production longrifles

[jingle]

Hello,

Just getting back into blackpowder with the kids after a 20 year furlough. We've come up with a few deals so far. Who makes quality production/ semi-custom longrifles these days for under $1000? The names I remember from yesteryear seem to have vanished. I'm familiar with Tennessee Valley. Thats quite a testimony they are still alive. Of course, Pedersoli too. I'd like to stay in America, though. Thanks and God Bless.   

[Rangr44]

You might consider googling up Sitting Fox Muzzleloaders and Track of the Wolf, for starters - to give you a better handle on today's prices, first.

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[necchi]

That's a good idea, here's a link of Tracks guns for sale 
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/SubList.aspx?catID=12

[Rangr44]

FWIW, The famed Austin & Halleck Mountain Rifles are back.

Once upon a time, besides their modern inline muzzleloaders, Austin & Halleck made/sold a pretty fair Hawken rifle repro, called the Mountain Rifle.

It was only available in .50 cal, with a 32" octagonal bbl - but in either flint or cap lock.
Either flint or percussion barrels were made in both 1:28 conicals twist and a 1:66 round ball twist.
The stocks were also available is ascending grades of Tiger Maple.

I have a rocklock, myself:



Well, A&H closed their doors in 2006, and besides scarce, the price of  Mountain Rifles found lately have kept up pretty well.

I don't know why it took so long, but it appears that Tradtions has purchased the old stock of the A&H Mountain Rifles, and is offering them on their website at an astounding low price, considering their quality.

http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=R910060sk



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[mountainman09]

look into the lyman [great plains rifle ]or the deer stakler great guns for the money

[groundhog107]

One word of warning or advice on the Austin Halleck Mountain rifle.   I ordered one and recieved it but it is NOT as advertised.  It has Traditions markings on it as I understand that they were producing the hardware for AH at the end and the twist is NOT 1:48  as advertised rather it came 1:66 which was fine with me as I perfer roundball.  With that being said it shoots pretty good and is really a good value for the price.

HOG

[quickdtoo]

Thanks for the report HOG, and welcome! 

Tim

[groundhog107]

    Thanks Tim, I have been lurking a LONG time but figured it was time to add something to the conversation if possible.

[Dances with Geoducks]

Production guns are so far inferior to whats out there for $1000.

Ive been bore stuffing for many decades now. Ill never own another production gun again.

Jim Chambers makes the best flintlock kits around. You can get one done all the way to needing just to be finished.
(in the white)

http://www.flintlocks.com/

Muzzleloader Supply out of Ozark AR, is another great place. They have a little more selection. Thats where I got my parts from.

Track of the Wolf has similar stuff, I dont think you will get the quality craftsmanship as the two places above.

Research

http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showforum.php?fid/17/

[Rangr44]

That's nice, but some folks just don't have a $1000 to spend......................................   




[One word of warning or advice on the Austin Halleck Mountain rifle.   I ordered one and recieved it but it is NOT as advertised.  It has Traditions markings on it]

Welcome, HOG.  

BTW - FWIW, the rifles aren't advertized as A&H rifles, it's only on the Traditions website as the  "Mountain Rifle".

So, JMO, but it IS as advertized.

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[groundhog107]

Ranger you are correct about the Name on the rifle,  the twist however is clearly advertised as 1:48  and my gun is clearly marked 1:66 but as I said I prefer roundball.

Thanks for the welcome.

[coyotejoe]

The A&H Mountain rifle has smooth flowing lines which I like but it isn't a "longrifle" nor does it bear much resemblance to a Hawken or any other original ML rifle I have ever seen. I don't know what it is, it's just an A&H.
 I wouldn't pay much attention to the specifications listed by "Traditions", those specs also claim it comes with a 24 1/2" ramrod. The advertising cluck was probably selling shoes before hiring on with a gun importer and I doubt he or she even knows the meaning of the term "twist".

[groundhog107]

  without a doubt you are correct about the service reps.  The lines of the mountain rifle are handsome for sure.

[Forestclimber]

How about this:  Get a used T/C Hawken or Renegade.  Buy a Green Mountain drop-in roundball barrel and a Davis replacement trigger.  Sell the old barrel and trigger on this board or on Ebay.  I have one of these.  It shoots well, and is very economical.

[Swampman]

Green Mountain barrels are very hard to come by these days.  Getting a 1:66 barrel without paying extra is cool.  Much better than a 1:48.

[Ron T.]

I went through the same decision-making process about this time last year as what you're going through now... and I made a "wrong" decision.  I tried to save a buck by buying a competitively-priced production rifle when I should have gone with a bit more expensive rifle... either a semi-custom rifle or a really well-made production rifle like the Pedersoli who, I believe, also makes a couple of long rifles for Cabala's.

While I would have ended up spending TWICE the money... but I'd only spend it ONCE and I'd be a lot more satisfied with the rifle I have at this point rather than thinking about selling the production rifle I bought at a low price so it will sell and buying a better rifle.

LIke they say, "Hindsight is usually 100% accurate".   


Strength & Honor...

Ron T.

[coyotejoe]

No Ron, I can attest that "hindsight" is not always accurate either. One SHOULD learn from experience but I seem to make the same mistakes over and over.

[Rock Home Isle]

Hello,

Just getting back into blackpowder with the kids after a 20 year furlough. We've come up with a few deals so far. Who makes quality production/ semi-custom longrifles these days for under $1000? The names I remember from yesteryear seem to have vanished. I'm familiar with Tennessee Valley. Thats quite a testimony they are still alive. Of course, Pedersoli too. I'd like to stay in America, though. Thanks and God Bless.   

This is right at or just above your $1000.00 price limit.

I just recieved my .45 calibre Southern Kentucky Flintlock from TVM about 4 weeks ago. I ordered it last September at the Ft. Bridger "doins". Its a model that they sell "off the rack" at the rendezvous, but I was fortunate in that Richard let me order this style in a custom configuration. I absolutely love this gun...and they are such a pleasure to do business with.   

For several hundred less you can get a Pedersoli "Blue Ridge"...the carbine model is nice for younger shooters, as it's not as barrel heavy. I have a carbine in .54 calibre that is nice to carry and a great shooter. I also have a .50 calibre and .32 calibre matched pair in the "long rifle" style, but these needed a little more tweeking to get them to perform well. But still....

[Rock Home Isle]

You might consider googling up Sitting Fox Muzzleloaders and Track of the Wolf, for starters - to give you a better handle on today's prices, first.

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I'm not familiar with Sitting Fox Muzzleloaders, but I'm very familiar with Track. I love doing business with them, they are a quality establishment. What ever I need they have it and if they don't, they can usually tell me who does.

As an aside, if you're thinking of building your own. Depending on the length that you want, barrels might be a problem. Kinda hard getting barrels longer then 36" at the moment, lots of back orders on those items.