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45 70 Shorty
« on: April 14, 2010, 01:46:20 PM »
Anybody cut down a standard 45 70 to a shorty?  Just curious how much velocity penalty there is after lobbing off five inches of a 22" barrel.  Dreaming of a handier handi for pig hunting.  Any photos or range reports are much appreciated. 

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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2010, 02:11:56 PM »
With the bore expansion ratio on the 45-70, wouldn't make a lot of difference.  No hog will ever know the loss in velocity. ;)  DP
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2010, 03:46:40 PM »
I took 4" off my H&R 45-70 barrell to improve balance for my short arms.  With factory 405 lfn it is still an elk rifle out to 100 yds.  With a 3.1 lee dipper full of Traiboss under a 405 solid lead slug it is a plinking rifle at the same distance and kicks about like my .223.  I shot 75 of this load last weekend in one day, no big recoil just a lot of fun.  I am working on a braided latigo sling for it now.

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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2010, 05:26:03 PM »
blindhari, better send me that sling to check out for ya, wouldn't want it to break on ya or nuthin.  I'll test it out for a couple of years and let ya know. ;) ;D  DP
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2010, 06:04:48 PM »

 Thays real offer you made DP, I'll bet he doesn't take you up on the offer. :D
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2010, 01:53:13 AM »
Geeezze, DP, now I gots to look up what "bore expansion ratio" means.  I just want to shoot my guns & you folks keep tryin' to make me learn stuff.   Almost feels like I am back in school. ;D

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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2010, 02:07:46 AM »
do you know the cup rating for the 45-70 rounds from buffalo arms? or care to guess at them?
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2010, 02:11:19 AM »
Buffalo Bore, Stickly Big Bore, Strickly Business?  Not sure but I believe their website said it is lever gun ammo, Modern Marlin, so I think that be around 40,000.
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2010, 04:25:33 AM »
dpe.ahoy

Taint real hard to do.  I use four strands of 1/2" latigo in a standard pigtail braid a little loose.  Than I go back and use a copper rivet at every other ladder to hold the braid and give a little stiffeness to the sling.  It's still a little loose but that just lets it go to the shoulder shape of whoever is using it.  I have a Navajo friend here who is a saddlemaker and keeps me supplied.  When I made one for him as payback I worked in some buffalo nickel conchos as decorations.

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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2010, 06:52:47 AM »
Sounds like great work.  My talents lie in other areas, hope to find those areas some day :P :-[ :-\ ;D  DP
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2010, 09:51:15 AM »
DP,

I understand one of your talents is cutting down barrels for your friends  here on GBO.

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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2010, 10:50:14 AM »
I have a 45-70 that I cut off to 18 inches.  I load to upper end trap door levels.  I can't tell that the 4 inches I cut off of the barrel did anything but make it easier to handle in a tree stand.  It won't keep a slug inside of any deer that I've shot with it, so it didn't hurt velocity enough to matter.
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2010, 11:16:49 AM »
Me, with a barrel and a hacksaw? :o  Wouldn't ever let it happen, it would be a disaster! :'(  I'm a measure twice, cut it wrong kinda guy. :-[  DP
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2010, 11:49:25 AM »
Dang, cut it twice and it is still to short. :D Reason someone else built my last house.   :P
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2010, 01:15:38 PM »
The flip side is being a frustrated obsessive-compulsive perfectionist. 25yrs and counting on my house and it still isnt close to 'done'.
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2010, 02:21:00 PM »
Quote from: bikerbeans on April 14, 2010, 01:46:20 PM
Anybody cut down a standard 45 70 to a shorty?  Just curious how much velocity penalty there is after lobbing off five inches of a 22" barrel. 

Thanks

BB

BB,
I used a 16.5" barreled 45/70 to take down a Bison with one shot using handloaded 405gr. Rem. bullets at 1650FPS. Have no fear, it will do the job for you!
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2010, 02:51:13 PM »
Big Blue,

That's what I wanted to here!  The 405 SP Remingtons are my favority reload bullet for this caliber.  If it will take out a N. American Bison then should be just fine on a 200# feral hog.

Can you post a photo?

thanks

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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2010, 03:50:47 PM »
Texas hog goes down right easy from a .357 mag Winchester trapper.  (16" barrell/125 grain Buffalo Bore)  I want to see if my short Handi in 45-70 will skin and clean it all in one shot.  Going with my brother in law later this year. 

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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2010, 04:20:31 PM »
Apologies to Lonesome Dove,"Saloon wall wont stop a 45-70, but a hog will."
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2010, 04:57:58 PM »
blindhari,

10-4 on the Texas hog huntin'.  My kid is headed to Shepard AFB for flight training the end of May and will be there for a year.  I'm looking for places to hunt now so when I visit he & I can take my (2) 45 70s and try and punch holes in ole Arnold Ziffel.

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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2010, 05:10:54 PM »
Quote from: blindhari on April 15, 2010, 04:25:33 AM
dpe.ahoy

Taint real hard to do.  I use four strands of 1/2" latigo in a standard pigtail braid a little loose.  Than I go back and use a copper rivet at every other ladder to hold the braid and give a little stiffeness to the sling.  It's still a little loose but that just lets it go to the shoulder shape of whoever is using it.  I have a Navajo friend here who is a saddlemaker and keeps me supplied.  When I made one for him as payback I worked in some buffalo nickel conchos as decorations.

blindhari

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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2010, 06:13:12 PM »
If I could figure out how to get a photo on here I would do so.  In the last year I have put in over 300 posts and still can't figure photos, half the time i can't even figure out email photos on the net.  it took over 9 months to find the stickys.  You might say I am one of those individuals who remain computer challenged.  I once took a Commodore 64, tied on a rope, then used it for an anchor while fishing for striped bass.  My wife and I were married less than 5 years when I got the message "syntax error" once too often and shot putted an early IBM through the screen on an open window.  We celebrate 30 years together next year.  I really wonder how she has put up with me.  I have a smaller latigo sling on a 4 pound 20 ga breech loader I brought back from junkyard condition.  This is what I throw in the jeep for off road.  Send me an email address and I will try to send an attachment photo, at least that works half the time.  Unfortunately the jpg has to be dumbed down to to 2 meg or less.

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ps  I read the sticky on photos and I am still lost, what I really need is someone who will walk me through it over the phone.  PM me a phone # and a time to call, I am more than willing to call on my dime any one who will help me.
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2010, 06:27:15 PM »
i  couldn't find my old post
if any one can....post the link to it

i chronographed  2 factory loads
then  cut  to  16.5  inches
chronographed again


lost about  100 fps
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2010, 05:04:14 AM »
Wow, Is that all. Propbably somewhat depends on the burning rate of the powder used, too, for reloads. 
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2010, 01:25:57 PM »
Getting off the pot on this one.  Just removed scope (1x3x20 weaver) & base, stripped and painted both flat black.  Rear sight is history, making a filler screw for the barrel.  Barrel is marked @ 18 1/4".  Going to read FAQs nine more times.  Will cut it off this weekend and go from there.  Should look a little different when done, the wood furniture is off a pre 87' (skinny barrel) 357/20ga combo.  Straight stock, no pistol grip.  Worst case is the gunsmith will have a couple inches left to fix the barrel and still keep me legal.  Thanks for everyones comment and advice.


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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2010, 02:42:17 PM »
BB,
Here's the Bison and skull. I'll see if I can get a photo of the mount up here shortly. It's done, but I haven't gotten it yet. The hole in the center of the skull is from a .357 revolver I used for the coup de grāce.
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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2010, 03:25:34 PM »
Nice! :D

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MINE:  270W, 308x444, 44 Bodeen, 410 shorty rifled slug gun, 445 SuperMag Shikari, 45 ACP shorty,  45-70 Shikari, 45 Cal Smokeless MZ, 50cal 24" SS Sidekick, 50 cal 24" Huntsman, 50 cal 26" Huntsman, 50 cal 26" Sidekick, 50-70 Govt Shikari, Tracker II 20 ga shorty, 20 ga VR Pardner, 20ga USH, 12ga VR NWTF, 12ga Tracker II shorty WITHOUT scope, 12ga USH, 10 ga  Pardner Smoothbore slug gun & 24ga Profino Custom rifled slug gun.

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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2010, 05:41:23 PM »
I'm with ya on the photo posting blindhari. :P  Tim has even explained to me how to do the quote thing twice, think I can get that to work? :-\   Drug kickin and screamin into this computer age, and still kickin and screamin. :-[ ;D  (Even my drawings of stick people suck.) ::)  Who wooda thunk a 357 was a buffler gun!  DP
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Handi's:22Shot, 22LR, 2-22Mag, 22Hornet, 5-223, 2-357Max, 44 mag, 2-45LC, 7-30 Waters, 7mm-08, 280, 25-06, 30-30, 30-30AI, 444Marlin, 45-70, AND 2-38-55s, 158 Topper 22 Hornet/20ga. combo;  Levers-Marlins:Two 357's, 44 mag, 4-30-30s, RC-Glenfields 36G-30A & XLR, 3-35 Rem, M-375, 2-444P's, 444SS, 308 MX, 338Marlin MXLR, 38-55 CB, 45-70 GS, XS7 22-250 and 7mm08;  BLR's:7mm08, 358Win;  Rossi: 3-357mag, 44mag, 2-454 Casull; Winchesters: 7-30 Waters, 45Colt Trapper; Bolt actions, too many;  22's, way too many.  Who says it's an addiction?

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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2010, 11:53:30 AM »
Barrel is now 18 7/16" long.  Crown reworked but not yet re-blued.  Going to range in AM to see what I have done to my gun!  So far has cost me a $0.88 wallyworld hacksaw blade, a $2.49 grinding stone & about $1.50 worth of emory paper to do this project.  Took about 45 minutes.  If I had went to 18" would be too short for my gun cabinet. ;)

Looks like putting this gun together just in time.  Going to SE Ohio with a friend weekend after next to look for feral hogs.  No photos, digi-camera much smarter than I am.

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MINE:  270W, 308x444, 44 Bodeen, 410 shorty rifled slug gun, 445 SuperMag Shikari, 45 ACP shorty,  45-70 Shikari, 45 Cal Smokeless MZ, 50cal 24" SS Sidekick, 50 cal 24" Huntsman, 50 cal 26" Huntsman, 50 cal 26" Sidekick, 50-70 Govt Shikari, Tracker II 20 ga shorty, 20 ga VR Pardner, 20ga USH, 12ga VR NWTF, 12ga Tracker II shorty WITHOUT scope, 12ga USH, 10 ga  Pardner Smoothbore slug gun & 24ga Profino Custom rifled slug gun.

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Re: 45 70 Shorty
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2010, 05:37:29 PM »
Should make an excellent hog gun.  Good luck!


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