Author Topic: Obama has spies in Israel... (Read 2244 times)

ironglow · « **Reply #30 on:** April 10, 2010, 06:40:45 PM »

Wreckhog;
Your hatred of Israel gets you to say very irrational things ! Every nation ao any consequence has spies in every other nation of consequence..they would be stupid not to...just as stupid as telling terrorist supporting nations that they can attack us with chemical or biological WMD..and we will NEVER nuke them. It is much smarter to keep the idiots guessing...DUH!
You brilliance shows through, when you say Israel's borders are not legitimate, because the US never approved of them! Should we call on Israel, France, Latvia or Estonia to approve our borders ?

Contrary to what you think, the money we give Israel is an investment, and we often get much more than we give. We sell them armaments for hard money and evidently you forgot just who took care of Iran's last nuclear adventure for us.... The job may well be Israel's again, since we apparently have a gutless Muslim sympathizer an his willing puppets running our show.

Beerbelly; I am 73 now and in pretty good health but I can assure you, I am confident of my destination when this pilgrim's earthly trip is over.
...A word to the wise; I could sit here and claim that all brain surgeons are all fanatics, but nobody should take me too seriously...since I have never studied brain surgery. ...And Biblically, now your lack of study is showing ..

wreckhog · « **Reply #31 on:** April 10, 2010, 06:50:13 PM »

I have nothing against Israel. I just don't think that they have the right to do anything they want. We get nothing from Israel compared to what we give them. Actually they are a PITA a lot of the time.

powderman · « **Reply #32 on:** April 11, 2010, 04:38:25 AM »

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I have nothing against Israel. I just don't think that they have the right to do anything they want.

Wreckhog. All Israel wants is to live in peace but the Godless ones won't allow it. As long as the Godless ones live, there will be no peace. The Godless ones want peace??? All they have to do is quit attacking Gods people, quit shooting rockets at Israel, quit blowing up Jewish children, buy food, clothing, heating oil, instead of arms to kill innocents with. They need to learn to love their children more than they hate Gods people. They are satans disciples doing his work. POWDERMAN.

ShadowMover · « **Reply #33 on:** April 11, 2010, 07:56:51 AM »

Quote from: jimster on April 10, 2010, 04:18:31 PM

Isin't Jerusalem the capital of Israel? Well, what's anybody telling Israel what to do in their own capital anyway?

I do believe the capital is Tel Aviv, but why let facts get in the way?

I must modify my statement. Israel says their capital is Jerusalem (1950), but most other countries don't recognize it as such and maintain embassies in Tel Aviv.

powderman · « **Reply #34 on:** April 11, 2010, 11:50:42 AM »

Gods Holy city, Jeruselum, has been infested with muslims, they don't belong there, period. Israel has the right to build all over Jeruselum, they own it. Osama is doing everything he can to help his Godless brothers, destroy Israel, and America. Thats osamas goal. I hope Israel tells osama to take a hike and builds 10,000 new homes. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #35 on:** April 11, 2010, 01:11:48 PM »

it doesn't seem outrageous to ask that the guys in the green countries just leave the solitary redspeck of land in peace. Or put another way..JUST LEAVE IT ALONE..

ironglow · « **Reply #36 on:** April 11, 2010, 01:29:15 PM »

Last picture was ineffective, try this one !
Perhaps if the guys in those vast green territories would get up off their collective butts and start applying their efforts toward Agriculture, science, industry, medicine and commerce instead of gang warfare; they may find they didn't need that little red speck near so much as they thought they did.

powderman · « **Reply #37 on:** April 11, 2010, 01:33:59 PM »

IRONGLOW. It's not land the Godless ones want, they have more land now than they know what to do with. It's blood they want, not land. Destroy Gods people, their God, satan, wins. Aint gonna happen. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #38 on:** April 11, 2010, 02:56:00 PM »

PM:
There is another evident story here... Look at every nation on that green portion of the map. Which of them beats that little red speck when it comes to the agriculture, science, industry, medicine and commerce of which I spoke ? In fact, does that whole green area equal that little red speck in those categories ?

billy_56081 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 11, 2010, 03:30:58 PM »

All these Israel haters need to send some omoney to Glenn Miller who is running as a write in for senator in Missouri. He says the exact same things as TM, "jews are secretly controlling the world" and so on. He claims membership in the Klan. I have to say at least he is honest about his hatred and affiliations. How about you hate mongers, will you all support him and be as honest with your racist affiliations?

powderman · « **Reply #40 on:** April 11, 2010, 03:40:31 PM »

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Which of them beats that little red speck when it comes to the agriculture, science, industry, medicine and commerce of which I spoke ?

IG. None of them can, or even try to compete with the important things. I watched John Hagee a few months back giving money to various humanitarian groups in Israel. His church donated millions of $ for the betterment of mankind.
HEH, I even took my glasses of and STILL can't see that little red dot you allude to, I'll have to take your word that it's there. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #41 on:** April 12, 2010, 07:45:07 AM »

PM;
The second pic I posted works better (it enlarges)

Billy..Does this glen miller guy wear an aluminum chapeau ?

powderman · « **Reply #42 on:** April 12, 2010, 08:22:57 AM »

IRONGLOW. HEH. I can see it now. With Israel having such a huge land mass I can see why it's so important to the Godless ones to have it. It actually has nothing to do with the Jews, the Godless ones need room to expand. I understand now. Thanks for clearing that up. POWDERMAN.

wreckhog · « **Reply #43 on:** April 12, 2010, 10:22:57 AM »

Israel is the size of NJ. Imagine the uproar if NJ were to claim NYC!

powderman · « **Reply #44 on:** April 12, 2010, 12:50:29 PM »

Quote from: wreckhog on April 12, 2010, 10:22:57 AM

Israel is the size of NJ. Imagine the uproar if NJ were to claim NYC!

I doubt nj has the Bible to back them up, or Gods blessing, Israel does. Even when it's right in your face some of you can't seem to see Gods divine hand on Israel. Wake up guys. POWDERMAN.

jimster · « **Reply #45 on:** April 12, 2010, 12:57:07 PM »

What in the world are you guys talking about? NYC and NJ is being compared to Israel???

Your kidding me right? Israel has more history and sprituality than any place in history, and it was strong enough to cross every body of water and flow into almost every nook and cranny on earth.
And I didn't hear anyone complaining when Rome took it from the jews...oh ya...I forgot, most people can only think back a few years...please forgive me.

We even have people on here that try to tell Israel what their capital is...and where their boders are, all through time this has been happening to them.
The executive, judicial, and legislative headquarters of Israel are all in Jerusalem so Jerusalem is indeed the de facto capital of the state of Israel. I don't think I would want the world or the corrupt United Nations telling our country what is the capital either...De Facto the capital is Jerusalem because that’s where the government meets. The rest of the world has nothing to say...and no...they can't just tell Israel their capital is Tel Aviv...any more than they could tell us what ours is. The jewish people know what their capital is.

If anyone thinks they can tell Israel what to do and where their borders are and what their capital is...go for it...but it won't work out so well. Comparing NJ and NYC to Israel is just plain insane. Jerusalem has a history that goes back to 4th millennium BC ....and guess who was there...the Jews. Get used to it.

FourBee · « **Reply #46 on:** April 12, 2010, 01:53:28 PM »

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Jerusalem is indeed the de facto capital of the state of Israel.
because that’s where the government meets.

Thanks jimster; I never gave it much attention before, and never thought to look it up to see where the Israeli government actually assemble.

Good Post

powderman · « **Reply #47 on:** April 12, 2010, 02:25:01 PM »

JIMSTER. YEP. POWDERMAN

ironglow · « **Reply #48 on:** April 12, 2010, 03:44:22 PM »

Jimster;
You got it !! Much as some hate Israel and the Jews, their hatred won't change history ..or the future "history" ! God will bless..you know who..you, pm, Fourbee, Billy and all the others here who know the truth of God..

The others..take their chances..then pay their dues..
Rather like that old oil filter commercial where the mechanic says. " You can pay me now..or pay me later"....

powderman · « **Reply #49 on:** April 12, 2010, 05:01:04 PM »

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The others..take their chances..then pay their dues..

YEP, and pay they will. POWDERMAN.

FourBee · « **Reply #50 on:** April 12, 2010, 05:22:42 PM »

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The others..take their chances..then pay their dues..

Or like the scripture says: "the wages of sin is death"
You have to work to earn death. Like finding something to steal, or someone to murder, or intentionallly making up a lie. But it continues to say: "but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." No work, just a gift from the one and only God that so loves the world.

Dee · « **Reply #51 on:** April 13, 2010, 02:31:38 AM »

Well there is something to be said about those that don't believe Israel has the right to occupy the land, but there is something to be said about those, that harass and condemn, those folks also, as none of us are appointed to judge them. Judge their sin yes, but not them PERSONALLY. As someone recently said: That is above our pay grade. Contentiousness and strife comes many times from BOTH sides of the isle, and God Himself has some feeling about that also, so when one points his finger, he should take a look and realize there are three fingers pointed back at himself.

Christ said in Matthew Chapter 12 verses 36 & 37. But I say unto you. That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37. For BY THY WORDS THOU SHALT BE JUSTIFIED, and BY THY WORDS THOU SHALT BE CONDEMNED.

Those words were for everyone. Especially for those that like to taunt, and make fun of. From both sides.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #52 on:** April 13, 2010, 04:02:43 AM »

I read all this and its funny how some hate Israel so much . I admire their strength and will to survive . We forget that the Jews went where they were told to go. As far as spies - bet they have theirs here and else where . Not sure of the truth but have heard that most of the computers that route calls / computer traffic in the U S are located in Israel. seems its not aginst their law to listen / watch . Roll that around in your brain for a few mins. The ties may be deeper that we know .

billy_56081 · « **Reply #53 on:** April 13, 2010, 05:06:31 AM »

But TM Glenn says the EXACT same things as you do. So are you going to support him in his bid for senate? At least Glenn is open and honest.

powderman · « **Reply #54 on:** April 13, 2010, 08:23:34 AM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on April 13, 2010, 05:06:31 AM

But TM Glenn says the EXACT same things as you do. So are you going to support him in his bid for senate? At least Glenn is open and honest.

Fair question. POWDERMAN.

BBF · « **Reply #55 on:** April 13, 2010, 10:03:34 AM »

Quote from: FourBee on April 12, 2010, 05:22:42 PM

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The others..take their chances..then pay their dues..

Or like the scripture says: "the wages of sin is death"
......... But it continues to say: "but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

So exactly what does that mean for the afterlife of an devout Jew??

Dee · « **Reply #56 on:** April 13, 2010, 10:18:03 AM »

That means that Jew or not, if they have not accepted Christ as their Savior, they are hell bound. No exceptions.

BBF · « **Reply #57 on:** April 13, 2010, 11:17:56 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on April 13, 2010, 11:08:39 AM

Quote from: powderman on April 13, 2010, 08:23:34 AM
Quote from: billy_56081 on April 13, 2010, 05:06:31 AM
But TM Glenn says the EXACT same things as you do. So are you going to support him in his bid for senate? At least Glenn is open and honest.

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BBF....most pertinent and direct question to be answered by resident experts....
Think they'll be any takers on that question...?

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We got one fair reply so far, from the Christian point of view.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #58 on:** April 13, 2010, 11:54:09 AM »

So TM being you are admitting what Glenn Miller is saying is "hate speech" does that make what you say also "hate speech"? You both use the EXACT same words and phrases.

Will you send him money to support his campaign?

FourBee · « **Reply #59 on:** April 13, 2010, 02:24:35 PM »

Quote from: BBF on April 13, 2010, 10:03:34 AM

Quote from: FourBee on April 12, 2010, 05:22:42 PM
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The others..take their chances..then pay their dues..

Or like the scripture says: "the wages of sin is death"
......... But it continues to say: "but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

So exactly what does that mean for the afterlife of an devout Jew??

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Posted by: Dee
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That means that Jew or not, if they have not accepted Christ as their Savior, they are hell bound. No exceptions.

John 3:1
1 ¶ There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
John 3:2
The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Nicodemus accepted Jesus as the Christ and was saved.