Author Topic: why don't golf balls fly straight- (Read 1264 times)

Double D · « **on:** May 21, 2010, 06:32:21 PM »

-they are too soft

Ex 49'er · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2010, 07:15:53 PM »

Nice slo-mo video. Thanks DD.

GGaskill · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2010, 08:04:04 PM »

That outer covering is really tough. Do we know exactly the protocol here?

Cannoneer · « **Reply #3 on:** May 21, 2010, 09:08:44 PM »

GG,
Could a real GB deform on impact to that extent, without the hard outer covering cracking?

dan610324 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 21, 2010, 11:22:31 PM »

is that real or fake ??
if its real then its incredible

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #5 on:** May 22, 2010, 02:35:58 AM »

It's obviously one that is more homogenious than the ones I use. (They'd not be so elastic - they would breakup before flexing that much.)

It is amazing as to how much deformation that they go through though.

Artilleryman · « **Reply #6 on:** May 22, 2010, 03:45:55 AM »

I didn't see any explanation with it that give the conditions that the video was made under.

gulfcoastblackpowder · « **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2010, 03:48:44 AM »

They shouldn't be deforming that much when struck by a club or fired from a gun, but the real reason they don't fly straight is they are designed not to. The dimples on a golf ball are designed to produce extra lift, accentuating the angle of impact and trajectory of the club head - giving the ball more flight than a smooth faced ball would. Still, for golf ball cannon shooting, I doubt that anyone has tried so long a shot that this has been a significant factor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y57pw_iWlk

Double D · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2010, 04:29:07 AM »

No credentials, just a fun video.

Rock Home Isle · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2010, 04:32:17 AM »

High Speed film is just so cool.

RocklockI · « **Reply #10 on:** May 22, 2010, 05:22:15 AM »

Too bad you cant make airplanes out of em .

I wonder how they got that much energy into the GB , It was obsturating B4 it hit ...the fan

Artilleryman · « **Reply #11 on:** May 22, 2010, 05:40:10 AM »

Here is some information about the GB video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkB81u5IM3I&feature=related

The only problem with the information is that 150 mph and 70,000 fps are not equal. On top of that 70,000 fps is not possible.

RocklockI · « **Reply #12 on:** May 22, 2010, 05:50:01 AM »

I saw that too , i think they are talking film speed ,but I dont know how or if the 70000 convertes to some sence .

That ball was going much faster than 150 mph .

Gary

Artilleryman · « **Reply #13 on:** May 22, 2010, 07:24:55 AM »

I think your right Gary about the 70000 being a film speed. Instead of feet per second it maybe frames per second.

KABAR2 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2010, 07:32:34 AM »

Actually that was a marshmellow molded to look like a golf ball.......

Double D · « **Reply #15 on:** May 22, 2010, 07:46:52 AM »

150 MPH is 792,000 feet per hour or 220 feet per second

70,000 frames per second---easy

http://www.nacinc.com/products/hotshot-low-cost-digital-camera-family/HotShot-INT/

dan610324 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 22, 2010, 09:06:25 AM »

70 000 , thats a few
could I do that with my kodac instamatic ??

RocklockI · « **Reply #17 on:** May 22, 2010, 12:53:07 PM »

well dan how fast can you crank it

My favorite "old school" slo Mo clip is of an F-4 Phanton ,WHICH had a cannon

They slammed it into a reinfoced concrete wall to test for future biuldings .

just gone except for one wing tip that misses the wall and just keeps flying along , look ma no plane !

Rocket sled 400 KTs the wall was fine except for a photo like image of the front view of a Phantom . Photolike

Had a cannon ..........sticking on topic with "photolike"

Dan you werent fast enough ....

dan610324 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 22, 2010, 01:12:40 PM »

maybe I could reach 2 frames per second

not so close to 70 000

I dont think I should try to catch a bouncing gb

in my youth I used a full 36 pic roll of 35mm film in my camera to try to catch the muzzle flame from an 50 cal 1867 remington rolling block rifle

did I get it ??

oooooohhh NOOO

RocklockI · « **Reply #19 on:** May 22, 2010, 02:13:21 PM »

timing lighting is a good way to practice .

dan610324 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 22, 2010, 02:37:17 PM »

with todays digital technique I dont need to practice

dominick · « **Reply #21 on:** May 22, 2010, 04:24:09 PM »

On a calm day a mortar firing a golf ball is fairly accurate where a cannon would not be. I think the speed of the ball has a lot to do with accuracy. I'm building golf ball howitzers and I like to try target shooting one to see how it compares with a cannon. The cannon is good to about 200 feet before the ball curves. Howitzer? We shall see...

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #22 on:** May 22, 2010, 05:09:50 PM »

I'd love to see a comparison with smooth vs. riflled as well !!!

Double D · « **Reply #23 on:** May 22, 2010, 05:26:03 PM »

I wonder if rifling would just cut the cover and the ball would burst as it exited the barrel. I suppose metford rifling would be fine.

GGaskill · « **Reply #24 on:** May 22, 2010, 07:27:24 PM »

The problem with golf balls is getting the same spin on each shot. A smooth bore gives random spin and the spin causes the curved trajectory. When hit properly with a golf club, the ball gets back spin which makes it stay up longer.

JeffG · « **Reply #25 on:** May 23, 2010, 09:45:06 AM »

They aren't dense enought to be pushed at the speed they are going, and there is no rifling. The turbulance coming off the rear, causes erratic flight. Now bullets are pointed, so are race cars. Can you imaging driving a VW Bug at 120?? Might wobble like a shot golf ball.

Out of my Dom GB Dahlgren, the faster I push, the worse it gets, whereas lead has no problem.

Double D · « **Reply #26 on:** May 23, 2010, 02:39:21 PM »

If you like lead you will like the steel golf balls even better.

RocklockI · « **Reply #27 on:** May 23, 2010, 03:03:32 PM »

I shot them from my Dom parrott expecting great things ....

If youve ever hit a wiffle ball or practice plastic golfball you'll know why they dont fly right .

They go fast off the club ,but theres nothing behind them no mass ,they flutter about and at any angle .

YMMV ......fox balls rock

JeffG · « **Reply #28 on:** May 23, 2010, 03:04:13 PM »

Your right Double D I have to get some Fox balls.

Double D · « **Reply #29 on:** May 23, 2010, 03:59:39 PM »

Quote from: JeffG on May 23, 2010, 03:04:13 PM

Your right Double D I have to get some Fox balls.

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