Author Topic: Winchester Mod 94 30wcf (Read 1908 times)

brianscott12 · « **on:** April 01, 2010, 11:29:48 AM »

I have just traded up for a Mod 94 30wcf with serial number 132XXXX and I was wondering if anyone knew any thing about it. I traded a Marlin 22mag with scope for it. I cant wait to try her out. The only lever gun I've ever shot has been one of my Marlins. Here are some pics. This gun is in like new condition. Best Ive ever seen and not be new.

Wyo. Coyote Hunter · « **Reply #1 on:** April 01, 2010, 12:07:54 PM »

Brian, I am not up on my serial numbers for 94's but I have a couple made just before WW2,, they look much like yous...Only yours is in a bit better shape....I am not sure if my .30-30 is wcf or .30-30..Nice trade....

brianscott12 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 01, 2010, 12:12:46 PM »

Quote from: Wyo. Coyote Hunter on April 01, 2010, 12:07:54 PM

Brian, I am not up on my serial numbers for 94's but I have a couple made just before WW2,, they look much like yous...Only yours is in a bit better shape....I am not sure if my .30-30 is wcf or .30-30..Nice trade....

Thanks, from what I've read the 30wcf is just older terminoligy for a 30/30.

Wyo. Coyote Hunter · « **Reply #3 on:** April 01, 2010, 12:15:21 PM »

that is correct...I am not sure when the change occured...but that is how the older ones were marked...

Dee · « **Reply #4 on:** April 01, 2010, 01:52:12 PM »

According To the serial number you gave it was manufactured in 1982.

brianscott12 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 01, 2010, 01:56:42 PM »

82? Are you sure. Some of the info that I got said it was made around the beginnoing of WW2.

sachel.45 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 01, 2010, 02:55:16 PM »

try here just click on model 94 then put in your serial number
http://oldguns.net/sn_php/winmods.htm

brianscott12 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 01, 2010, 02:57:38 PM »

I believe that was the same sight that I went to.

Dee · « **Reply #8 on:** April 01, 2010, 02:58:46 PM »

I'll look again, I could have read it wrong.

Rangr44 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 01, 2010, 03:00:13 PM »

AFAIK, That M94 SN relates to the mid 1940's.

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Dee · « **Reply #10 on:** April 01, 2010, 03:12:49 PM »

On the site sachel.45 gave it will not take aserial number with letters. If you just enter the numbers you gave it says 1894. Don't think so. On a site which also does Savage, Marlin, ect, the 132XXXX serial number you gave indicates 1982. Ain't sayin it's right, but that what it says.

hillbill · « **Reply #11 on:** April 01, 2010, 03:16:47 PM »

nice buy and a family heirloom no matter when it was made.im normally a marlin man but some of the winnies ive seen here lately have givin me a hankering for one.

Dee · « **Reply #12 on:** April 01, 2010, 03:18:24 PM »

That's right hillbill, if it suits him, it doesn't have to suit anyone else.

brianscott12 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 01, 2010, 03:21:08 PM »

Either way. I can't wait to shoot it

Rangr44 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2010, 06:17:53 PM »

FWIW, 1982 production is said to have ended at about SN 5,103,248.

Here is the Win 94 resource from leverguns.com:

http://www.savage99.com/winchester1894_dates.htm

Dee · « **Reply #15 on:** April 01, 2010, 06:21:35 PM »

I checked that site first and it also said 1982, if you enter the serial number he gave. I just rechecked it, and got that it was manufactured AFTER 1982. I must have mis-read it.

brianscott12 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 01, 2010, 07:39:54 PM »

Quote from: Rangr44 on April 01, 2010, 06:17:53 PM

FWIW, 1982 production is said to have ended at about SN 5,103,248.

Here is the Win 94 resource from leverguns.com:

http://www.savage99.com/winchester1894_dates.htm

I entered my serial number in its entirety. I got 43-48.

LONGTOM · « **Reply #17 on:** April 01, 2010, 11:12:18 PM »

Well, we seem to be all over the place with this one.
according to my books serial # 132XXXX was made in the lost period, meaning there are no records from 1943 to 1948.
I also checked the site that was posted and it confirms.

LONGTOM

LONGTOM · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2010, 11:13:15 PM »

Well, we seem to be all over the place with this one.
According to my books serial # 132XXXX was made in the lost period, meaning there are no records from 1943 to 1948.
I also checked the site that was posted and it confirms.

LONGTOM

Dee · « **Reply #19 on:** April 02, 2010, 03:34:36 AM »

It's probably my error, and ya'll are most likely right.

brianscott12 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 02, 2010, 03:46:25 AM »

Nothin but athing Dee.

Dee · « **Reply #21 on:** April 02, 2010, 03:52:12 AM »

Lookin at the left side of that receiver, I notice it is NOT drilled and tapped for a receiver sight. Not sure when they started that. Mine was made in 1958, and it is drilled and tapped.

brianscott12 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 02, 2010, 04:01:07 AM »

I don't think I'll be drillin or tappin it either.

Sweetwater · « **Reply #23 on:** April 02, 2010, 10:20:57 AM »

Longtom +1

According to 'The Legacy of Lever Guns' Winter 2000, 1942 started at 1,287,469 and produced 29,981 making #1,317,450 the last of 1942 - your #132xxxx is 3,000 or so higher; my guess would be '43 or possibly '44, unless Winchester ceased all civilian production for the war years. Starting in 1949 at 1,500,001 is a clean break in numbers and probably meaningless in trying to interpolate where your piece fits in the puzzle.

You could request a letter from Cody, Wy and maybe they've dug up some further info on these "lost years".

Great looking rifle you've got there!!

30WCF is the "official designation" given by Winchester at origin. 30-30 was used around 1915 by Marlin. Catalogs of the period show Remington probably first coined the term 30-30 around 1901. (same source as above)

Rangr44 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 02, 2010, 01:26:33 PM »

[I notice it is NOT drilled and tapped for a receiver sight. Not sure when they started that.]

1952, IIRC - The 1,790,000 SN range for sure.

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Dee · « **Reply #25 on:** April 02, 2010, 01:30:31 PM »

Thanks Rangr.

Rangr44 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 02, 2010, 03:58:28 PM »

[I have just traded up for a Mod 94 30wcf with serial number 132XXXX and I was wondering if anyone knew any thing about it.]

This thread's very interesting, moreso in the light of going through one of my references, by Winchester Model 94 author Robert C. Renneberg.

According to Renneberg, it's documented that:

The last known Model 94 produced prior to WWII was in the 1,310,000 SN range.

The first known Model 94 produced after WWII was in the 1,350,000 SN range.

I think I'd want to contact whoever has access to the Winchester ledgers, to see when SN 1,32X,XXX was made/shipped - it COULD have some extra niche value, as being the first/last known pre/post WWII M94.................. Ya never know.

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brianscott12 · « **Reply #27 on:** April 02, 2010, 04:12:45 PM »

Ok, now I'm really confused. Where does this leave mine.

hillbill · « **Reply #28 on:** April 02, 2010, 04:40:21 PM »

im scroungin thru the gun safe rite now lookin for sumpin i can sell or trade for a winnie.i remember how easy and lite they are to carry.

zoner · « **Reply #29 on:** April 03, 2010, 03:49:46 AM »

FYI my 94 is fer shur a 1942....it is NOT drilled and tapped for a peep sight..