Author Topic: North Korea--what's next? (Read 2093 times)

magooch · « **on:** May 25, 2010, 05:27:30 AM »

How long will the world--particularly South Korea and the U.S.--put up with the antics of the little pip-squeak of a country (North Korea) that seems bent on taking wild gambles just to get attention. It conjures up the vision of a Chihuahua nipping at the heels of a Great Dane, just to get noticed.

Should there be retribution for sinking the South Korean war ship?

Dee · « **Reply #1 on:** May 25, 2010, 05:48:22 AM »

As soon as the some, can get the United States spread as thin as we can possibly be spread, their final move will be made. All we need now is another war, whether with N. Korea, or Iran. It will be the coodeta, and then, no one will have to worry about Obama, the economy, or the lessor of. We will be tryin to find somethin to eat, in a hostile enviorment.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 25, 2010, 06:45:17 AM »

Hopefully South Korea will help North Korea get its population down to a level where they can feed themselves.

silverbuzzard · « **Reply #3 on:** May 25, 2010, 07:13:55 AM »

I believe we are very close to a world in chaos and that all of us should store some viddles. If you believe His word , this must happen and I think THIS year is it. If not now ,very soon and the show will kick off this year.
Much of what we see is power people manipulating the markets for profit. clinton did it by threats to health care and tobacco and guns.Right now the stock market is going to the toilet so if you are in it, GET OUT

jlwilliams · « **Reply #4 on:** May 25, 2010, 02:52:40 PM »

North Korea vs South Korea has been a powder keg about to go off for a long time. So; on the one hand, it hasn't happened yet so why should we think this time is any different? On the other hand, why should we think this time isn't THE time? Sorry for the non-answer but this just may or may not turn into a shooting war.

If not this time, eventually.

teamnelson · « **Reply #5 on:** May 25, 2010, 03:21:25 PM »

That kind of defines this point in history doesn't it?

"eventually"

jlwilliams · « **Reply #6 on:** May 25, 2010, 03:27:21 PM »

"Someday" may, in fact, be today.

Dee · « **Reply #7 on:** May 25, 2010, 04:10:10 PM »

Obama has declared himself. He will not fight. It's the perfect time.

Bigeasy · « **Reply #8 on:** May 25, 2010, 04:48:55 PM »

Its really going to be up to the South to make a stand if they invade. With Kims health being poor, and the fact he is a nut anyway....I don't know, he might pull the trigger. Problem is they have nukes. The US maintains about 25 thousand troops in South Korea, the North over 1 million, all brainwashed to fight to the death. Our superior technology would win in the end fighting a WW2 type battle, but it would be ugly. China won't get involved in NK's defence, now that they have tasted capitalism.....

Larry

billy_56081 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 25, 2010, 05:05:04 PM »

Dee Obama might not but if the reds come across the DMZ our boys will fight. There are alot of them right on the DMZ right now and I don't think the reds will say hey we're comin over please evacuate.

On another thought I think the ROK Army will lick them pretty quick. Anyone familiar with ROK soldiers knows they are tough and well trained.

torpedoman · « **Reply #10 on:** May 25, 2010, 06:04:50 PM »

S.O.S. different day, saber rattling for 2 weeks then fade to nothing.

1marty · « **Reply #11 on:** May 25, 2010, 06:16:45 PM »

north korea is a country which is inhabited by the monkeys from the wizard of oz. I was going to buy a Hunde but I may put my purchase off.

Dee · « **Reply #12 on:** May 26, 2010, 12:26:47 AM »

The last thing we need is a "three front war". We are not winning in Afghanistan, nor Iraq. We have been at both for 20 years, and are broke. If we jump into one with N. Korea we have already lost there once, and would never be able to sustain all three. NO WAY! Merry ole England and the like would not help, about the only that would, would be Israel, and that's if Iran decided to take advantage of the situation and try and move.

GatCat · « **Reply #13 on:** May 26, 2010, 01:09:07 AM »

From what I've heard, N. Korea has mucho artillary, most of it in caves that open to the North face, so that the piece's can be moved out to fire, then retracted to protect from counter-fire. Seoul (SP??) the Capital, would be flatenned in no time, with not only a huge loss off life, but also total disruption of the entire South. As I recall, a few years ago there was talk of moving the Capitol a considerable distance to the south, out of Arty range.
In any event, that little pot-bellied dictator really needs to be eliminated, along with his equally diabolical Sons, various ministers, czars, etc.
and let the North be like the South, free and prosperous.
Mark

Oldshooter · « **Reply #14 on:** May 26, 2010, 01:49:07 AM »

JUST A wag BUT n kOREA AINT GONNA DO NUTTIN CHINA DONT SAY IS OK!

magooch · « **Reply #15 on:** May 26, 2010, 04:05:45 AM »

I think some loudspeakers should be set up at the border of North and South Korea; Hillary could give one of her screeches on a loop. The North will capitulate in a matter of minutes.

beerbelly · « **Reply #16 on:** May 26, 2010, 04:16:36 AM »

I would not bet the north just huff's and puff's this time. I think they know we are so spread so thin militarily that we would not be able to respond for quite some time.
With the massed artillery and a million man army to back it up, they would sweep the small 30,000 man contingent of U.S. troops away very quickly. Obama has told them he would not nuke them if they did not use nukes. This has emboldened that nut case up there.
Beerbelly

magooch · « **Reply #17 on:** May 26, 2010, 04:25:25 AM »

Yeah, but maybe they haven't heard that Obama lies.

gypsyman · « **Reply #18 on:** May 26, 2010, 04:45:48 AM »

Well, unfortunately, I agree with silverbuzzard. Looks like to many things are lining up. It might all blow over, if nothing major happens. But, I'm afraid that one event, might trigger many more. gypsyman

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #19 on:** May 26, 2010, 04:57:59 AM »

I have to agree with Dee with the addition that the world saw how America can gear up for war in a hurry. Our inventory of nukes will hold many at bay like our location did in WW2 . The times are somewhat like before WW2 , little work and little to look forward to. If we entered into a great war many here would flock to get jobs making war products.
Also we will need to stop fighting a FAIR war , its time to start fighting a decisive war. When someone makes war on us we need to make sure they can't do it again for generations to come. Was it Clint Smith that sais something like if you find yourself in a fair fight your tatics stink ?

Dances with Geoducks · « **Reply #20 on:** May 26, 2010, 05:23:03 AM »

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North Korea--what's next?

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teamnelson · « **Reply #21 on:** May 26, 2010, 10:47:09 AM »

Quote from: beerbelly on May 26, 2010, 04:16:36 AM

... they would sweep the small 30,000 man contingent of U.S. troops away very quickly.
Beerbelly

... along with the 655,000 South Korean Active Duty who serve alongside the 28,500 US troops, plus 3 Million reserve, plus another 9 Million trained military age personnel. South Korea has mandatory service PLUS a wartime conscription law - they can have 12 million armed in uniform in under a month. And their training is brutal ... far more rigorous than ours.

The US role in a North Korean attack on South Korea would be only briefly tactical, chiefly advisory at operational and strategic, and mainly using air and naval forces in support. The division of troops on the ground would probably be limited in their engagement while this administration looks for a republican to blame.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #22 on:** May 26, 2010, 10:51:08 AM »

Would it be out of line to expect one of our carriers near by to protect out troops on station ?

teamnelson · « **Reply #23 on:** May 26, 2010, 10:55:11 AM »

I "believe" there's one "nearby" as we speak

Quite "possibly" aso an Amphibious Group "nearby" along with a Destroyer Squadron ... maybe

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #24 on:** May 26, 2010, 11:02:18 AM »

A blue water navy is a nice thing to have CLOSE BY !

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #25 on:** May 26, 2010, 11:31:15 AM »

Quote from: magooch on May 25, 2010, 05:27:30 AM

How long will the world--particularly South Korea and the U.S.--put up with the antics of the little pip-squeak of a country (North Korea) that seems bent on taking wild gambles just to get attention. It conjures up the vision of a Chihuahua nipping at the heels of a Great Dane, just to get noticed.

Should there be retribution for sinking the South Korean war ship?

I think this is the idea.
His army and population are too large for the Communist demand market to feed and I think he is hoping to have the SK's turn some if his soldiers into no longer needeing food, shelter and clothing and some of his military assets into scrap metal.
I also think he will demand Food and $ for reperations or he will pop a nuke in SK if it is not sent.
Like all Dictators and leftist there must be an enemy and a reason why the people are suffereing. Not the political idea. If they stop having someone outside keeping them hungry and poor the people will not rise up and toss off the dictator and end the insane communist system that can not reward everyone for doing nothing.

BBF · « **Reply #26 on:** May 26, 2010, 05:54:30 PM »

IMO it would not take NK very long to be in Pusan if they wanted it.
Perhaps one or two of the NK patrol boats could explode sometime soon.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #27 on:** May 27, 2010, 02:33:50 AM »

China needs Russian oil and soil . They can pretty much take it at will. Russia still believes it can win that war with a rusty army. America most likely would be ask to help Russia . We are tied up in two conflicts now . add a third in Korea and the Chineese would almost have an open door to Sibera .
Funny how things work out sometimes.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #28 on:** May 27, 2010, 03:06:38 AM »

TM-7 yea they are , they may look good aginst a country that is in more ruin than they are but aginst China short of using a nuke do you think they could stop an attack to capture Sibera ? Their own oil business is being drained of capital and no rebuilding is in sight , China is a desert as far as land and oil hungry . China has to have Sibera to grow and survive long term .

beerbelly · « **Reply #29 on:** May 27, 2010, 03:46:09 AM »

The Russian army was in very bad shape several years ago. The country was broke and could no longer afford the field a big army. But with Russia's new oil wealth I am betting the army is back up to par.
beerbelly