Author Topic: Feral Dogs!!!! (Read 5092 times)

Justin10mm · « **on:** April 21, 2010, 01:15:52 PM »

Has anyone else had a feral dog problem this year? I live on about 400 acres and have seen 9 different stray dogs in the last year, all on my property. Six are no longer with us.

This has been the most I have ever seen.
I was siting in my deer stand watching a deer gut pile hoping to ad another coyote to the bag when three mutts appeared in the road headed to it. One was a very large black dog with two smaller brown ones. I took the big dog first with a 95 grain BST from my 243 behind the shoulder. As he went down the others turned and headed back down the road right to me. The second one flipped over backwards with a running shot to the thorough. The third dog took it in the chest. All three shots were taken within 15 seconds.

Lets hear how others handle their dog problems.

Dee · « **Reply #1 on:** April 21, 2010, 01:34:54 PM »

Well I started a thread on a pit bulldog from up the road that I SHOULD HAVE SHOT, BUT DIDN'T, and that dog's owners caused more problems and still do when they get the chance. I have since however, shot what I thought was a solid black Rottweiler about a week and a half ago that was trying to tear thru my fence to get to my Jack Russell. Attempts at running him off resulted in a bad attitude from him. After five or six attempts at getting him to leave I used a Model 60 Smith I had in my pocket.
I didn't kill him, but took off part of his scalp and most of his right ear, as I shot a little high from about 4 feet away, and in a hurry, but he did get the message he had worn out his welcome. Then I called the police and followed the untagged dog home. The owners apologized, and me and the police, and the owner, found out the dog had for some reason broken out a window in the house and gotten out.
It was not a Rottweiler as I had thought but instead a "European Labrador". A big male that looks nothing like the Labrador Retriever, nor did he have the usual attitude of the Labrador Retriever. I guess I'm gonna have to add "European Labrador" to my list of non-desirable dogs on my place, to go with the Pit bull and the Chow. Either way everyone up the road now knows for sure, I will shoot a dog causing problems on my place.
The damnedest thing was, the wife of the owner said when they first got the dog she was afraid of it. Why would anyone want a dog they themselves didn't trust? And they have small kids just like the pit bull owner up the road. Go figure that logic out.

petemi · « **Reply #2 on:** April 21, 2010, 02:19:30 PM »

I don't have feral dog problems. Our wolves and coyotes take care of them. I do have wolf and coyote problems

Pete

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #3 on:** April 21, 2010, 02:54:29 PM »

I wonder if the housing has something to do with the wild dogs. People have been telling their kids that Sparky went ot live on a farm some where they take the dogs out to different farms and let them go.
I did shoot a dog once, It was a pit mix and snapped at my friends kids when their dog was in heat. I shooed him off with a close shot and the next time he was in the yard. One to the chest with a 22 mag and a 2nd quick shot to the head.
Other than being agressive against humans or other animals in your yard I leave them alone.

hillbill · « **Reply #4 on:** April 21, 2010, 03:16:14 PM »

im lucky to live in cow country, feral dogs are shot on sight by almost every farmer i know.a neighbor used to snare them years ago gittin into his sheep.he wud be standing there looking at the dog caught in the snare, talking to the owners, on the phone and they would tell him no way was that their dog cuz it never left the yard! he just told them since it wasnt their dog then he was gonna shoot it.

mechanic · « **Reply #5 on:** April 21, 2010, 03:48:38 PM »

I built a house some years ago in an area where there had been no houses for years. I developed a bad habit of taking food scraps 3-400' behind the house and dumping them. I discovered I had many many neighbors. I kept a 243 by the back door for a couple years, and lost count of how many I had to shoot. Such a shame. So many were starving. If folks don't want them, it would be more humane to kill them outright than to sentence most to starve, and the rest to be a danger to society.....

Justin10mm · « **Reply #6 on:** April 22, 2010, 05:04:08 AM »

They not only pose a threat to peaple, but to wildlife too. I was out on my atv checking a deer feeder when I hered two dogs down on our creek barking. They were in heavy brush so I figured they were after a rabbit. I sat and listined for a seconed and realized they had moved several hundred yards thru the brush quickly. So I drove to my feild that sits in the middle of my pasture and just cought a glimps of the three deer the dogs were chasing leave the feild on the opisite side. I quickly stopped and drew my 270 win. from it's case. I dident have to wait long as the jingling of name tags anounced the two culprits were nearing. I took the big hound first with a shot to the shoulder, and the small one with a shot to the face at about a 100 yards. I had seen these two twice before but was unable to remedy the problem with shots over there backs. There owner lives about 3 miles away from were I shot them.

Dee · « **Reply #7 on:** April 22, 2010, 05:28:51 AM »

Well, if I were you I would let it go since the dogs are dead, and he can always wonder what happened to them. I tried contacting the owner after the fact, and the dog is still alive, and he's mad at my family. The other dog I shot, I followed home when I failed to kill him. I did not want any rumors. Had I killed the dog, I would have loaded him up and buried him.

jamaldog87 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 22, 2010, 06:06:22 AM »

If i lived outside the city and i saw stray dogs i would just shoot them if they run up on my place. If someone asked i would said " looked like a coyote" and leave it at that. I have been walking here in tarpon springs and run into many loose dogs and that why i carry my OC or baton or large hunting blade. It odd but if you kill a person that was attack your family it ok but a dog and they act your the DC sniper

People say you should try and find the owner? why should i but my self in danger for getting something or attacked or my love ones to catch your dog? If it was up to me Any stay dog that in the "mean dog breed" i would put down, a pit bull just killed a 7 day old baby here and i am done with this " he is nice " stuff.

jamaldog87 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 22, 2010, 06:10:55 AM »

You know when i was little we live in a rual area and i never saw a loose dog. I used to play at a guys home that had pure blooded wolfs and i was never fearful of them or any dog. We move to tampa in the city and i ran into many mean dogs. Now i hate any dogs that even look at my bad.

Old Fart · « **Reply #10 on:** April 22, 2010, 06:33:00 AM »

I'm afraid with the economy the way it is we'll be seeing lots of feral dogs out in the country.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #11 on:** April 22, 2010, 07:19:36 AM »

One night I heard My roomate get up and rack a round into his shotgun and run out the front door.
I grabed my Sig and a flash light and went out the door too to see him laying on the front porch and swinging the shotgun under the house.
I asked what he was going to do. He said there were two cats (trying to make kittens- family friendly) right under his bed and he could not sleep and he was going to get rid of them. I said wait there are gas and sewer lines under the house and we will take care of them tomorrow. After a few seconds he agreed.
We lived in a college town and the girls in the dorms or apartments would get kittens and when found out by the dorm heads or apartment managers and told they can move either them selves with the cat or just the cat the girls take them to different neighborhoods around town and sent them free. So the next day I removed a screen out of the laundry room window and set up two pieces of 3/4 Ply wood. Attached them together at a 90 degree angle and painted it white. Floped it on the ground in the middle of the yard. Grabbed a church key and made triangle holes all around a can of tuna and then uining a large nail nailed it to the center of the bottom board and into the ground.
Set up the 10/22 and a flash light and I said just give it a little while and they will tell us when they are ready to be shot.
About an hour later we heard a cat out back crying cause he could not get any more of the tuna out of the can.
We made an agreement that anything with a collar was off limits and dispatched about 30 cats in a week.

streak · « **Reply #12 on:** April 22, 2010, 10:01:00 AM »

As I have mentioned in other forums on this site, hope these feral dogs don`t breed with coyotes! Then you really got a problem!!

Gun Runner · « **Reply #13 on:** April 22, 2010, 09:00:04 PM »

About 30 yrs ago when I was stationed at a remote transmitter site in hawaii we had a problem with packs of dogs. People would drop them off along the fence line and they would make their way onto the base. Had a little 7 yr old girl get chewed up pertty bad. Chief master at arms asked if I would come out on the weekends with a couple select others and elimanate the prob. .22 mag rifle with scope does wounders. Chief said to drag them to the edge of the road and he would have his crew pick them up and take them off base and dump them off a cliff into the ocean/ Said the sharks had to eat to.
Had one dependent wife complain about this and the CO took her and showed her how torn up the little girl was. Not another word was said. Iam sure this practice still goes on at the site.

Gun Runner

montveil · « **Reply #14 on:** April 24, 2010, 07:52:41 AM »

When I was a young man ~55 years ago I lived in a State that had a law that three dogs running loose constituted a pack and as a pack their behavior was dangerous and they could be shot.

Sourdough · « **Reply #15 on:** April 24, 2010, 07:52:52 PM »

When I was growing up in Tennessee we had a problem with people from Nashville driving out and dropping off dogs in the country. My Grandfather was getting pretty heated up about it. One day a car stopped about 100 yards down the road, behind a screening of brush. My Grandfather said they are dropping off a dog. As soon as the dog crossed the ditch my Mom shot it. the woman jumped out the passengers side and went to screaming at Mom and her Husband.

As I got older I started shooting the strays. Lost count of how many I shot, it was sure to be in the dozens.

I did shoot a Lab, Pit Bull mix, that belonged to my neighbor while living in Anchorage. I shot the dog in the middle of the day when everyone else was at work. I picked the carcass up and put it in the bed of my truck. Went down to the highway, and stopped on the entrance ramp. When i saw a group of Semi trucks coming down the highway I lowered the tailgate and slid the dog out on it. I then eased down the highway till I was going across the narrow bridge. There I gunned it and the dog fell onto the the pavement where the wheels of traffic went. I then went to the top of the hill and turned around. As I went back across the bridge, I watched seven semi trucks hauling double all run over the dog.

Later that evening the Anchorage Police brought the owner the collar and tags, saying all that was left was the collar and a big greasy spot on the bridge. Owner thought the dog just got onto the highway and got hit, I let it ride at that.

Glanceblamm · « **Reply #16 on:** April 26, 2010, 04:51:56 AM »

Bad part about the Feral dogs is that they become very aggressive as a pack and will not run from you like a pack of Coyotes will...

Fortunately, word of the pack spreads quickly among the neighboring farms (at least around here) and measures can be taken.

The same people who will dump a dog on your property will also gladly dump an old appliance or furniture on your property, harder to catch but everyone keeps an eye out.

Justin10mm · « **Reply #17 on:** April 26, 2010, 10:33:04 AM »

Few years back I was sitting at the window and cought a glimps of a black dog crossing my place, headed in to the brush. I grabed my 22-250 and a handful of shells and took of on foot to intercept him. I made it to our border fence in the thick brush and saw nothing. I guest that I had mist him but decided to watch the fence line for a few minites anyway. I was only there for a few seconds when I cought sight of movement about 100 yards up the line. There was not 1 dog but a hole pack, at least 6 or 7 dogs, some red, some white, some spoted and several large black ones. My view was blocked by brush so there was no was of making a clean shot. They did not know I was there, were moving quite fast. They crosed the fence line into even thicker brush and were gone. In hind sight, I am kinda glad I diden't make a hale marry shot and wound one, as who knows what the others would have done. I don't think I had enough bullets for all of them.

The next day we heard that 2 of the big black dogs had been chaiseing our neghbors cows the morning before.
Wish I could have put an end to that problem.

Daman · « **Reply #18 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:08:58 AM »

In our part of the world, a stray dog is considered vermin just like coyotes and possums. We raise cattle, horses and sheep and the darn things will run your livestock to death if you let them. I kill every one I can get a bullet in to. If it is a dog I know I pick it up and return it to the owner on a warning that it will be shot next time. We have several large hunting clubs that guys from out of town lease and when they get through with dog season (deer driving with dogs) they just let the dogs keep running. I have killed as many as 15 in one group. And no they do not run as coyotes. They get real aggressive real fast.

Daman

Justin10mm · « **Reply #19 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:40:15 AM »

I just killed # 7 this morning. Small shagy, gray dog, with 22 mag. in front of my house. Looks like she had been in the wild a long time. Getting a little tired of this.

horsepower · « **Reply #20 on:** April 27, 2010, 07:43:42 PM »

When we moved to our place, there was a terrible stray dog problem. Eventually, the neighbors learned to keep their animals at home in the country or not. We get the occassional drop off. If I can catch the folks in the act, I tell them they can leave it for a nickel. They ask was the nickel is for and I tell them to reimburse me for the bullet.

Now, if I can just get my neighbors to learn that their cats don't just go outside and play.

Siskiyou · « **Reply #21 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:00:00 PM »

From the Grass Valley Union:

Greenhorn area resident Marty Lopez recently found his two dogs dead, killed by a roving pack of four other dogs; Tiger, left, was killed outside his pen, and Varmint was cornered on the porch of Lopez' house.
Submitted photoA pair of dogs have been killed on Toby Trail in a presumed pack attack that left even animal control officers shaken.

Marty Lopez, who lives in the 13000 block of Toby Trail off Greenhorn Road, came home Thursday evening to find his two canine companions, Tiger and Varmint, “torn to shreds” — one on his porch and one just outside his pen.

“It was a very organized killing,” said Nevada County Animal Control Officer Christina Daley, who investigated the incident. “It seems like it might have been a group of three or four dogs that worked together on the kills, almost in the fashion that coyotes work together. They knew what they were doing ... It is kind of scary.”

Lopez had seen a group of four dogs roaming the trails and roads around his property at different times and locations, he said.

“There was one time that the pack charged Varmint, but retreated back down a nearby logging trail when I came out onto my front porch to investigate,” he said. “I should have been more observant.”

One of the dogs might have been a Rottweiler and one might have been a brown-and-white pit bull terrier, Lopez said.

Daley has ruled out an attack by a bear or a mountain lion, and he did not think coyotes were to blame.

“These dogs were so large, it would be very unusual for coyotes to attack large dogs in the middle of the day,” she said.

She found canine paw prints and gathered some dog hair that did not belong to either Varmint or Tiger. Some of the hair was brown and some was silver-gray, both from soft-coated dogs, she said.

Lopez believes Varmint, who was loose, was killed first after he was cornered on the porch.

“Tiger was probably trying to escape from his run to assist his buddy,” he said.

Lopez found blood inside Tiger's pen and thinks the pack might have pushed its way inside to attack him. He believes Tiger then broke out of the pen, only to be brought down less than 15 feet away.

“Sometimes dogs (in a pack) get excited and they have that drive to attack,” Daley said.

But this pack did not attack in a typical fashion.

“Most dogs will cause random wounds, they'll grab what they can grab,” Daley said. “The wounds on these dogs were very specific, they were all to the legs. This pack attacked one dog at a time, and each dog attacked a leg. The (victim dogs) had no facial or muzzle bites.”

Daley said there were no witnesses and she has no leads on where the dogs came from.

Anyone with information is urged to call the Nevada County Sheriff's Office/Animal Control Division at (530) 273-2179.

To contact Staff Writer Liz Kellar, e-mail lkellar@theunion.com or call (530) 477-4229.

http://www.theunion.com/article/20100426/NEWS/100429806&parentprofile=search

FourBee · « **Reply #22 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:39:44 PM »

Haven't seen any this year Justin.

I know if they go unchecked, that they get smart hunting in packs, and even howl like coyotes. Only difference is there howling is late in the after-noon on their hunts.

I even took out several dogs with a .270 one day that had a whole herd of cows and baby calves surrounded. All their continuous barking drew my attention, and when I saw the situation, I picked out the leader and took him down. Since he didn't run, the others were temporarily confused, and I took another out. At that time they scattered in every direction, and I took another, then another that came in my direction. The rest disappeared.
When I got home, I called the rancher and told him that he could pick up the carnage.

SD Handgunner · « **Reply #23 on:** April 28, 2010, 01:11:53 PM »

Feral Dogs are a problem no matter where they are.

Case in point, many years ago my wife and I (newlyweds at the time) were driving from Wheaton Minnesota back to our home across the White Rock Dam Road. As we neared the Dam we saw two dogs chasing a Whitetail Doe across the ice on the lake side of the dam. Since it was late March the ice was not good and ultimately the Doe fell through the ice. Watching those two dogs attack that Whitetail Doe it would have been hard to imagine Wolves or Coyotes could have been any more vicious.

Long story short, I grabbed a Remington Model 788 .22-250 I always carried in my Blazer and dispatched both dogs on the spot. I then made my way to our home and phoned the local Conservation Officer. 2 hours later we had rescued the Whitetail Doe from the water. We used a flat bottom duck boat and oars to bust the ice so the doe could swim to shore.

Ever since that day I shoot every single stray / wild dog I get a chance to shoot.

More recently I had a buddy that was out Bow Hunting one fall. He climbed down out of his tree stand and as he was packing up his equipment he heard dogs barking. Before I finished packing everything up the dogs had him surrounded. My buddy went back up the tree and sat in his stand and waited out the dogs.

Larry

Dee · « **Reply #24 on:** April 28, 2010, 05:05:07 PM »

I have more trouble out of so called "family dogs" than I've ever had with feral dogs. The owners turn them loose on the neighborhoods, and think ole Spot can do no wrong. I shot one in my side yard about 2 weeks ago tryin to get at my Jack Russell. The damn dog wouldn't take no for an answer. A Model 60 Smith changed his mind, and he went home with a good crease in his hard head, and part of his ear missing. I followed him home and told his owner what happened and then the police. The owner actually apologized.

fl.hillbilly · « **Reply #25 on:** April 28, 2010, 06:26:53 PM »

nope , not really a problem minor nuisance , I just make sure i carry a shovel and a shot gun / rifle so, no real problem. the three s's are my guide {shoot, shovel, shut up } no problem

Clodhopper · « **Reply #26 on:** April 28, 2010, 06:45:49 PM »

A few years ago I had 6 full grown turkeys ripped apart by a pair of dobermans that a lady about a mile away had. I heard the ruckus in my turkey pen and went out with my 870 but didn't get a shot as the dogs ran when they heard my door open. I finished killing the turkeys and then contacted a deputy sherrif and we went to the lady's house. She swore that it couldn't be her dogs because they never left the yard and it was my word against hers. About a week later they killed a young steer that this little girl was raising as a 4H project and again the lady said that her dogs couldn't be the guilty ones.

I had had enough so I sat up early one morning about 1/4 mile from her house out in the desert and started calling with my rabbit squawller. About a minute after I started calling I saw the dogs run out her gate and head my way. I let them get to about 15 yards and fed both of them a load of 3" #2 magnums. I left what was left (#2 magnums from 10 to 15 yards really does the number on just about anything) laying and went home. Figured that since her dogs never left the yard she didn't have anything to worry about. The deputy asked me later if I was the one that did it and I told him yes. He said good!

Dee · « **Reply #27 on:** April 29, 2010, 05:05:56 AM »

Clodhopper, that's what I told the police to tell the owner of a pit bull up the road, and he agreed. I should have shot the dog the first time, but tried to do the right thing. Instead of taking heed and appreciating my good will, they resented it, and I became the bad guy to them. The police didn't fall for it, and basically said what you said. If the pit bull comes down here, I WILL shoot it next time, and since theirs never gets out, they have nothing to worry about.
My wife however, says since I shot the other dog a couple of weeks ago that the pit bull owner got the point. The whole neighborhood agrees the dog needs to be either shot or kept up, and one across the pasture says he doesn't want him on his place either.

Clodhopper · « **Reply #28 on:** April 29, 2010, 05:41:28 AM »

I like dogs and have 4 myself. I feel that it is my responsibility to ensure that they remain on my property and I have good fences with hot wires to make that happen. I also feel that if one of my dogs gets out and causes a problem then that is my responsibility too! People that don't believe that should have their dog bite someone and then go to court over it. They will lose! Their insurance company will settle out of court because they know that they will lose the case. I know this because my lab snapped at a kid who was trying to take a bone away from him, on my property. I paid for the medical, basically a bandaid and a tetanus shot, and the kids mother still talked to a lawyer who then went to my insurance company. They gave her, and her lawyer, lots of money and cancelled my insurance. These people were trespassing on my property, since I didn't invite them or even know them, as they came through my closed gate to look at one of my horses.

A lot of people don't know that most insurance companies won't insure you for basic household insurance if you own certain types of dogs, including pit bulls.

Justin10mm · « **Reply #29 on:** April 29, 2010, 11:01:02 AM »

Quote from: Clodhopper on April 29, 2010, 05:41:28 AM

I like dogs and have 4 myself. I feel that it is my responsibility to ensure that they remain on my property and I have good fences with hot wires to make that happen. I also feel that if one of my dogs gets out and causes a problem then that is my responsibility too! People that don't believe that should have their dog bite someone and then go to court over it. They will lose! Their insurance company will settle out of court because they know that they will lose the case. I know this because my lab snapped at a kid who was trying to take a bone away from him, on my property. I paid for the medical, basically a bandaid and a tetanus shot, and the kids mother still talked to a lawyer who then went to my insurance company. They gave her, and her lawyer, lots of money and cancelled my insurance. These people were trespassing on my property, since I didn't invite them or even know them, as they came through my closed gate to look at one of my horses.

A lot of people don't know that most insurance companies won't insure you for basic household insurance if you own certain types of dogs, including pit bulls.

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Author Topic: Feral Dogs!!!! (Read 5092 times)