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19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« on: June 01, 2010, 05:01:12 AM »
International outrage. Israel commandos storm relief ship in international waters bound for Gaza. Perhaps 20 killed in the night raid. Irish female Noble Peace Price winner reported killed and Americans on board, too.  Conflicting reports on what happened...israel mostly silent, refuses media interviews of peace activists taken in custody. Turkey, once a supporter of Israeli, recalls ambassador and says it will escort 'next' relief flotilla giving speculation of what happens if Turkey, a NATO member, is attacked on high seas or elsewhere for that matter....given treaty specifics.

Why not just peacefully board the ships in day light, or lead to port for inspections...?  World wants to know.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100531/D9G22SFG0.html

Turkey pitted against Israel would be one hellacious battle...Turkey has assets and others would pile on.


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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010, 05:14:44 AM »
According to thge reports, the "activist group" who were trying to ramrod the ships through were associates of Hamas, a group recognized by the US as a terrorist organization. To intimate that it was a Turkish naval ship or an official Turkish mission would be tantamount to calling a "save the whales" gang bothering whaling ships as an official US operation.
  Israel; typically allows humanitarian goods to be offloaded at the port of Ashdod, and shipped to Gaza... but they will not allow war goods to be transferred there. Unless the activist group were trying to bring in war goods, this whole event did not need to happen.
    Since war goods are the forbidden items and the "activists" could have easily gotten them to their brethren, it seems they were either carrying war goods or attempting to prepare the way for some to come in, "peace activists" would be somewhat of a misnomer.

   Sure is comical the world over..how it seems it is usually "peace activists" who seem to start all the violence and riots.
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 06:07:13 AM »
one over the bow and then we talk ?
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2010, 06:48:47 AM »
Why the  ???















Why the  ???
When a war ship puts one over the bow one can assume it means business . So one should stop and talk .










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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2010, 07:20:11 AM »
Hey mohamed, I guess the 'human shield' thing didnt work. All liberals know how to do is surrender.  For Israel surrender is death.

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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2010, 07:30:48 AM »
 I think Israel overreacted.Why not just inspect the cargo while its being unloaded?

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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2010, 07:42:30 AM »
From what I read the ships were refusing to be boarded in a friendly manner.  So the Isreali Forces had no other option.  On the other ships boarded there were no problems, no weapons or contraband was found.  On this ship, as they landed on deck the commandos were attacked.  This was a planned attack on behalf of the people on board the ship.  Also weapons and contraband was found on this ship.  Therefore the Isreali inspection was justified.
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2010, 07:47:39 AM »
Israel war ships would have waited until daylight had the floatilla had made their move at that time.   But that was not the case.  The war ships tried for two hours to direct the floatilla to Ashdod's port, but the floatilla continued to refuse.  What else can one do when all else fails?  It is Israel's existance that is at stake, and the world wants to end it, but that ain't gonna happen.
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2010, 08:03:48 AM »
In my own openion, since the Palistinians are the ones refusing all overtures at peace.  Isreal should carpet bomb Gaza out of existance.  Then tell the rest of the Palistianens, "Shape up or ship out"!  Any that refuse or make trouble after that point, put them and their families on a boat and set it adrift in the Med.  If they return to Isreal they will be shot on sight.  End the conflict once and for all.

I think it is really stupid how people react.  Hamas starts firing missiles out of Gasa into Isreal.  Isreal retalliates and fires missles back.  Everyone condeams Isreal, they overlook the fact Hamas started it by firing missles first.  It is always Isreals fault, even when they only retalliated to aggression.  Suicide bombers come from Gaza and blow up Isreali citizens, so Isreal puts restrictions on Palastinians leaving Gaza.  Now everyone claims Isreal has no right doing that.  But Isreal is only trying to protect the general public from radical Palistinians.  Again everyone overlooks the radical side and only see Isreal as the agressor.  People and the world need to remove their blinders and look at reality.

Oh and for the Turks.  The country is nothing but a bunch of free loaders, sucking on America's tit.  The country of Turkey is so destitute, the only way they could respond is if someone loaned them the money to buy the ammo needed to attack.  Oh they may swell up and bluster, but they are a paper lion.
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2010, 08:36:32 AM »
Israel in this case is no better than the African pirates! The ships were in international waters just like the USS Liberty was when the attacked it and they murdered US sailors! Those sob are an outlaw  nation. I truly hope Iran blows the trouble making sob off t6he face of the earth.
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2010, 08:38:26 AM »
Sorta like Bill Clinton and the asprin factory ?
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2010, 08:39:01 AM »
 Suppose the UN decided to give the native peoples of North America their land back and they stuck all us whiteys in New Jersey?Would you be pissed?
 Supporting the destruction of Gaza is endorsing genocide.IMO
  

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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2010, 08:51:44 AM »
TM-7 who controls Gaza ?
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2010, 08:54:35 AM »
Hamas ? well are they not already at war ? And if so why would acts of war not be expected ?
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2010, 09:15:27 AM »
The next few days are going to be very interesting.

If it comes to war with Turkey and the Arabs, the Jews will smash them.

The lying and misrepresentation of this incident in the media is disgusting. Of course, it's not surprising that the same Liberals who are OK with disrespect of the US national border also don't care about Israel's right to safety.

Anyway, I'm glad that Canada is still sticking with the Israelis! Any country who helps them has always been blessed, and the ones who haven't, well, they get hosed. Look at Germany and Europe in general in WWII. All the Europeans sold out the Jews to the Nazis, then got smashed by the Nazis themselves, who then got smashed by the Allies. Of the Allies, Great Britain sold the Jews out a few years later, and look at the cesspool that country is now. The US gave Israel a lot of aid in the past, and they've been blessed. Now Obama is often reported to be considering the withdrawal of that support. Doesn't look good.  ;)
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2010, 09:34:38 AM »
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When we have humanitarian relief and aid ships detained, attacked, or used to further agendum of genocide and America turns a blind eye to it...we have a serious defect in the American psyche and spirit as it continues to genuflect to such barbarism and deception.


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Say what you wish, but they were warned.  The floatilla was totally unnecessary to cart humanitarian supplies to Gaza.   That was a charade.  If the world wants a piece of Israel, then bring it on, lets see who wins.
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2010, 09:55:41 AM »
Israel in this case is no better than the African pirates! The ships were in international waters just like the USS Liberty was when the attacked it and they murdered US sailors! Those sob are an outlaw  nation. I truly hope Iran blows the trouble making sob off t6he face of the earth.
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2010, 10:57:40 AM »
who controls Gaza ?

The people that won the damm election we demanded they have!
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2010, 12:55:51 PM »
Israel did what any other country would have done in the same situation, yet the world criticizes Israel. Just like they are criticized for retaliating against rocket attacks. Its always Israels fault.  The world no longer can distinguish right from wrong. Kind of like what is happening in this country.
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2010, 02:11:21 PM »
If they were truly relief workers why did they attack the Commandos?  None of the relief workers on the other ships attacked.
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2010, 02:29:16 PM »
Kinda like innocent bystanders being killed in a drug raid. Don't associate yourself with that kind of person, and might have a better chance of living. gypsyman
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2010, 03:35:27 PM »
Israel in this case is no better than the African pirates! The ships were in international waters just like the USS Liberty was when the attacked it and they murdered US sailors! Those sob are an outlaw  nation. I truly hope Iran blows the trouble making sob off t6he face of the earth.
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2010, 03:41:38 PM »
What's the big deal?
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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2010, 03:48:32 PM »
People forget that the stated goal of Hamas is the total distruction of israel. Their position has never changed. Israel in the past has let legitimate cargo continue on to Gaza after inspection. These "peace" activist were waiting to ambush the commandos when they boarded the ship. Funny how these "peaceniks" were all armed with steel pipes and knives.

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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2010, 03:58:24 PM »
Standard SOP for the terrorists, provoke a confrontation with Israel then whine about the outcome. It gives fuel to the antisemite hate mongers to push theur propaganda of hate. But the majority of people in the world see it for is a provocation by some very nasty evil animals. Nothing more nothing less. I thought about how old TM would react to this when I heard it on the news today. Just a little more fodder for his "the Jews did it" comedy routine.

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Re: 19+ killed by IDF Commando Raid on Relief Ships
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2010, 03:58:54 PM »
Israel in this case is no better than the African pirates! The ships were in international waters just like the USS Liberty was when the attacked it and they murdered US sailors! Those sob are an outlaw  nation. I truly hope Iran blows the trouble making sob off t6he face of the earth.
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I agree!

   Honest "humanitarian aid" has been allowed to go through right along. This is just a practice run by willing, suicidal lemmings..in an attempt to get the UN to stop Israel's inspections.

  The closest parallels we can find are Maggie Thatcher directing a blockade of the Falklands and JFK stopping the Soviet ships on the high seas in 1962.
  Both were correct in what they did and both had more testosterone flowing than the "community activist" we now have in the White House..
  Do you consider Thatcher and JFK both to be dead wrong ?

  Please remember; Gaza was handed back in exchange for "peace". How much peace has come about through the solemn, signed promises of "peace" by Hamas ?
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2010, 06:47:46 PM »
Israel attacked those ships in international waters! If it is OK for them then it is OK for the African pirates‘! Who the hell is Israel to tell anyone that we will blockade your waters and let you starve! I have nothing for the rag heads, but, The Israelis are no better! They murdered our US sailors, and you so called Christians say it's ok they are gods chosen people! You are willing to back a foreign power against your own people!
    Yet you same hypocrites get on here and pretend to honor our service men! Or do you only honor the one's killed by anyone other than Israel! 
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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2010, 02:53:25 AM »
I see a difference between pirate's from a rougue nation holding a ship for millions of dollars ransom, and trained commando's checking out a ship, that might have contained WMD's. The ship was under control of a religious cult, that has called for the complete destruction of Isreal. They have the common sense and the ''stone's'' to protect themselves. PC doesn't make much headway in a country that has been under almost constant attack since it's inception 60 years ago. More than I can give this country credit for on our southern border issue. gypsyman
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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2010, 02:56:49 AM »
TM speaks of building materials here as if the pali's are going to use them to build houses. Wrong again my "the Jews did it" entertainer, they use them to build tunnels and bunkers to launch their terrorist attacks with. Also most the nails aren"t use to hold things together , but in suicide belts. But as the antisemetic folks do they twist things.
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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2010, 04:32:13 AM »
Israel attacked those ships in international waters! If it is OK for them then it is OK for the African pirates‘! Who the hell is Israel to tell anyone that we will blockade your waters and let you starve! I have nothing for the rag heads, but, The Israelis are no better! They murdered our US sailors, and you so called Christians say it's ok they are gods chosen people! You are willing to back a foreign power against your own people!
    Yet you same hypocrites get on here and pretend to honor our service men! Or do you only honor the one's killed by anyone other than Israel! 
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