Author Topic: Israel puts 4 in the head of a US citizen (Read 8510 times)

wreckhog · « **on:** June 03, 2010, 07:43:32 AM »

Bibi is gonna have to pucker up.

American Citizen Among Those Killed in Gaza Flotilla Raid

Published June 03, 2010

A State Department official says one of the nine people killed when Israeli commandos raided a Gaza-bound flotilla of pro-Palestinian activists on Monday was a 19-year-old man with dual U.S.-Turkish citizenship.

The official identified the victim as Furkan Dogan, who was believed to have been residing in Turkey.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the matter has not been officially confirmed by the U.S. government.

The official said the victim had been shot but it was not clear who shot him. He was among eight of the dead being mourned at a funeral in Istanbul Thursday.

More exact circumstances of the activists' deaths are expected to be made clear in a ballistics examination that will take about a month to complete, Anatolia news agency reported Thursday.

An official from the Turkish Islamic charity that spearheaded the campaign to bust the blockade on Gaza identified the U.S. citizen as 19-year-old Furkan Dogan, originally from the central Turkish town of Kayseri.

Dogan, who held a U.S. passport, had four bullet wounds to the head and one to the chest, Omer Yagmur of the Foundation of Humanitarian Relief (IHH), told Anatolia.

The nine victims were all aboard the Turkish ferry, Mavi Marmara, the lead ship of the aid flotilla, where most of the violence occurred in Monday's pre-dawn raid by Israeli forces.

Sourdough · « **Reply #1 on:** June 03, 2010, 07:49:10 AM »

And another one is off, looking for his virgins.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #2 on:** June 03, 2010, 07:57:33 AM »

Let me see if I get this right.
19 year old living in Turkey with turkish citizenship is Turkish.
If he were under 18 then I can see dual citizenship but at 19 he made a desicion to live and stay in Turkey.
He was a Turkish citizen doing what Isreal thought they needed to defend them selves from and opened fire on him nad his group.
No love lost here.
If it were a US reporter that was shot and killed, again sorry, you picked the wrong side to report from.
What I want to know is why is it not OK for Isreal to defend it's self but Cuba, North Koera, Viet Nam or China it would be OK.

wreckhog · « **Reply #3 on:** June 03, 2010, 08:01:52 AM »

Quote from: mcwoodduck on June 03, 2010, 07:57:33 AM

Let me see if I get this right.
19 year old living in Turkey with turkish citizenship is Turkish.
If he were under 18 then I can see dual citizenship but at 19 he made a desicion to live and stay in Turkey.
He was a Turkish citizen doing what Isreal thought they needed to defend them selves from and opened fire on him nad his group.
No love lost here.
If it were a US reporter that was shot and killed, again sorry, you picked the wrong side to report from.
What I want to know is why is it not OK for Isreal to defend it's self but Cuba, North Koera, Viet Nam or China it would be OK.

Why isn't Ok for the flotilla crew to defend themselves? With guns they got from their attackers? That is so bad ass. Jack Bauer bad ass.

magooch · « **Reply #4 on:** June 03, 2010, 08:04:46 AM »

Well if that Furkan guy was there to cause trouble, then he probably got what he had coming.

wreckhog · « **Reply #5 on:** June 03, 2010, 08:07:35 AM »

That is funny.

Sourdough · « **Reply #6 on:** June 03, 2010, 08:13:26 AM »

Ha the guy was running a blockade. When you do that you know you are entering a danger zone. In doing so you are placing your life on the line. This Muslium lost. End of story.

magooch · « **Reply #7 on:** June 03, 2010, 08:20:10 AM »

Well, not quite the end of the story; I'm sure there's much more to come. This story has been going on for as long as I can remember and I can't see any end to it. As a matter of fact, didn't it start back before the Bible was written?

Sourdough · « **Reply #8 on:** June 03, 2010, 08:33:11 AM »

OK let me rephrase that: End of that musliums story. The saga continues.

Dee · « **Reply #9 on:** June 03, 2010, 09:54:22 AM »

I guess that proves when a man tells you not to feed his dog, you'd better stay out of his yard with a feed sack.

kynardsj · « **Reply #10 on:** June 03, 2010, 11:04:45 AM »

Quote by wreckhog...... "That is funny"

Your quote still has me laughing.

Way I figure it, if he was a U.S. citizen then he shouldn't have been where he was doing what he was doing. File it under OOPS !!! Folks gotta learn, don't mess with Isreal.

DDZ · « **Reply #11 on:** June 03, 2010, 11:59:09 AM »

Kind of stupid of him to put himself in the place he was, don't ya think? Wait, what am I thinking, it has to be Israels fault that he took four rounds to the head.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #12 on:** June 03, 2010, 12:47:32 PM »

Four rounds to the head.
Four rounds to the head.
FOUR!
That just hit me. Someone made a quaddruple tap on a boat. Again on a boat in the water hitting an object smaller than a basket ball with four rounds.
now that is trigger and recoil control.
Not sure who that Isreali is that made the shot is but i want to take shooting lessons from him.
Now that is shooting.

torpedoman · « **Reply #13 on:** June 03, 2010, 01:15:25 PM »

They should have shot the lady who was screaming about her child in danger, wonder who took the kid on a blockade runner.

Graybeard · « **Reply #14 on:** June 03, 2010, 01:26:42 PM »

You guys are trying hard to take this one to a place called the "trash can". You all know the rule on trying to substitute something for the f-word and the penalty that can carry here.

I can't buy this dude as a US citizen no matter the passport carried. He was born and lived outside the US has an obviously muzlim name and was doing muzlim business. He's no American by any stretch of imagination.

blind ear · « **Reply #15 on:** June 03, 2010, 03:29:37 PM »

China, Russia, Israiel, they take care of probems quickly, dirrectly and efficently.

highwayman · « **Reply #16 on:** June 03, 2010, 03:36:18 PM »

Quote from: Graybeard on June 03, 2010, 01:26:42 PM

You guys are trying hard to take this one to a place called the "trash can". You all know the rule on trying to substitute something for the f-word and the penalty that can carry here.

I can't buy this dude as a US citizen no matter the passport carried. He was born and lived outside the US has an obviously muzlim name and was doing muzlim business. He's no American by any stretch of imagination.

just think, he could have become our president one day.

wreckhog · « **Reply #17 on:** June 03, 2010, 04:36:35 PM »

Quote from: mcwoodduck on June 03, 2010, 12:47:32 PM

Four rounds to the head.
Four rounds to the head.
FOUR!
That just hit me. Someone made a quaddruple tap on a boat. Again on a boat in the water hitting an object smaller than a basket ball with four rounds.
now that is trigger and recoil control.
Not sure who that Isreali is that made the shot is but i want to take shooting lessons from him.
Now that is shooting.

It is pretty easy to 4 tap. Just line em up kneeling against a wall and pull the trigger 4x.

JASmith · « **Reply #18 on:** June 03, 2010, 05:59:48 PM »

Alternate possibility — one load of buckshot at 15-20 yards could put 4 in the head and 1 in the chest.

Less work pulling the trigger!

Dances with Geoducks · « **Reply #19 on:** June 03, 2010, 06:06:41 PM »

If Im coming down a rope, and thugs are trying to hit me with a pipe, then throw me over board

I wont stop at 4 shots.

gypsyman · « **Reply #20 on:** June 03, 2010, 08:12:35 PM »

More proof that a .45 is better than a 9mm. gypsyman

teamnelson · « **Reply #21 on:** June 03, 2010, 08:51:44 PM »

Did you read today's reporting? The supposed film clips of wounded agressors were filmed in daylight ... the operation was at night. Lots of brass was collected on the scene in calibers not used by IDF, but matching wounds to the IDF. And amongst the 100 detained, of 700, they had over a million euros on their persons. Also among the items of peace were NVGs, plates for bodyarmor. Israel brought in all the non-combat related items to Gaza on their own dime ... the big meanies.

Does Israel do bad things? Yes. But this ain't one of them per the reporting.

beerbelly · « **Reply #22 on:** June 04, 2010, 02:13:13 AM »

And you don't think Israel can put out fake evidence, like they did while trying to frame the USA for a bombing they were going to do? You guys will buy anyone's propaganda!
Beerbelly

billy_56081 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 04, 2010, 02:40:32 AM »

Well some people deserve killing. I bet he was a BO voter.

JASmith · « **Reply #24 on:** June 04, 2010, 04:03:48 AM »

I normally try to avoid getting embroiled in political discussions, but the post by TM7 above suckered me in!

US troops getting between the Muslim world and Israel?

Also, there's plenty of blame, suspected set-ups, imagined or real falsifying evidence to go around.

The "aid flotilla" was there to create an incident (my speculation, but I can see no other explanation that fits the action). The IDF cooperated. The only surprise (to me at least) was that the confrontation wasn't a lot more violent.

JASmith · « **Reply #25 on:** June 04, 2010, 04:49:21 AM »

We're not on the same page. 'Nuf said...

billy_56081 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 04, 2010, 05:15:35 AM »

The only downside I see to this is that they let so many live. The only people that could think this is a bad thing would be followers of Hitler, Farrakahn and other hate mongering antisemites.

Dee · « **Reply #27 on:** June 04, 2010, 05:51:23 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on June 04, 2010, 04:35:07 AM

JAS...not trying sucker anyone.....Point is the US of A is not allowed to have 'bases' in israel, except a couple of storage depots which the israelis have free access to....how's that for your tax dollars being spent?.

Unfortunately and ignorantly...the USA is between israel and the moslem world in Iracq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and likely Iran coming up....and has been for 50 years and our troops are dieing primarily for them as our country is rendered bankrupt...cui bono?!

Naturally, the freedom aid flotilla was in part to create great notice in the civilized world...Afterall, they want the inhumane and illegal blockade lifted...that is their stated intention,,,to relief some misery in the Gaza concentration camp and move toward normalization of life for Palestinians. At some point the Balfour Agreement must be honored.

If the pirate terror raid was an outright Biblical slaughter it would have been unspinable...unless of course they could have sunk the ship and made it disappear...instead this was meant to be a 'political' statement on the order of lunacy...no civilized country needs to carry on inspections in such a manner. And no...I don't believe God was or is a real estate agent..

..TM7
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How many bases do other countries have in the U.S.?

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #28 on:** June 04, 2010, 06:13:22 AM »

Dee ya beat me to it ! And when did being American give one the right to break laws in other olaces ? The idoit that got shot was dumb ! Hey when dealing with guys with guns either obey their rules , in this case DON"T COME HERE " or be ready to fight or die.
Its like crossing at the corner in the lined walk way . You have the right of way but if you step out in front of a speeding car you may be dead right ! These guys may have been in international waters but they saw what was comming and steped out .

teamnelson · « **Reply #29 on:** June 04, 2010, 07:52:28 AM »

Or for those that are not already biased against Israel, the facts may very likely reveal the IDF was absolutely correct and the falsification was commited by the flotilla. Seriously, some folks will blame Israel even in the face of bold facts to the contrary and defraud those seeking truths as zionwoevangelicals. Where is the truth in that?

As for the American/Turkish dual citizen ... have we not had this discussion about dual loyalties?

It all boils down to who you choose to believe, but don't tell me you are fair and impartial.