Feral Dogs!!!!

[Dee]

My cousin lives farther out than I do, but on a county road. He has a brown mix breed that is generally an ass. About a month a go a woman was walking down the road for exercise like she always does with her dog. My cousin's dog left the yard, and attacked the other dog. In the melee, the woman got bit trying to get my cousins' dog off hers. That little incident cost my cousin $2,200.00, and well it should have. His solution to that not happening again. Nothing! The dog is still running loose.
In the coffee shop the other day, a neighbor to my cousin told my uncle, if he caught the dog at his place running his calves, he was gonna shoot him. My uncle said go ahead. My cousin didn't learn a thing.

[jlwilliams]

  Dogs are about the worst menace on four legs.  They don't fear people, which makes them dangerous.

  As already said, the 3-S rule is key.  If you shoot someone's dog, and you do so under circumstances that you are clearly in the right and not criminaly liable, you can still be sued in civil court.  If you have to shoot a dog, you have to.  That's more likely than having to shoot most other predators.  If it's got tags, you are often best to just let dead dogs lie.  Even if they don't sue, the 'neighborhood good will' is gone.  Shoot, shovel, and shut up.

  I have a special disdain for jackasses who set an pet "free" in the country.  It's cruel to the animal and dangerous to the people who live "out there" (like beyond the city limits is reall the wild frontier-Grizzly Adams country)

[Siskiyou]

In the wake of the fatal mauling of two dogs off Greenhorn Road last week, several homeowners in the area have reported similar attacks by dog packs.

It is not clear, however, whether the same dogs are responsible for all the attacks.

On April 23, Marty Lopez, who lives in the 13000 block of Toby Trail off Greenhorn Road, found his two canine companions, Tiger and Varmint, “torn to shreds” — one on his porch and one just outside his pen.

Nevada County Animal Control Officer Christina Daley investigated the incident and said it might have been a group of three or four dogs that worked together on the kills, almost in the fashion that coyotes work together. Daley found canine paw prints and gathered some brown and silver-gray hair from soft-coated dogs that did not belong to either of the two victims.

The next day, a pack of three dogs attacked and killed a cat at the top of Banner Mountain — not far from Toby Trail as the crow flies, said the cat's owner, Sandy Millert.

“My husband heard a ruckus behind the pump house and ran out,” Millert said. “He saw three dogs, all real straggly. He charged the dogs, and they dropped the cat and scattered.”

Millert's husband said one dog was a reddish pit bull terrier mix, one was a husky-type dog with gray fur, and one might have been a black Labrador retriever. All three were skinny and mangy, he told his wife.

“I think these dogs were dumped off and have been fending for themselves,” Millert said.

Daley also investigated the cat's death and told the Millerts the attack might have been related to the Toby Trail incident, Millert said.

“I'd never seen (the dogs) before, and I haven't seen them since,” Millert said. “I'm frightened to walk outside. We have a (dachshund), and I'm scared to let her go out alone.”

For his part, Lopez was skeptical the same dogs were responsible for the attacks, since the pack he has seen in the past was a group of four well-fed dogs, including a Rottweiler and a brown-and-white pit bull terrier.

And another homeowner who reported the mauling death of one of her goats off Jones Ridge Road — less than a mile from Toby Trail — pegged the attack, which took place about a month ago, to a completely different pack that included a wolf hybrid and a husky mix.

Valerie Lenwell said she has complained to Animal Control and the owner of the wolf hybrid for more than four years, and the dog had been cited before the attack that killed her Nubian goat.

Lenwell did not see the attack, although she saw the dog pacing outside her goat pen for at least an hour after she heard the goat scream.

“Animal Control did not cite this dog for the attack,” she wrote in an e-mail to The Union. “They said his presence at the time of the attack might have been a coincidence.”

A few nights after the attack, Lenwell trapped one of the dogs in the pack, she said. That same night, the wolf hybrid and another dog charged her daughter and her daughter's partner, she said.

“It's a big problem in Nevada County,” she said. “These dogs are dangerous ... There was a recent dog pack attack on Manion Canyon Road in which another pet was seriously injured.”

In December, a yellow Labrador retriever was attacked by two half-wild dogs near Chicago Park, said the dog's owner, Jim Stone.

Unleashed dogs that roam neighborhoods and attack other animals are an unfortunate but common situation throughout rural areas of western Nevada County, said Bruce Baggett, an officer with Nevada County Animal Control.

Property owners plagued with trespassing dogs often shoot the canine offenders. They are well within their rights to do so, if an animal is attacked or an attack is imminent, Animal Control officials have said in the past.

But that's an option that Lenwell, for one, is reluctant to take.

“I don't want to kill anything,” she said. “But I will end up killing the dog if I can't contain it.”

Anyone with information on the dog attacks is urged to call the Nevada County Sheriff's Office/Animal Control Division at (530) 273-2179.

http://www.theunion.com/article/20100429/NEWS/100429689/1066&ParentProfile=1053

[Gun Runner]

Beings I live a ways up the road from Siskiyou and very close to where this problem is might have to rummage thru the safe and find  something that will cure this problem. Also have several shovels but son in law and several friends that live close have back hoe's.
P.S. I belong to the  SSS club.

Gun Runner

[Dee]

I had foolishly let my membership expire, but have since purchased a life time membership. No Mas, No Mas.

[Justin10mm]

Once a member, always a member.

[Siskiyou]

Pitbull attacks 91-year-old in backyard
Police shoot, kill ‘aggressive’ dog
By Jenifer Gee Journal News Editor

Auburn police shot and killed a pitbull after it reportedly attacked a 91-year-old man Sunday.

The victim suffered “severe” injuries to his left wrist, hand and fingers, which required more than 30 stitches to fix, according to Auburn Police Sgt. Dave Lawicka.

At about 2:47 p.m., police dispatch took a report of a vicious dog attacking someone, Lawicka said.

Police arrived at a home on the 800 block of Dairy Road and found an “aggressive” 80-pound male pitbull in the backyard of the victim’s home.

Lawicka said the pitbull, which made its way over through a hole in the fence, cornered the 91-year-old man up against a tree.
Lawicka, who was the first officer on scene, said he found the man in the corner and the pitbull standing about 15 to 20 feet away barking at the victim.

Lawkicka said he yelled at the barking dog and pulled his gun out when it started to come toward him.

“It came at me a couple of times and backed off when I pointed the gun at him,” Lawicka said. “We did that dance a couple times.”
Two additional Auburn Police officers arrived and attempted unsuccessfully to hit the dog with a Taser gun and secure it with a catchpole.

The dog escaped and fled west on Luther Road before officers found it in the Woodside Village mobile home park nearby, Lawicka said.
Police again tried to control the dog using a Taser gun, but were unsuccessful, Lawicka said.

“Due to the aggressive tendencies of the dog and the danger of residents walking in the area, the dog was shot on scene and subsequently died from the gunshot wound,” Lawicka said in a news release issued Monday.

Lawicka added that police were afraid of what could happen if the dog remained loose.

“We did what we could to try and take the dog alive but given the circumstances, the size of the dog, the dog’s aggression and what had occurred, we couldn’t allow the dog to run wild and loose among citizens with the potential of biting someone else,” Lawicka said.

The 91-year-old male told police that he was working on a sprinkler line in his backyard when his neighbor’s pitbull came through a hole in the fence.

Lawicka said another neighbor heard the man yelling and called police. Another police officer stayed with the victim until an ambulance crew arrived, Lawicka said.

“He is home recovering,” Lawicka said.
 
Lawicka declined to release the name of the pitbull’s owner, citing the ongoing investigation.

He said police plan to forward the case to the District Attorney’s Office.

http://auburnjournal.com/detail/148907.html?content_source=&category_id=&search_filter=&user_id=&event_mode=&event_ts_from=&event_ts_to=&list_type=&order_by=&order_sort=&content_class=1&sub_type=&town_id=

[Dee]

I'm sure it was just a misunderstanding between the old man and the dog. The old man most likely provoked the dog. This breed shows itself over, and over, and over, on a nation wide basis, and there are still those that defend the breed.

[Siskiyou]

I am sure the pro-pitbull letters are falling off the printer already from across the Nation.

[Dee]

I'm sure they are, and the pit bull, and his owner, have been proving my point for me, from coast to coast, and border to border for decades.

[jamaldog87]

I have asked this in the past but what would be a anti-dog handgun? would a 9mm or 38 do it or something bigger?  I hear the 357sig,40S&W, and 45acp are all very good anti dog handguns.  When i am in the woods i carry my heavy machete or long blade for anythings a run into.

[mechanic]

I have asked this in the past but what would be a anti-dog handgun? would a 9mm or 38 do it or something bigger?  I hear the 357sig,40S&W, and 45acp are all very good anti dog handguns.  When i am in the woods i carry my heavy machete or long blade for anythings a run into.

Any of the above with a well placed shot.  I saw a cop shoot a Rott. four times however before he went down.  The last shot was a CNS.  Dogs are tough creatures, so just like a man, one shot might not do the job........

[joe 1951]

  Ithaca m-49 and a shovel

[FourBee]

jamaldog87 ; My experience says there is no adequate anti-dog handgun. 

mechanic's post tells it all.  The policeman handles his sidearm regularly.  Has to qualify at the gun range on  a scheduled basis.  If it takes a professional that many shots to down a domestic dog, how much better will an amature do behind the barrel in an undesirable situation?   Sometimes a scenario is bad enough with a shotgun and buckshot.   Like blowing the top off the water hydrant in the backyard and causing the whole countryside to erupt from the sounds of squaling, screaming howls of a wounded critter.  But, experince is always the best teacher, even if it is the hardest way.

[SD Handgunner]

12ga with 00 Buck, but it isn't a handgun.

[Siskiyou]

Dog attack victim, 91, describes bloody fight for life with 80-pound pit-bull cross
Auburn Police impound three other dogs from neighbor, investigate possible charges
By Gus Thomson, Journal Staff Writer
 

Ben Furtado/Auburn Journal
Tough and lucky World War II veteran Ken Heffren, 91, has a bandaged hand but says he escaped with his life after a pitbull cross attacked him in his backyard Sunday. The dog was subsequently shot and killed by police.

His hand thickly bandaged, 91-year-old Ken Heffren described Tuesday how he fought off a vicious dog attack in his backyard.
Heffren, a feisty World War II veteran and retired telephone company employee, said he was fighting for his life as he tried to fend off the 80-pound pitbull-Rottweiler cross on Sunday afternoon with a hammer and a gardening trowel.

With no-one home, Heffren said his calls for help from neighbors went unanswered for several minutes as the dog came at him. The pitbull cross dug below the fence between Heffren and his neighbor to enter his yard, Auburn Police reported.

Heffren said he had gone into the backyard of his Dairy Road property to bury a piece of concrete to mark a water line. He’d walked toward the back of his one-acre lot with a ballpeen hammer, the trowel and a piece of concrete.

A neighbor at home on the other side of his property had been napping but eventually woke up, heard the commotion and, once he knew what was happening, immediately called the Auburn Police, Heffren said.

Heffren said the pitbull cross had been barking and fighting the wire fence between the two neighbors for the past 1˝ weeks and five days earlier, his wife had decided against going into the backyard.

“She warned me,” Heffren said. “She said the dog was crazy.”
Heffren said the dog emerged from the underbrush in his yard and attacked him, grabbing the handle of the hammer he was holding in the same hand as the trowel and ripping it away.

Heffren said he held the trowel against his palm to prevent the dog from using its lower jaw to bite upward and clamp down as the upper jaw ripped into his veins and stripped away the skin.

“It saved my life,” Heffren said Tuesday, as he examined the trowel.
His pants soaked with blood and his hand bleeding profusely, Heffren hung onto a bush with the other hand. He ended up with more than 30 stitches after Auburn Police were summoned by a neighbor and drew enough attention away from him to allow his escape.

“The dog came at the police too,” Heffren said. "Every time the policeman came forward, it would go at him.”

Police used a stun gun to control the dog but it escaped down Dairy Road to Luther Road, where it made its way to the Woodside Village Mobile Home Park, near Highway 49. A second attempt at stunning the dog into submission was unsuccessful.

“Due to the aggressive tendencies of the dog and the danger to residents walking in the area, the dog was shot on scene and subsequently died from the gunshot wound,” Sgt. Dave Lawicka said in a Monday news release.

Lawicka said Tuesday that Auburn Police are continuing to investigate the incident as one of a vicious dog at large, which is an offense under the municipal code – not a criminal offense.

Two neighbors, who declined to give their names, expressed concern about Heffren’s injuries but said that they needed to talk to a lawyer before deciding whether to tell their side of the story.

Three other dogs were taken from the neighbors’ residence and impounded – including a 2-month-old pitbull cross puppy now with the Animal Medical Center. Also in police custody and housed at the Placer County Animal Shelter were a Shetland sheepdog mix and a female pitbull mix.
 
Mike Winters, Placer County Animal Services manager, said the dead pitbull mix was tested and came up negative for rabies.

The other three dogs are being kept while Auburn Police decide whether the Dairy Road residence the dead dog came from was secure enough to safely house the animals, he said.

http://auburnjournal.com/detail/149043.html

[Dee]

Only a few ever get it about these kinda dogs. They are what they are.

[Cecil]

They sure are, A target

[curteric]

A couple of years ago I had a neighbor who told me that he moved to the country so that his dogs had a place to run if I didn't like them at my place tough. Well he had a big black mutt that the other neighbors and I started calling the garbage dog. If you put your garbage into a plastic shopping bag, garbage dog would take it home and rip it apart. The neighbor would then have his kids cleaning up the mess, in his yard. He couldn't help but know where the garbage was coming from, as we would leave address's in the garbage.  He never called or talked to us just paid to have our trash hauled, about the time I was getting ready to cancel my garbage hauler, someone shot the garbage dog. Now i have to pay $26 a month, I'm one unhappy camper.

[Dee]

Now that's funny I don't care who ya are. Reckon the owner is the one that shot the dog?

[Dances with Geoducks]

You guys need to get a Buff Classic 45-70 and be one with your sadistic side

[Dee]

Hey! Great idea! I can just see myself running thru across the country side at the edge of town killing dogs with my single shot 4570. What an adventure.

[curteric]

Dee
The owner of Garbage Dog didn't shoot it. In fact the sheriffs deputy had to explain Minn. trespass laws to the dogs owner. You just can't go where ever you want looking for clues, ie empty shell casings.

[Dee]

If I owned a dog that habitually drug trash up in my yard, that would be all the incentive I needed to dispose of the dog, not the trash.

[Siskiyou]

Looks like a good shooting!  Dee must have been the watch commander!

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/inland_empire&id=7442905

[Siskiyou]

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Friday, May 14, 2010
Pit bull in custody in brutal dog attacks

By Liz Kellar
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A pit bull named Romeo has been fingered as the alleged perpetrator in at least one of the brutal attacks against other pets that have been spooking residents of the Greenhorn Road area.

John Goetz, who lives in the 13000 block of Toby Trail, allegedly caught Romeo and another dog in the act of attacking Jazzy, a 4-year-old black Lab.

“He heard (the dog fight) and came out yelling and screaming,” said John Goetz's wife, Pam.

John saw two dogs, one of which was a pit bull, attacking Jazzy, but they ran off, Pam said.

“She was ripped in the leg and the chest and the neck,” she said.

But it was 12-year-old Sparky, a border collie-Queensland heeler mix, that got the brunt of the attack on Tuesday.

“He was in the driveway and was just chewed up terribly,” Pam Goetz said. “It was like something you'd see in a horror movie, he was ripped up so bad. His ear just hanging on his head.”

The Goetzes took Sparky to the veterinary clinic, where they discovered his trachea was torn as well.

“We didn't think he would pull through,” Pam Goetz said, explaining they decided to have him put to sleep.

“He was a wonderful dog,” she said.

Pam Goetz went “bushwhacking” later that day, determined to find the dog responsible.

She had a suspect in mind, she said. When she got to the pit bull's residence, there was a new chain connected to a post, but the dog was gone.

When the pit bull showed up, it had blood and a wound on its nose, Pam Goetz said.

“That dog's not OK in the head,” she said. “I hate for anybody to have to lose their pet, but I wouldn't think twice (about euthanizing it) if I was the owner.”

The Goetzes called Animal Control officers, who impounded the dog.

Later, John Goetz was asked to pick it out of a “doggie lineup” of about 15 dogs.

“He chose Romeo,” Pam Goetz said.

The pit bull remains in custody at Animal Control, said Sgt. Shirley Falls.

The owner has not yet decided whether to surrender the animal, which was adopted about a year ago, but officers believe the dog might need to be destroyed, Falls said.

Romeo's owner “won't get the dog back without building a major kennel,” she said. “I don't know how anyone could contain this dog.”

Falls said it was not clear if Romeo was involved in the other attacks in the area and the investigation was ongoing.

On May 3, Greenhorn Road resident Justin Nicholson came home to find something had attacked his three dogs, which were inside a “very heavy-duty” chainlink pen.

Initially, he believed several dogs he found outside the pen were the aggressors, said his wife, Cynthia. But the dogs were very friendly and had no blood on them, she said.

There was plenty of blood spattered on the fencing and wood of the kennel, which had some of the chainlink pulled up to the point where it was unraveling, Cynthia Nicholson said.

“Whatever is out there, I can't imagine it's a dog,” she said the day after the attack. “It's very scary.”

The Nicholsons have three dogs — a black Lab, a chocolate Lab and an English pointer, which had been bitten on the head.

The chocolate Lab had been the victim of an attack about two months ago while it was loose, Cynthia Nicholson said.

“She was bitten on her hind legs, she had a gaping 3-inch hole in her leg,” she said.

The Nicholsons live about 250 yards from the property owned by Marty Lopez on Toby Trail. Lopez's two dogs were killed in a brutal attack April 23.

Lopez, who lives in the 13000 block of Toby Trail off Greenhorn Road, found his two canine companions, Tiger and Varmint, “torn to shreds” — one on his porch and one just outside his pen.

Nevada County Animal Control Officer Christina Daley investigated the incident and said it might have been a group of three or four dogs that worked together on the kills, almost in the fashion that coyotes work together.

Anyone with information on the dog attacks is urged to call the Nevada County Sheriff's Office/Animal Control Division at (530) 273-2179.



http://www.theunion.com/article/20100514/NEWS/100519834/1066&ParentProfile=1053

[His lordship.]

I have a bit of a twist on this, when I used to live in Portland, Oregon.  I had a rented house in town and the dogs would come on to our property and use the toilet, or chase our cats around.  At the time I had a Crossman .22 cal. pellet rifle, normally I would use it to eliminate house sparrows with 2 pumps (10 pumps is max. specs.)  At the full power of 10 pumps this had some punch to it, 580 fps) I hit 3 dogs, one a poodle that let out a howl as it ran, one a big shaggy dog that only seemed annoyed, and a Basset hound that howled and spun in circles.

It was an amusing experience, I aimed at their butts, only the shaggy dog reappeared.  I could have used a real gun but the noise would have gotten the neighbor's attention.  Looking back at it all, I should have aimed for the head.  It was the same old story with the dog owners, let Rover roam free in the neighborhood, he won't bother anyone!

I have more powerful pellet guns now, live in another state, and might use a real gun down the road, never would tell the owners that I shot their dog as it is best to try to be a "Good neighbor".

[Predator75]

When I was a kid growin' up in rural Indiana my dad always kept a couple of 12ga. shells loaded with rock salt. They wouldn't kill em' if they were someones pet, but you better believe you would never see um' again

[Dee]

My 12 is loaded with rock salt too. It just looks and feels like lead. But it's salt.

[mechanic]

My 12 is loaded with rock salt too. It just looks and feels like lead. But it's salt.

Burns just like salt don't it?