Vanguard "Sub MOA"?

[BRL]

I was at a shop today looking for a used bolt action to use during a Practical Rifle class I'll be taking later this year. I am looking used because I am a lefty and will be using this class to train myself to shoot right handed (due to my right eye dominant). I saw a Vanguard labeled "Sub MOA". It was in .308 with a synthetic (gray) stock. The price was $699 for the new rifle. Is that what these guns are going for? I can't seem to find the "Sub MOA" model. The shop owner said that it is the Vanguard that grouped MOA or better during testing and they took all those rifles and stamped Sub MOA on them and sold them as such.

Any thoughts as to this statement of how well these rifles shoot? I'm looking for my first bolt gun.

Thanks!!

[hunt-m-up]

The "regular" Vanguards are usually around MOA or at least the 2 I have, .270 and .308 Compact are. The triggers on the newer ones are better and somewhat adjustable, otherwise a $100 Timney is a nice improvement. That's probably about right for the Sub MOA model, the regular Vanguards run $400 to $450 around here. The action weighs more than most other bolt actions and the thin barrels tend to heat up quick which may be a problem with extended range time. For hunting they are excellent.

[BRL]

Thank you for the feedback. I went to BassPro today and handled a model or two from most manufacturers...now I'm real confused. Some felt better than others and some smoother than others. The 2 I liked the best, in the same price category, was a Tika T3 and a Sako A7. Those felt really nice and had smooth actions and crisp triggers. Although, I have been used to lever actions and semi auto's my whole life. If I had the money, I would have walked away with 3 rifles!

I know I am probably putting too much effort/thought into this purchase as most of the factory guns I handled will probably shoot better than my ability. But, my first bolt gun is a BIG deal to me for some reason. I think it's easier to decide on a car. 

[sachel.45]

the sub moa vanguard also has a diffrent stock (i think its a bell and carlson) than the standard vanguards there also guarteed to shoot under an inch (the sub moa models the standard is 1.5" and under)

[BBF]

If you are OK with the looks of them, Savage  Rifles are reasonable priced, come in a variety of cal and models and  they shoot well !!

[BRL]

Savage IS an option. I did pick up a couple to get a feel for them. But, the ones I looked at were close to the same price as the others...high $500's. I can't remember what model they were though.

[lucky guy]

If you buy the Howa it's the same barreled action.  Howa doesn't cull out the sub-moa rifles, so you have a pretty good chance of getting one.  I think they can be had for 375 - 400 new.  Mine had a decent trigger.  

[huntwithme2]

i bought one of the moa two years ago in 257 weatherby.  i shoot left handed and the only other weatherby in that caliber cost about $1,600 in left hand. the moa  shoots really good.  i have a  good handload that puts a 110 accubound in .52 at one houndred yards. the only bad thing is it's kind of heavy.  i think its 7.5 pounds without a scope.  i've got  a tikka left handed in 270 wsm thats only 6.4pounds. and shoots 140  accubounds almost as good .68

[mjbgalt]

my vanguards (7 over time) have all shot less than 1.5" which is their guarantee.

6 have grouped way less than an inch. one shot near the 1.5" mark. no complaints. the sub moa's are guaranteed to be less than an inch but to me, if i can get a standard vanguard to do it, why pay a lot more?