I took a doe at just around a hundred yds. this winter using a 14" 7x30 Waters Contender , clean broadside shot-aimed clean at the heart,touched it off,deer hunched up as if I'd kicked her in the guts,went nose in the snow for just 10 feet-stone dead ! I'd say the do the trick. My advice-Load em'-shoot em'-love em' Just my 2c Shane