in our life. We need to follow the model of Martin Luther King and Ghandi. They both evoked great change through non-violence and it worked. Steve

Offline beerbelly

  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1625
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2010, 10:15:04 AM »
We need to follow the model of Martin Luther King and Ghandi. They both evoked great change through non-violence and it worked. Steve
 
 
 
You follow their model, I had no use for eather one of the SOB's.
                                 Beerbelly

Offline lgm270

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1862
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2010, 10:23:33 AM »
No one knows how this will shake out yet. But if any of it is true then they will get what they deserve because there is no room for that in this country if we are to change how we deal with the direction our country is going. As powderman said they are not Christian. The only way we will affect change is to be non-violent. Once violence takes place then all reason goes out the window and the government will have license to do as they please in the name of security. Our founders gave us the means via the Constitution on how to make changes to our government through peaceful means. That is what we all hope to do in Nov. and any election after that. We have a responsibility to inform ourselves and our families and be good examples in our communities as to how a consitutional republic is suppose to work. We need to be involved with changing our political system within the system just how the progressives did. If they can do it in their direction then we can do it in a Constitutional direction. Above all we must be peaceful in all our doings in our life. We need to follow the model of Martin Luther King and Ghandi. They both evoked great change through non-violence and it worked. Steve

Gandhi?  Non violent?  Surely you jest.  Gandhi was decorated for his service in the British Army in the late 1890's in British operations against local natives.    Gandhi praised military training as contributing to the cultivation of manly virtues and criticized British gun control laws in force in India because they undermined Indian men by disarming them.  Gandhi supported WW1 and WW2 and actively helped the British recruit Indians into the British Army so that they could kill other white people.  Gandhi supported wars in which white people killed each other by the millions. He only opposed  violence by whites against his own kind.  

Gandhi was another phony leftist who preached poverty and humility and lived very well behind the scenes with under the table donations from business people whom he publicly condemned.  He had a lavish compound  and an Indian journalist and admirer said, ironically,  "It costs a lot of money for the Mahatma to live in poverty."  
Gandhi was right to assert the nationalist ambitions of his own people, but the image of him as a universal  advocate of "non-violence" is misleading and incomplete.    Indians owe far more to Adolph Hitler than to Gandhi for Indian Independence.  The British did not grant Indian independence because of "non-violence" by Gandhi, but because WW2 bankrupted the British Empire and they could not hold on to the Indian subcontinent any longer.  Actually, Hitler was very popular in non-white third world  British occupied countries.   Hitler was seen as an opponent of British imperialism and a source of inspiration for third world nationalists and Mein Kampf remains popular in those countries until this very day.

Martin Luther King?  King belonged to at least 60 communist front organizations, was a plaigerist, consorted with prostitutes (white prostitutes) and was being credibly accused of embezzling money from the SCLC. He was killed because he was about to become an embarrassment. A calculation was made that he was more valuable dead than alive.  But for his murder, we would not have a national holiday named for this Negro communist.   The so called Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a blatantly unconstitutional act that expanded federal jurisdiction and destroyed the rights of freedom of association.  It facilitated the infiltration and destruction of American institutions and freedoms.  Now we declined to a state of futility and national shame that we  have no national holiday named after a single American, but only a Negro communist who dedicated his life to destroying American institutions.   We are a defeated people and an occupied nation.

Offline myronman3

  • Moderator
  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4837
  • Gender: Male
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2010, 10:27:33 AM »
 
Quote
The only way we will affect change is to be non-violent. Once violence takes place then all reason goes out the window and the government will have license to do as they please in the name of security. Our founders gave us the means via the Constitution on how to make changes to our government through peaceful means.

  just remember.....  george washington did not use his first amendment rights to talk the british out; he shot the bastards.      anyone who lets their enemy define the rules is a damn fool.  and anyone who finds themselves in a fair fight has very poor combat tactics. 

Offline steve y

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 151
Re: Round Ups Begin in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2010, 11:29:30 AM »
I'm not talking about the personal lives of those people just the idea of what can be accomplished if we try to change things through the ballot box, peaceful demonstration and desent. You can see what happens to anyone that tries using force to make changes. How many men did they have in that group? Couple of dozen? What can you do with that many men? If you think you can fix our problems with an AR and a 1000 rounds of ammo you're nuts. The government has everything needed at it's disposal to do whatever they want. If you think you can go up against them in any kind of a show of force then more power to ya pal. That's not how we will make a better life for our children. All it will accomplish is dead bodies and zero freedom for all. The good thing about this country for now is we are free to choose how we want to live our lives. I will defend my family and my home to my death. I will not try to make changes in the way some advocate. Steve