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Re: new bronze
« Reply #330 on: June 17, 2010, 06:39:57 AM »
Well,
Now my head is so big it won't fit throught the door. :o
Thanks for everyone's confidence.
Gary, what scale is the barrel?
I've traded a couple of emails with Spuddy but no decisions have been made.  Making a #1 carriage is very involved no matter what scale it is.  It is extremely hard to estimate hours in a project like this.  I'm sure Gary can testify to that. :-\
If I knew the scale, I could better figure out what size everything would need to be.
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #331 on: June 17, 2010, 07:44:02 AM »
Well,
Now my head is so big it won't fit throught the door. :o
Thanks for everyone's confidence.
Gary, what scale is the barrel?
I've traded a couple of emails with Spuddy but no decisions have been made.  Making a #1 carriage is very involved no matter what scale it is.  It is extremely hard to estimate hours in a project like this.  I'm sure Gary can testify to that. :-\
If I knew the scale, I could better figure out what size everything would need to be.
Zulu Big Head

Maybe Gary can cast a resin model from his mold for Big Head.... Err Zulu.... this way the irons will work,
also by having a model on hand if Gary makes more of these for other people he can recomend you as carraige
Maker and you won't have to have barrels shipped to you each time just a thought.

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Re: new bronze
« Reply #332 on: June 17, 2010, 07:54:04 AM »
Catch of the day


Also the wax spearpoint /linstock ......in bronze .  8)

your morko Victor  ;D yes I know the writing does look kinda .....not that good .  ???







V3 you really want it looking like this ?

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Re: new bronze
« Reply #333 on: June 17, 2010, 08:25:27 AM »
Zulu it was very nice of you to take on this project . I didnt make it to any scale .

When I began the project I intended to cast it myself so I estamated how big I could make it and still have a big enough cooling bell . I figures 15 lbs for the barrel and nearly that much for the bell .

Its a bit over 15 inches long BUT scale proly wouldnt do much good anyway as I've never seen the trunions I just made them 'look' good to me .

I can send you exact drawing with trunion spaces length of trunions ,dia.  .

Gary

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Re: new bronze
« Reply #334 on: June 17, 2010, 08:58:14 AM »
Zulu it was very nice of you to take on this project . I didnt make it to any scale .

When I began the project I intended to cast it myself so I estamated how big I could make it and still have a big enough cooling bell . I figures 15 lbs for the barrel and nearly that much for the bell .

Its a bit over 15 inches long BUT scale proly wouldnt do much good anyway as I've never seen the trunions I just made them 'look' good to me .

I can send you exact drawing with trunion spaces length of trunions ,dia.  .

Gary
Rocklock,
I didn't take on the project yet.  
How long was the original barrel?  If I know this I can scale for wheel size.
I'm still trying to figure out how many hours I could end up with in a #1 carriage.  It could be a lot.
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #335 on: June 17, 2010, 10:21:19 AM »
Zulu , the origanal are 59.3" The spud gun is 15.5"
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #336 on: June 17, 2010, 10:37:26 AM »
so its 26% of the original size , or roughly 1/4 scale
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #337 on: June 17, 2010, 10:50:18 AM »
So,
59.3 divided by 15.5 = 3.826
3.826 = 1"
a #1 wheel is 57" diameter
57 divided by 3.826 = 14.9
So, a wheel could be made at 15'"diameter
a #1 trail is 92.1" long
92.1 divided by 3.826 = 24.07"
So a trail could be made at 24" long.
I lay no claim to mathamatics.
Does anyone see any fault in my reasoning?  I think rounding off is okay.
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #338 on: June 17, 2010, 11:06:42 AM »
Zulu BravoHotel , I too am no number cruncher  :'( 

It looks good to me .


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Re: new bronze
« Reply #339 on: June 17, 2010, 11:19:17 AM »
Zulu BravoHotel , I too am no number cruncher  :'( 

It looks good to me .


Gary

Ditto

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Re: new bronze
« Reply #340 on: June 17, 2010, 01:49:04 PM »
I'm a bit of a number cruncher, and see nothing wrong with yours.  I agree that rounding shouldn't cause a significant difference, unless you try to calculate everything out individually then round each dimension (the rounding will require you to make some slight adjustments throughout the design, which is probably easier to do as you fit each part together).

Gary,

The text on Victor's Morko will probably look better after you do some cleanup of the gonne (I think you may have overcompensated for the faintness in mine).

Did the linstock head turn out close enough to a finished-out-of-cast part as you hoped?  Did you do a buttcap for it as well?  I'd like to see some more of it.

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Re: new bronze
« Reply #341 on: June 18, 2010, 10:15:44 AM »
Yes here it is  ;D I only had time to give it a quick fluff ands sanding to clean it up .



Here is the slomatch holder


Dixies slowmatch fits nice and tight


No buttcap yet .
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #342 on: June 18, 2010, 11:09:43 AM »
 ;D Vic3 the torpedo is loose ! running straight and true .....to you B4 12 tomorrow . ;D

I hope you like it .

Gary
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #343 on: June 18, 2010, 12:00:32 PM »
I suppose it would be good for proper Burn's Night Supper when you should actually stab the Haggis, and you will get a bit of smoke from the slowmatch.     
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #344 on: June 18, 2010, 01:01:20 PM »
It turned out good Gary!  It looks like something that just about anyone with a few files and some sandpaper could finish into a really nice looking piece in an afternoon, even quicker with a grinder/buffer.  What's the M at the top of your mark indicate?  I don't remember seeing it before.

Was Vic going to do the drilling and finishing on his?  It doesn't seem like it's been out of the oven long enough to be getting shipped out already, though I'm sure it goes quicker once you've done one. 

Have you done Dan's Morko yet?  I'd love to see a side by side shot with the original, if he can pursuade the museum curator to let him to that!

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Re: new bronze
« Reply #345 on: June 18, 2010, 02:02:04 PM »
I put my dads first initial on top Martin . By lucky coincident it is aslo my middle initial is M too for ...yep Martin .

But my normal mark wont have it .

It is something that just about anyone with a few simple tools could finish .

Yes I do have Dans Morko , and I guess i'm spilling the beans but his is next to do !
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #346 on: June 18, 2010, 09:06:16 PM »
 Morko.... Morko.... Hmmm....

 Wait a minute, you mean I actually won that drawing for a free one???

 You da man, Gary!
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #347 on: June 21, 2010, 12:33:06 PM »




Here is your gun spud .



Almost Ready to see Tim
sorry I took the movie becuase I guess my photobucket is open to anyone when I post the movie .
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #348 on: June 21, 2010, 12:52:50 PM »
well now she aint a virgin any longer   ;D

I found another very interesting photo gary , whats this ??
just an idea or something more serious ??
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #349 on: June 21, 2010, 02:11:35 PM »
Tim ,The Tater Has Flown , 2 days . ;D

Yes as I only drew that last night and it has already made it to sweden .......



this is the current rev.
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #350 on: June 21, 2010, 02:44:41 PM »
NOOOOOOO

found it in your photobucket album  ;D
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #351 on: June 21, 2010, 02:50:39 PM »
So Gary is a ratermite?  He must be, since it was in his Photobucket account!

Interesting drawing.  Is it full scale?  About 1" bore?

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Re: new bronze
« Reply #352 on: June 21, 2010, 04:05:21 PM »
I am a "Basher" where the hell you bean  ;D

Criky , I dont think we even have a position of 'ratermite , BUT if the moneys right .........I could be interested  :D .

It is shown full 1/6th scale ,1 inch bore .

No position called Ratermite , but that might be a good name for the howie . I based it on Ruskie gun arcitecture .

"Ratermite" 6 inch varriety .

Hey Tom how would the Dragon spell this in commie ?  ;D . I can say that ,maybe .....As I've talked to the  Dragon .... she was a butterfly to me , and she has one sweet accent !  Like the old Bond movies ladies .
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #353 on: June 21, 2010, 10:49:07 PM »
ooooooo dear !   another lamb to the slaughter.  o I'm just a sweet little russian girl......all alone in this wide wide world......  butterfly...   only carnivorous butterfly I ever heard of. Glad to see you are back on track with your true vocation Muskie, edged weapons are for bladesmiths.....you is a barrel basher....par excellence. Another carriage for zulu?
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #354 on: June 23, 2010, 10:49:14 AM »
Finally working on Dans gun .





The socket is now flush for machining ,looking good .

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Re: new bronze
« Reply #355 on: June 23, 2010, 12:01:01 PM »
WOW   :-[
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #356 on: June 24, 2010, 04:41:02 PM »
I received my 1838 from Rocklock today.  It looks amazing in pictures.  It is unbelieveable in my hands.  I need to decide on a carriage for it.  I remember the first time I came across this board.  I was impressed by the knowledge contained here. I have gotten to get to know a few of you and never would have believed how generous you would become with your information and abilities.  Thanks for that.  Thank you Gary for a great cannon.
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #357 on: June 24, 2010, 05:10:01 PM »
Most welcome Tim . ;D
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Re: new bronze
« Reply #358 on: June 27, 2010, 04:35:14 PM »
after two days off I got some more done on Dans Morko . I think I dumbed thumbed the pics into the Ozone somewhere >:(  ...the the socket is drilled . Hopfully tomorrow the bore and vent will be done .

Gary

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Re: new bronze
« Reply #359 on: June 27, 2010, 05:47:24 PM »
I was busy today too...guess what I did...the Morko has a shaft!   ;D

It's not quite done yet, though, so no pics yet...