Author Topic: Metal Trigger Guard (Read 4001 times)

GreenMachine79 · « **on:** June 01, 2010, 08:25:48 AM »

I have a Handi in 204 Ruger and I am looking at getting one in 35 Whelen. The plastic trigger guard and spacer are cheesy looking and I would prefer to have them in steel. I've been searching the forum and couldnt find a answer, does anyone make a metal trigger guard and spacer that is a quality product?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** June 01, 2010, 08:41:53 AM »

H&R used to offer blued steel trigger guards and spacers, but not for several years, you may be able to find someone that has one to sell by posting a WTB in the H&R WTB forum. Talley was going to offer them, but with tough economic conditions they dropped the R&D on it. But other than some occasionally on Gunbroker that's it so far. $:-\$

Tim

USSColorado · « **Reply #2 on:** June 08, 2010, 07:40:13 PM »

Don't buy the Moyers one. I got one from Midway USA and it will require much modification before it will look good... like welding and filling...

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** June 08, 2010, 07:53:11 PM »

Too bad you didn't check here before buying Moyers stuff, the H&R product reviews at Midway are accurate. $:-\$

Tim

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,125031.msg1098440737.html#msg1098440737

Quote from: quickdtoo on February 07, 2008, 09:02:29 AM

I've been corresponding with Moyers Gun Repair about the lack of quality and fit on his TG and spacer, his last email was a response forwarded from another customer that complained about the poor fit, basically the same issues that have been discussed here. I even offered to send him a trigger guard so he can see what's wrong with his copy, I've sent him numerous pics showing the discrepancies in his copy which he seems to blame on us as not knowing what we're doing, he thinks that his trigger guard is an exact duplicate of a modern TG, but I think he's using something very old that has changed since he thinks the rear part won't fit a frame unless he cuts that part away like he does.

I won't be ordering any more of his TGs or spacers, maybe he'll get the message and make some improvements, he could charge a bit more money and it wouldn't be bad if he'd make them fit like they should and match current production parts. $:-\$

Tim

GreenMachine79 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2010, 08:21:08 AM »

With all that said I decided to make my own, if all goes well they should be pretty nice. I already have more time wrapped up into the project then any trigger guard is worth.

Rj 1 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2010, 09:47:50 AM »

Very nice work!!!!!!!!!!!!! Be sure to post some more pics as the work progresses.

Ten Ring · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2010, 10:13:19 AM »

Very nice if you get into production keep me in mind.
Jim

tallyho · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2010, 02:00:30 PM »

Quote from: Ten Ring on June 20, 2010, 10:13:19 AM

Very nice if you get into production keep me in mind.
Jim

Ditto.

Chas. · « **Reply #8 on:** June 20, 2010, 02:55:36 PM »

I didn't like the plastic trigger guard either so I just whacked it off with a Dremel and put a brass one on.

NFG · « **Reply #9 on:** June 20, 2010, 03:19:46 PM »

Very, VERY Excellent...I would bet you could sell every trigger guard and spacer you could make, GM, once you got the machining dialed in and the cost within reason...you might obtain a Moyers and see just what/where the problems are and resolve them...OR...You might even contact Rem to see if you could make a run to sell to them. One way to sell time on your CNC machine. I would be right in the middle of CNC production if I had the initial investment capitol for the machines and wasn't so "OLDENTARD"

Bet some would like brass for their BC's...and maybe a brass "schnobel" for the forends..ala "Quigley down under".

I would even like aluminum pieces.

I made a few steel spacers...relatively easy even on manual machines...but without CNC, doing a trigger guard is just TOO labor intensive.

Luck

GreenMachine79 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 21, 2010, 01:40:43 PM »

For the most part I am copying the original with a few small changes that wont affect fit just ease of machining. Although most of the material removal is done I still have 4 more operations to complete, I'll try to get some more done in the next few days. The idea of making them for sale has crossed my mind, although machining isn't the most cost effective method for producing a part like this it wouldn't be cheap to do. I don't want to break any forum rules so lets see how they turn out first, at the very least I should have some nice custom trigger guards.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #11 on:** June 22, 2010, 11:26:53 AM »

If you decide to offer them for sale, you'll need to comply with the GBO terms of use policy for selling here.

Tim

GreenMachine79 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 24, 2010, 12:27:04 PM »

quickdtoo, rodger that.

I made some more progress on my trigger guard today. Although it looks nearly done their is actually a fair amount of work left. I have to make a fixture to hold the trigger guard so I can machine the corner to a 90deg and mill spring pocket 1, then a second fixture to mill a 90deg and spring pocket 2, then a third fixture to hold it so I can machine the radius on the back side as well as the lightning pocket.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #13 on:** June 24, 2010, 01:16:50 PM »

Looking excellent, sounds real labor intensive, it's no wonder Talley took so long.

Tim

Swampman · « **Reply #14 on:** June 24, 2010, 02:44:05 PM »

You know I just don't see a problem with the plastic one.

GreenMachine79 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 24, 2010, 03:10:21 PM »

Their isn't a problem with the plastic one, it does everything its suppose to and its light. I prefer my guns to be made of steel, their is also an appeal knowing that my gun will out last my children's children. I'm afraid plastic parts will degrade over time, steel on the other hand will last indefinitely if kept from rusting. To each his own.

kevinsmith5 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 24, 2010, 06:02:11 PM »

Anybody know if Moyer's spacer is worth a darn? I have heard the horror stories and seen the pics of his trigger guard. The spacer is actually more of a concern to me.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #17 on:** June 24, 2010, 06:31:15 PM »

See the previous thread I posted on Moyer's, the spacer wasn't any better than his trigger guard.

Tim

kevinsmith5 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 24, 2010, 06:57:56 PM »

Well I know your opinion of the trigger guard, so I'll put that in the "so much for that" category. still plannig to eventually put the Kentucky rifle trigger guard on the BC, just gonna need a spacer....

GreenMachine79 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 02, 2010, 09:24:36 PM »

I had some time to work on the trigger guard tonight, I still have to put in the second spring pocket, square up the area around the spring pocket, and machine a radius on the back side. A couple more nights and I should be finished.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 03, 2010, 04:45:24 AM »

Oops!......I just drooled all over the keyboard.....

Deerhunter#1 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 03, 2010, 11:08:36 AM »

It really looks great. Hope it works well for you and hopefully you will be able to make them available for sale very soon.

tacklebury · « **Reply #22 on:** July 03, 2010, 06:41:40 PM »

Super nice!!

GreenMachine79 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 06, 2010, 02:58:58 PM »

All I have left now is the radii on the backside and the lightening pocket, it should be done in the next day or two.

Catshooter45 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 07, 2010, 02:02:35 PM »

Oh man, if you're not gonna offer these for sale then your posts are child abuse!

I want two in steel and one in brass.

Cat

GreenMachine79 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 09, 2010, 03:18:52 PM »

I finished the last of the machining a couple of days ago but didn't have time to post pictures. I still need to debur them and have them coated in black oxide.

dangerranger · « **Reply #26 on:** July 09, 2010, 08:28:53 PM »

Nice work! DR

tacklebury · « **Reply #27 on:** July 09, 2010, 09:54:23 PM »

You are very talented.

That really looks great.

GreenMachine79 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 12, 2010, 09:33:17 AM »

Thanks for the kind words. I am now working on a trigger to match the trigger guard perfectly, an added advantage to making a trigger is that the hole which the trigger pivots on will be reamed and then lapped to the optimal size, minimizing play.

myarmor · « **Reply #29 on:** July 12, 2010, 10:59:52 AM »

Nice work you are doing. never had a problem with the trigger though $:-\$ to each his own and you are making what you yourself want for your rifle, I totally respect that.

-Aaron