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Offline patw

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Air gun for squirrels
« on: April 30, 2010, 03:11:41 AM »
The tree rats are eating up my garden.  I had a tree full of Japanese plums, and when they got ripe, the squirrels cleaned it out in one day.  The war is on, I have to get them before the peaches ripen.  I find my 17 pellet gun not enough for squirrels, I want to move on to a 22 air rifle.  What is a good accurate air gun that will do the job?

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2010, 05:45:51 PM »
I've killed many with a .177. Sometimes they run a little or just stop. Then in a minute they just fall out. The .22's do hit harder but drop more and are more expensive. Go for a RWS or Beeman 1000 fps break to cock rifle.Spend some on different pellets to see what it'll do. The wadcutters make a nice thump on tree rat torsos.

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2010, 05:44:19 AM »
Get you a Model 34 RWS in 22 caliber. I also have killed many with my Model 34 177 caliber, but the 22 does pack a better punch.

I also have a Beeman R-1 in 22 caliber, it does the same thing, but that rascal is high priced. For the money, the 34 can't be beat.

I also fight the squirrels out of my pecan trees, pear trees, and had some peach trees, but no more. I also have the big Jap persimmon trees, but usually the deer clean them out in a night or two.

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P.S. For a really cheap, accurate and good value for the money, check out the Chinese rifles. Some are very accurate and hard hitters.

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2010, 07:24:10 AM »
Thanks for the advice.  I tried Chefjeff's advice and got some Gamo 7.5 gr pellets in my old RWS and the difference was impressive.  Knocked one out of a pine tree with one shot at 30-40 feet and it fell dead.  I have killed a total of four with those pellets, none got away.  That is a lot better than I had been doing with the lighter pellets.   Casper-zip, what Chinese rifle would you recomend?

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2010, 05:57:38 AM »
I recommend you go to Archer Airguns, they have a good website, good folks to do business with. They have the Chinese Model 78, and you can see it in action on several videos on web sites. It uses 2 CO2 cartridges, but it is a mean squirrel killer for sure. I am getting one soon. I have a closet full of fine airguns, but it's like everything else, it's a disease that can't be cured. Keep buying and buying.

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On some of the air gun forums, you can see several guys with a bunch of squirrels killed with this Model 78. Archer has more models than that, but I'd recommend the 78 to anyone. I will have mine soon.

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 11:31:12 AM »
patw, if you want a .22 cal. Try this place, www.compasseco.com almost all the air guns they sell can be had in both calibers and the prices are bout as good as you'll find. They have lots to choose from. scout4<><

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2010, 03:39:42 AM »
I have a RWS model 48 in 22 cal. and a good friend of mine has a RWS 460 in 177. We've done alot different tests as far as red squirrels and chipmunks we've found no difference in killing power  his 8.9gr@ 1000fps (chrono'd) verse my15.2gr@ 750 fps (chrono'd) but when it comes to anything bigger like big grays the 22 cal really out performs as far as body hits are concerned but headshots still no difference. In our test we did find one thing that really stood out as far as pellet design (we've shot all kinds into water to test disruption and penetration.) as far as all the different types of pellets got the misturugen's mushroomed the best and all the other really didn't mushroom? change at all. but the predators in 177 penetrated very good and not so good in 22 cal. But the spitsersaka feild tip (pointed) would penetrate about 2-3 times deeper then all of the others. So for hunting goes we don't even bother trying or buying anything else as far as design. As far as the two rifles concerned the 48 and 460 fromw RWS I do totally reccomend for pest control. Hope this helps

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2010, 04:10:04 PM »
     This is kind of like asking what rifle is best for deer hunting. A lot depends on where you are, how far you shoot, how big the target and, of course, how much you want to spend. For an all around economical, hard hitting, accurate rifle, it's hard to beat the Archer Arms QB-78. They are easily tuned but pretty good right out of the box.

     Co2 cylinders do add to the shooting cost, but you can put one full and one empty into the gun with no loss of velocity, just fewer shots. And they are not so good when the weather gets cold.

     Spring piston airguns are more economical to shoot, but need a light, consistent hold to achieve best accuracy. Keep in mind that advertised velocities are mostly BS, and shooting a pellet much over 1000 fps means it is transonic. This makes it MUCH louder and not nearly as accurate, as the flight path is disturbed when it goes subsonic a few feet from the barrel. Does this matter? Depends on whether your target is at 12' (probably not) or 30' (definitely will).

     There's an excellent air gun blog affiliated with Pyramid Air; much good info there and hours of reading old posts. It will cost you money if you read too much, though. ;D

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2010, 06:02:31 PM »
I use a .177 to kill full size cottontails in my garden, I do not think you need a 22 unless you just want one. I use a Gamo Whisper with Crosman Premier hollow points @ 7.7 grains. Very deadly combination. For an urban environment a 22 could cause more collateral damage.

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2010, 11:26:05 AM »
Bigmoon, I concur . Love the R.A.H. quote. Tell Petey howdy and ask him what he wonders about (haha). happy shooting!

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2010, 04:13:32 PM »
I like the compromise of a .20 cal.  Sheridan Blue Streaks are super airguns for the $$ ($175 with a scope if you shop around), very accurate, self contained (you pump them), variable power, pretty quiet, not hold sensitive and you can shoot them in any weather.

Next choice for me is the Airforce SS PCP in .22, super quiet, very accurate, very powerful but pretty expensive ($800+ with a scope, clamp and scuba or handpump).

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2010, 04:58:08 PM »
     I can't argue with the Sheridan .20, smong2000. I've had one for years with virtually no maintenance outside of normal care & oiling. I couldn't get used to the height of a scope, so I went with a Williams receiver (peep) sight. Smooth, light trigger pull, adjustable velocity & noise, and insensitive to most manhandling. Tom Gaylord, one of the preeminent air gun writers today, has picked it as his last ditch survivalist game getting tool. Used ones show up for +/- $100 all the time, even less at yard sales. I found mine tucked away at a local gun shop, part of an estate buyout.  $80, and it still had the factory sticker on it. Truly an American classic. Thanks for bringing it up.

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2010, 04:00:17 PM »
I use a Benjaman Discovery PCP 22 for tree rat hunting.   Scope is set to be on at 25 yards.   Usually go for head shots, but a heart/lung shot will stop them in a few yards. 
Plum tree and peach trees seem to have grown fuzz balls.  As many as a dozen a tree as fruit ripens..
Since season opened here I have collected 38 squirrels.    Of the 38 only six have been female.  that seems odd as I would think ratio should be close to 50/50.
I am still fighting a losing battle for the fruit from the 11 trees.
 I have a Whisperer-not worth the price and a old 17 RWS Mod 45 I think which is super, but the 17's are not as effective or as accurate as the 22 especially at distance.
The only solution to problem is borrow a  bulldozer and clear woods for a 100 yards or so away from the fruit trees.

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2010, 04:28:13 PM »
Don't overlook the .20 cal. I have an old Sheridan .20 with a Williams receiver sight. It has accounted for lots of game and pests over the years. I also have a Beeman R7 which is deadly on squirrels.

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2010, 05:11:27 PM »
Killed lots of bunnies with a Sheridan .20 when I was a kid, so I can confirm they will do the job well.  Now I use a tuned Crosman 22xx pistol with Predator pellets on tree rats.  Head shots only.  About 21yds yds because that's where the bird feeder is.

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2010, 03:38:07 PM »
I have an Air force SS in .22  You will notice a BIG difference when you use the right pellet, 21g Baracudas, aka Beman Kodiaks. I have tried all the different speeds and I just set it to about 600-650 fps. A solid hit in the vitals and he won't crawl far.
  Try some crossman premier 10.5g's in your current set-up. Heavy round nose, the only way to go.

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2010, 01:43:24 AM »
patw, how about the Benjamin or Crosman nitro piston rifles? Check them out! One of those in a .22 should get the job done! scout4<><

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2010, 02:05:24 AM »
  There are options aplenty, all depends how much you are willing to spend.

  I went precharger this year and got the SheradinMarauder.  10 shot rotary magazine repeating bolt action in 22 pellets.  Best air rifle I've personaly owned.  It wasn't cheap.  It' acurate, powerful and quiet.


  A couple years ago I picked up a Crosman Quest in 22 for about $100 with the scope.  Nice light package and a good buy for the money.  It's a treerat killer.  I'd reccomend one.

  If you get a Chinese air gun, be aware that they come to you dirty.  I mean dirty.  They can also be a little inconsistent.  Some times you get a good one, some times you get a less good one.  I'm not trying to stear you away from them because you can get a useful air gun for minimal money.  Just be aware that you will want to spend some time cleaning it inside and out when you get it.

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2010, 07:01:01 PM »
  If you get a Chinese air gun, be aware that they come to you dirty.  I mean dirty.  They can also be a little inconsistent.  Some times you get a good one, some times you get a less good one.  I'm not trying to stear you away from them because you can get a useful air gun for minimal money.  Just be aware that you will want to spend some time cleaning it inside and out when you get it.

     Quite true, and all the more reason to deal with Steve Archer. For a minimal fee, he'll clean and check your QB for you, and uses the bad ones for spare parts. Regardless of whether or not you have him do this, get a bottle of the citrus Goo-Gone and some nylon bore brushes. A few minutes work and you will be handsomely rewarded accuracy-wise.

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Re: Air gun for squirrels
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2010, 08:35:37 PM »
The QB 78 is deadly accurate out to about 30 yards and easily takes Squirrels
with head shots at that range. I got one last summer and I took 47 of the little varmints this past Squirrel season. Beman Ram Jet pellet is a killer on tree rats.
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