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Offline jlwilliams

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crackshot/ favorite questions
« on: April 18, 2010, 03:13:52 AM »
  A friend of mine has a Stevens crackshot basket case, missing a few parts.  I'm thinking about offering to buy it from him but I'm scouting around for the parts first.  My question is, do the Favorite parts interchange wth Crackshots?

 

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Re: crackshot/ favorite questions
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2010, 03:17:24 AM »
Re reading my post, I think I should probably be more specific about which parts are missing.  The Crackshot is missing the breach block and the takedown screw.  The screw is no big deal, I can improvise that easily enough.  The breach block I really need to find one or it's not worth starting the project. 

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Re: crackshot/ favorite questions
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2010, 04:03:22 AM »
Don't know much about the Crackshot/Favorites, but I do know they have made many variations over the years.  Some are 100 years old(?) and some have been recently made.

The one thing they all have in common is they are single shots!  I seem to recall reading somewhere that the new Crackshots resemble the old Favorites (or vice versa), but I'm pretty sure none of the old/new parts will interchange.

It may be a real challenge finding the correct parts, but that's just a guess.

When I see a gun like that I always wonder how someone could "lose" such a vital part - it seems about like "misplacing" the transmission in your car!!
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Re: crackshot/ favorite questions
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2010, 05:02:52 AM »
  I often wonder how things like that come apart too.  Maybe they got taken apart to be cleaned or repaired by someone who for whatever reason never got back to the project.  Another pet theory I have when I see this sort of thing is that there was something else wrong with the gun and the good part was taken off to be used on another gun, so the whole basket case I'm looking at may be crap.  Never know until you really dig into a project what you've got.  I've picked up a few that were bags of snakes, and I have a couple of prized shooters that came to me in a shoebox.  That's what keeps me messing with them.  Sometimes I save one and it will go on for another generation, cause guns can and will last longer than one life time.

  I knew an excentric guy who did that to bunches of motorcycles (taking them apart I mean, not fixing them for future generations).  I saw him on a rare flat head Triumph one day.  He stopped and told me all about it.  Complete bike with all the RAF boxes and stuff on it.  Made for around the airfield transport for the Brit military.  Original paint, running and driving, all that.  A couple weeks later I dropped by his shop, he'd taken it apart for reasons unknown.  When I helped him move a few years later. I found parts of the bike in three outbuildings and the boxes under an empty schoolbus.  Real shame, that.

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Re: crackshot/ favorite questions
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2010, 07:15:25 AM »
I have an old family "Favorite" from my wife's folks and another Favorite barrel and reciever. I forget where I picked up the extra barrel and reciever buy everything else is missing. Another case of someone taking it apart and losing the parts most likely. One time I was given a nice reciever for a modern Remington 12 gauge 870, I gave that to a gunsmith friend of mine but have no idea how a nice piece like that was seperated from the rest of the parts....<><....:)
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Re: crackshot/ favorite questions
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2010, 01:42:11 PM »
No, the parts definately wont interchange. I've had several Steven's single shots but no more. Even if you got it back together, the Crackshot is weaker than the Favorite, which was none too stout itself. Shoot anything more than .22CBs and they WILL shoot loose. Save yourself the trouble.

Exception to the above is the 1915 Favorite, a coil spring,'nominally beefed-up' design. They were made after the advent of 'high speed' .22LR ammo and hold up much better. The 'new' Savage Favorite is much stronger and also comes in .22WMR (maybe the 17 RFs too?). The 'look' and a joy to carry but awful trigger.
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Re: crackshot/ favorite questions
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2010, 03:42:17 PM »
i have a marksman and two favorites all great shooters and a pleasure to carry all day, used them for squirrel guns. numerich has parts occasionally. try jack first gun shop he may have parts.
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Re: crackshot/ favorite questions
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2010, 01:55:21 AM »
  Thanks for all the input.  I think I'm going to leave this basket case alone.

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Re: crackshot/ favorite questions
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2010, 11:39:37 AM »
Hey, jlw, it sounds like you are a faster learner than I was!
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Re: crackshot/ favorite questions
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2010, 04:19:30 PM »
Don't under rate the basket case!  I have a Crackshot that looks like a piece of junk;  somebody beat on the right side of the receiver with a ball peen hammer to loosten a screw, they also replaced a gun screw with a machine screw.  It doesn't look like much, but will consistantly shoot 3/4" groups at 50 yd. and I shot one 5/16" group with Winchester high speed ammo.  The groups were shot with a scope that I managed to mount on the barrel with a clamp-type mount for an airgun.

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Re: crackshot/ favorite questions
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2010, 04:54:30 AM »
Hey, jlw, it sounds like you are a faster learner than I was!

  I don't know.  I have a number of never to be finished projects in boxes to show that I could have learned quicker than I did.

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Re: crackshot/ favorite questions
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2010, 05:17:21 AM »
Yeah, but that was when you were a grasshopper. We are both wiser now.....
FWIW, I've fixed and rebuilt and played with a bunch of stuff. Some were fun, some were nothing but frustrating and expensive (ie, way more in them than they were worth). I dont begrudge anyone who wants to do it, but for me, now, I'm cutting the projects and frustrations.
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