the three shot group at lower right is from a pump remington with a vintage Weaver scope that a friend had not fired in AT LEAST 20 years. And yes I did check the bore for obstructions...I used some 165 gr 30-06 loads I had layin around. again, it was pretty much on at 25 so it got fired three times at 100 and that is the lower group. them old pump guns shoot pretty darn good! that group is 3/4" easily