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Inspiration for a "Postal Shoot" Cannon Maker
« on: May 09, 2010, 08:33:49 AM »
     As soon as I saw the cannon featured in Cat Wisperer's new thread titled, 'Postal shoot, new shop toy', I started digging through my stack of, The Artilleryman magazines.  I just knew I had seen that tube somewhere before, and I was right!  Back in the Fall of 2002, Capt. Art Krause, who maintains the Ordnance Survey for the State of Maine, wrote a very interesting article on Queen Elizabeth's Pocket Pistol, a unique cannon with a fascinating history. 

     From the article:  "The piece is located at The Castle, Port of Dover, where it has remained since the end of the English civil wars. The bronze cannon is described as a “basilisk.” The tube is 24 feet in overall length and has a 4.75-inch bore. In 1613 the gun was loaded with 18 pounds of powder and a 10- pound ball. At 2 degrees elevation the shot carried a distance of 1200 yards.

     The highly decorated tube was cast in the city of Utrecht in 1544 by Jan Tolhuys, bell and gun founder of that city. In May of 1545 the piece presented as a gift to Henry VIII by Maximilian van Egmont, Count of Buren. The count was a military commander in the service of the emperor and was on friendly terms with Henry."

     The breech inscription reads, in Dutch: “As breaker of ramparts and walls, Am I known; O’er mountain and valley fly balls, By me thrown.” A more fanciful verse has long been associated with this gun and it appears on Victorian and Edwardian postcards which feature this gun at it's Dover, England location.  The verse often quoted is, “Load me well and keep me clean, I’ll carry my ball to Calais Green.”  Calais, France that is.

     However, the most interesting detail to me that Captain Krause mentions in his article is the fact that the carriage bears a relief of the head of Queen Elizabeth's archenemy, Philip II of Spain surrounded by vipers!   

     So, East Coast Moderator guy, Timothy, are you going to add a few vipers to your new gun??  Could be an excellent way to psych-out your competition in the up-coming Postal Shoot, Tim!!   ;D ;D

Tracy


Cat Whisperer's new Postal Shoot gun.  Do you see it's resemblance to the Elizabeth I cannon?




Queen Elizabeth's Pocket Pistol with it's long, slender tube.


     
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With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

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Re: Inspiration for a "Postal Shoot" Cannon Maker
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2010, 10:22:09 AM »
COOL!   I'd never thought of a cannon as a 'snake gun' before!  This IS an inspiration!
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Re: Inspiration for a "Postal Shoot" Cannon Maker
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2010, 05:31:05 PM »
Found a couple of 18" x 6" x 1/2" plates (SS).  Got to do some serious cutting (and planning before hand).
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Re: Inspiration for a "Postal Shoot" Cannon Maker
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2010, 06:59:57 PM »
     Stainless Steel??  I am curious as to what you need that for.

Mike

Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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Re: Inspiration for a "Postal Shoot" Cannon Maker
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2010, 07:38:53 PM »
did that 'pocket pistol ever 'do ' anything ?

eta god forbid you ever get a ball stuck somewhere along inside it .
 
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Re: Inspiration for a "Postal Shoot" Cannon Maker
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2010, 09:22:01 PM »
I have a couple of stainless barrels and for some reason, they clean a lot easier than the plain steel ones.
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Re: Inspiration for a "Postal Shoot" Cannon Maker
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2010, 11:16:13 PM »
stainless is a more dense material, maybe the chrome and nickel help to fill up the space between the iron molecules . because of that it maybe is less microscopic porosities .
dont know , just a thought
tin does something like that in the copper when mixed to bronze .
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Re: Inspiration for a "Postal Shoot" Cannon Maker
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2010, 01:54:56 AM »
    Stainless Steel??  I am curious as to what you need that for.
Mike
"need" ?  Hmmm.  Because I have it.

The 'need' is to build something practical and functional from otherwise scrap material.

 "Buy" is a four letter word.

It's just a depression-era value I picked up from working (in H.S.) for folks that made it through the depression.

Other things get done under different value systems - the 'need' to have something histerically accurate, for example.  And I have but a FEW of those.

And I have two mortars that are chrome plated - my first in bright chrome - just because it looked so cool, the other in armalite - an industrial hard chrome - for ease of cleaning (and the barrel is 4140) because I wanted it OVERBUILT.
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Re: Inspiration for a "Postal Shoot" Cannon Maker
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2010, 02:18:24 AM »
Tim,  Good luck with it.  I've ruined tools cutting the stuff.

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Re: Inspiration for a "Postal Shoot" Cannon Maker
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2010, 11:21:46 AM »
Tim,  Good luck with it.  I've ruined tools cutting the stuff.

THanks, I'll keep atuned to the speeds and feeds.   ;)
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