19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships

[billy_56081]

I'm starting to think old TM has been spewing these lies so long he acctually believes them. I used to think he was saying all this crazy silly stuff to be funny, but now I am of the opinion that he really does believe his silliness.

I see the animals are learning, the Rachael Corey was borded peacefully. Now here is another silly thing, I hear the antisemites slobber and whine about this Rachael Corey being killed by a bull dozer. Now how do you get killed by a bull dozer? Obviously she killed herself wanting to get attention to her plight.

[powderman]

This thread is the only place I've seen anything about NINETEEN DEAD. Actually 9 more Godless ones have met their end with a bit of gene cleansing with the Israelis help. Never seen anything anywhere else about the captain being killed by a sniper team, maybe al jazeera tells it different, seems to be where somebody gets its information. I'd imagine most of the dearly departed were killed by their Godless brethren. Israel sent an inspection team and expected no resistance and armed with paintball guns. The Godless ones had lots to hide and were waiting with knives, and metal pipes. The Godless ones were trying to sneak in war goods. The only reason the Godless ones would need a gas mask is for building their own weapons, certainly not for growing corn or anything else. The Godless ones want peace??? Quit firing rockets at Israel. I hope the palis someda soon get what they deserve. Had Israel sunk that ship with all aboard, it would have been no loss to the world, and there would not be another ship on the way. When it gets there I hope they sink it. POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

From TM;
 A giant concentration camp is not a country....I don't think legally or morally you can blockade a concentration camp...do you.? Hopefully humanitarians will again and again try to normalize life in Gaza an alievate suffering in the hope that peace can break out.

   Actually, Gaza has only been a "concentration camp" since those silly citizen wretches "elected" Hamas to rule over them. In fact, nearly the whole middle east ouitside of Israel, is one big vconcentration camp.

     "If the 'Palestinians' were to lay down their arms..there would be no war;
           If the Israelis were to lay down their arms...there would be no israel".     ...Dick Morris

    Very true....And nobody in command of their senses would see it otherwise..

[nomosendero]

Yea, but you must admit that 19 has a better ring than 9!

[1marty]

Israel was always guilty by the world community before it was proven guilty. I find it odd people on the blog feel pity for the Hamas supporters who died. Not only does Hamas not make apologies for the stated goal of killing every Jew in Israel but extends that to Christians too. There are almost 6.7 billion people in the world and 13 million Jews. That means the jews represent less than .2% of the worlds population. There is very little difference between the goals of Hamas and other muslim radicals.

[billy_56081]

TM come clean to us, you really are just trying to be comical about the Israel/Pali conflict aren't you? I mean no one with a lick of sence can't see that the Pali's are the agressors here and Israel has shown nothing but the most extreem care when dealing with them.

Oh and BTW TM me being a racist against blacks now dude that is too funny, you can all me Clayton Bigsby if you are familiar with the Chappelle show. Dude you are a comic genious!

[powderman]

Gaza is a concentration camp piled in with souls who had their lands and homes stolen by your god.

HEH. Sounds to me like you finally admitted that your God is NOT the Christian God. The palis were, and still are, trespassers in occupied Israel, they don't belong there, God gave it all to Israel forever.  Concentration camp??? Get real, they border Egypt so they can just mosey on over there if they want to leave, uhhhhh, OOOOOOPPPPPSSSS, I forgot, Egypt, for some strange reason, closed their border with them. Hmmmm, can't understand that, I mean, belonging to the religion of peace and love ya know. The Godless ones keep kicking the dog, they'll continue to get bit. Activists??? Nope, just stirring the pot as usual. POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

Israel was always guilty by the world community before it was proven guilty. I find it odd people on the blog feel pity for the Hamas supporters who died. Not only does Hamas not make apologies for the stated goal of killing every Jew in Israel but extends that to Christians too. There are almost 6.7 billion people in the world and 13 million Jews. That means the jews represent less than .2% of the worlds population. There is very little difference between the goals of Hamas and other muslim radicals.

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Sorry marty, that isn't exactly accurate, and the majority of americans think israel is right even when wrong. I don't happen to....so naturally I'm called anti-semite. But likewise by that kind of measure ,that would make IG, Billy, PM, NS, fourbee, etc all anti-black racist cause they can't stand BHO...works both ways.  There are plenty of Christians captive and exterminated in Gaza...once Palestine was 30+% Christian got along well with the moslems, too...most Christians have been driven out of israeli occupied territory..including Bethelem....several Bishops have been locked up and their parishes sacked. Christians remaining in isarel are most frequently harrassed and ripped off.  There is only one official religion allowed in the israeli theocracy.  I know I've been there.

If you count about 140 million evangelicals and various other judaical-christian sects worldwide than we see jews number about 700  to 1000 million in reality.  Of course there is always the default question, too.



..TM7..
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  Your complaints of racism make no headway here. we are all aware that when a liberal loses a debate, right off he screams "racist"...that is of course, an old, well worn tactic.. I know it may be hard for you to grasp, but most of us do not like BHO because of his politics and agenda. After all, BHO is half white and we don't agree with his white half either, being as it is just a far off base as the rest of him.
   And speaking of Bethlehem, Christians didn't start leaving until AFTER the town was handed over to the Muslims, which of course was shortly after a gaggle of Islamic terrorists took over the Church of the Nativity, treated it like a garbage dump and trashed it out. That church building was a special place for Christians...It was never trashed or disturbed by the Jews duriung all their years of custody of the area..and the Jews have never trashed the Dome of  the Rock..as the "Palestinians" trashed & burned Joseph's Tomb...

   ... A simple case of class vs no class ! ,

[billy_56081]

Thank you for putting it so elequently IG.

[powderman]

A simple case of class vs no class ! ,


One way to look at it, another would be Gods people vs satans disciples. I just bought a new book, Israel from the air, full of pics and history. It's a  beautiful country full of crops and prosperity carved out of the desert. What do you think it would look like if the Godless ones had it??? No crops, slums, and plenty of rockets, bombs, and STILL no food or homes. POWDERMAN.  

[ironglow]

  Here's an example, from Google Earth satellite photos;
   You may have to move map left or right to find white dotted line. Once found, you will see the Gaza Strip to the left of the dotted line and Israel to the right. Hard to miss the neatly irrigated and cultivated fields on the Israeli side, is it not ? Does the Gaza side look like an abandoned wasteland ?

  http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Gaza+Strip,+Shamal+Sina'&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=46.092115,78.662109&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Gaza+Strip&t=h&ll=31.289554,34.35854&spn=0.048849,0.076818&z=14

[ironglow]

  You may have to "click and drag" the satellite map to center the dotted white border.

[powderman]

IRONGLOW. How long did it take the Godless ones to turn it back into a wasteland??? It didn't look like that when Israel gave it to them for peace. Why don't they just ask their mohamed to help OHHHH, I forgot, he's dead, he can't help them from where he is. POWDERMAN.  

[billy_56081]

TM the problem lies with, no matter what the accout, you blame the Jews. You only look through your hate clouded eyes and only can accept that whatever happens it must b e the fault of the Jews.

Now again for this Rachael Corrie silliness. THink about it a little bit, now concentrate, it isn't like a bull dozer sneaks up on you. You can hear it and see it coming and all but a quadraplegic will have time to move out of the way. The dumb braud killer herself for her beliefs, and she is getting what she wants from it, attention to he plight. Hey if someone is stupid enough to get run over by a bull dozer, they are not needed in this world. ANd anyone who sympthises with a person this stupid, has to have thier minds clouded by hatred.

[powderman]

Gaza looks like a waste land because it has been layed waste and seiged for years now...funded by US taxpayers. It too was once a very nice seaside area...like most of Palestine it was productive.


tm. Gaza was indeed productive, when Israel had it, then they foolishly believed they could trade part of their God given land for peace and let the Godless ones have it. There was no peace, the Godless ones lied, as always.
Sounds to me like you are saying that Americans paid the Godless ones to trash paradise. They live like slobs in squalor by choice, they'd rather buy bombs and rockets than farm, raise crops, or work. None of their brothers want them, for some strange reason. They elected hamas, I have no use for any of that scum. Let hamas stop trying to wipe Israel off the map and feed and clothe their own people. Truth is, hamas hates Israel more than they care about their own people. MY God protects Israel. You already stated that he is not your God, or theirs. Right?? POWDERMAN.  

[billy_56081]

TM by the looks of the crowd, they nedded comandos. Seriouslly dude, how can you not see the light? You wimper about some dumb chick getting run over by a bull dozer, and then you whine about the Israeli comandos defending themselves against a mob with clubs trying to kill them. 

[gypsyman]

Lets break this down, to a very easy scenerio. You own property, and on that property, you have a rental house. Unfortuneatley, you rented it to some drug dealers. And, they've shot at you several times. Now, being the nice landlord that you are, you havn't kicked them out yet, but just shot back. Now, a pick up truck is driving down the driveway. And, it doesn't belong to you, or anyone you know. It's on it's way to the rental house. Now, being a nice landlord, but, not a dumb one, you want to make sure that there are just food and cloth's and such in the truck, not any more guns or ammo. So, you stop and check it out. Your tired of getting shot at. If the driver and passenger don't hassle you, and there supplies check out, you let them go. If not, you confiscate the prohibited items. Easy as that, and just as simple. Hope I made that simple enough for everybody. As far as the boat being named for a woman that got run over by a bulldozer, reminds me of the woman in northern Ca. that fell out of the tree protesting a logging operation, and died. Hope they hadn't bred and kept that gene pool going. gypsyman

[beerbelly]

Rachael Coatrrie was trying to do like the Chinese guy did that stood in front of the tank. The Chinese red army apparently are not the murders that the Israeli's are. They
 did not kill the dude that stood in front of the tank! The Israelis's murdered her just as they did the sailors on the USS Liberty
                                Beerbelly

[ironglow]

Rachael Coatrrie was trying to do like the Chinese guy did that stood in front of the tank. The Chinese red army apparently are not the murders that the Israeli's are. They
 did not kill the dude that stood in front of the tank! The Israelis's murdered her just as they did the sailors on the USS Liberty
                                Beerbelly

    Sure BB;
  Just like your buddies didn't murder 3,000 men, women & children in the Twin Towers, the Pentagon and a cornfield in Pennsylvania..right? That massacre alone should have turned you around from any sympathy for terrorists, even if the 15,000+ acts of terrorism by them since that time has not done so.
  
  Rachel Corrie had several people fail her seriously...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

    First off, her parents should have taught her not to play in traffic, especially heavy equipment traffic. She attended ISM classes for a couple days before she went out into the contested streets of a near war zone. They neglected to tell her that a standing person is visible to a tank driver, but rarely is a kneeling or lying person visible from the operator's seat of a D8 with raised blade.

   In all candor, if she indeed were concerned at all for her own safety, she should have known better than to join in raucous demonstrations in the part of Israel which is presently occupied by "Palestinian squatters" .
  

[FourBee]

The Chinese red army apparently are not the murders that the Israeli's are. They
 did not kill the dude that stood in front of the tank! The Israelis's murdered her just as they did the sailors on the USS Liberty
                                Beerbelly

I remember that incident.  embarrassed the Govmt if I recall, and they brought in some out-o-town soldiers with a different attitude.

[powderman]

unless israel is claiming Gaza as their territory.


tm.Gaza IS Israeli territory, now occupied by invaders, trespassers, squatters, and terrorists. I see the lies continue. Israel sends 10 tons of food, medical sepplies, and essentials EACH DAY to the Godless ones in gaza by land. Since they allowed the Godless ones to stay in gaza they have fired over 7,000 rockets into Israel, in 5 years, real friendly folks. Israel feeds those scum and are repaid with treachery and death. Israel also offered to allow the ships to dock and unload in friendly territory, the Godless ones refused, they got what they asked for. You keep saying an American was killed, wrong, just another muzzie with papers, certainly no American. Do you even read any replies to you?? Don't seem like it, you sound like a broken record. I hope Israel gets a bellyful and tells the world to kiss off, then retakes all of the land that God gave them. You finally admitted that your God and the palis is not my God, the real one. That explains a lot. At least you keep us all up on al jazeera news. POWDERMAN.  

[ms]

William N. Grigg
Pro Libertate
June 6, 2010


The bullets used to kill 19-year-old Furkan Dogan, a Turkish-American college student born in Troy, New York, were fired by soldiers in a foreign army — but they were paid for with money extorted from U.S. taxpayers.
A post-mortem documented that Dogan was shot four times in the head and once in the chest by the commandos of Unit 13, which assaulted the humanitarian flotilla attempting to break the Israeli government’s blockade of Gaza. Dogan was one of nine Turkish nationals killed in the attack.
Of the incident in which this young American citizen was murdered, Vice President Biden — an infinitely self-replenishing Artesian gusher of unfiltered foolishness — had this to say: “What’s the big deal here?”
Although Dogan was the only U.S. citizen to be killed, other Americans who protested the Gaza blockade suffered grievously at the hands of U.S.-subsidized Israeli soldiers.
Paul Larudee, a 64-year-old peace activist who was also involved in the flotilla, was severely beaten and otherwise abused during his two-day detention in Israel because he refused to defer to the “authority” of the Israeli hijackers. Emily Henochowicz, a 21-year-old from Maryland, lost an eye while taking part in a demonstration in Jerusalem protesting the attack on the flotilla, and the ongoing blockade of Gaza: She was shot in the face with a (U.S.-subsidized) tear gas grenade fired by an Israeli soldier.

[gypsyman]

TM7, that ship could be the USS Tinkerbell, with Daffy Duck as captain, Pluto as first mate. And, if I was Isreal, I'ld still inspect it. You don't think that just because of the ship came from Turkey, there couldn't have been weapons on board. Give me a break. And, as far as Isreal being a non-Nato country, smart for them. I wish this country would get some stone's and tell Nato and the UN to pack it were the sun doesn't shine.
Now, as far as the incident with the USS Liberty, absolutley agree 100%. Somebody on the Israely side should have been tried and executed for that screw up. And, for sure, somebody in our military had some blood on their hands in a cover up. Don't know after so many years, if we'll ever see the truth come out on that one. gypsyman

[powderman]

No reason for any REAL Americans to be on those ships. In essence they supporting an avowed enemy, hamas. They should be charged with treason. POWDERMAN.  

[beerbelly]

powderman, Those rag heads are not my friends! I have said before and I will say again, I would like to see both the rag heads and Israel erased from the face of the earth. That is the only way there will ever be peace over there.
   It may just come to pass  before long. When Iran gets the bomb, I think they will use it on Israel. They will retaliate and with a little luck they will wipe each other out!
                                        Beerbelly

[powderman]

BEERBELLY. The Godless ones are nobody's friends, uhhhhh, maybe one or 2 I can think of here. I know you don't support them, only 1 or 2 here do. Their God is not my God. Your eye will clear up in another day or so, then you will be able to see much better. POWDERMAN.  

[1marty]

this is my last post on this.
Seems the Christian fundementalist support the Jews and the State of Israel while the left wing liberals sit around crying for the Palistinians and the Hamas gangsters. So all those who feel so sorry for the Palistinians-the liberal Dems are looking for a few good members.

[Sourdough]

A blockade runner is knowingly going into dangerous waters.  The possiability exist that instead of being inspected, they could be blown out of the water.  If I was calling the shots for Isreal.  Any blockade runners would get one warning shot across the bow.  If that one went unheaded the next one would be below the water mark.

As for Turkey, they are a paper lion don't count on much from them.  Their war machine is all show and no go.  Oh they have great soldiers, with great attitudes.  But the funding just is not there.  Their economy just does not have the power to finance a campaign.

The guy might have been born in America, but that was an accident.  His parents were Turkish, he lived in Turkey, he was a Turk.

As for the bullets that you think was extorted from the American Taxpayer.  I don't think so, American Jews send them far more than they need to buy bullets for their army.

I'm finished with this thread.  Makes me want to volunteer for Isreali Sniper duty.  Just too hot for me even in the winter.  I know, been there already.  

[SHOOTALL]

turkey already said it would not hurt long term relations

[powderman]

As for the bullets that you think was extorted from the American Taxpayer.  I don't think so, American Jews send them far more than they need to buy bullets for their army.


We didn't pay  for them, but if we had, it was money well spent. POWDERMAN.