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Inline advice
« on: June 04, 2010, 12:24:01 PM »
I'm looking to get my son a inline muzzleloader. I know absolutely nothing about inlines, I'm a traditional guy myself. I'm looking for something decent that wont break the bank, about $200 or so. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Inline advice
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2010, 02:19:13 PM »
the new cva wolf is in reach and a great rifle for only $200 and some change.

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Re: Inline advice
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2010, 12:29:19 AM »
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Re: Inline advice
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2010, 05:36:22 AM »
Some important things to consider are the game regulations in your area.Some states dont permit 209 primers ,closed breech designs etc and these will restrict your choices considerably if you plan to hunt strictly in the primative/muzzleloader season.If you use it for regular season then its less of an issue. A good choice for just about anywhere are the striker fied inlines( T/C Black Diamond,Knight wolverine/American, CVA 's of various models etc.Because these designs are no longer " cutting edge" , they are generally inexpensive.They are alittle more labor intensive regarding cleaning and they can be hard on scope finishes, but its not a big issue.I retired my Omega in favor of a Black Diamond XR .50 cal and have not regretted the choice for a second.The BD is superbly accurate , utterly reliable and anywhere I can hunt with an inline I can take the Black Diamond.One thing though, unless you know what you're looking for , or know someone who's very familar with muzzleloaders/inlines, I STRONGLY urge you to avoid used muzzleloaders.There can be issues such as worn muzzles,corrosion from improper( or lack of) cleaning,frozen breech plugs and more.Best to get a new rifle ( and warranty) and avoid the headaches.The Knight American is an excellent rifle ( alittle short barrelled for my taste..).The T/C black Diamond ( regular or the longer barrelled XR) is no longer in production but can still be found new in box ( NIB) with alittle careful snooping an I HIGHLY recommend it.Another not often mentioned advantage of the striker fired models over the drop block/break open designs are their full length rammers.With the full lenght you have a stronger rammer for tight loads and for the occasions you have to pull a charge its infinately superior to the telescoping rods found on some break opens and not having to pack a rammer extension( which you will need to load and swab between shots)is also nice.  Best of luck
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Re: Inline advice
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2010, 03:02:18 PM »
You can get a CVA Hunter bolt mag in 45 or 50 cal for around 150.00 new, they also have a starter kit with everything, scope, bullets, cleaning stuff ,just have to get powder and primers for about 225 but as said check your state reg before you buy.

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Re: Inline advice
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2010, 03:10:46 PM »
I'd try to find something American made.  Knight or T/C.
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Re: Inline advice
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2010, 09:17:47 PM »
i like swampmans way of thinking americam made all the way for me t/c encore for me.

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Re: Inline advice
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2010, 10:05:06 PM »
Put the remington 700ML on your list. A little more work to clean, but it's accurate and sturdy. I bet you can find one used for around 200.
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Re: Inline advice
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2010, 07:20:08 PM »
I'm looking to get my son a inline muzzleloader. I know absolutely nothing about inlines, I'm a traditional guy myself. I'm looking for something decent that wont break the bank, about $200 or so. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Rob

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http://www.truglo.com/IW_Products.m4p.pvx?;MULTI_ITEM_SUBMIT (select Ghost Ring/F globe from the drop down )
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Re: Inline advice
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2010, 08:40:25 AM »
I now shoot savages (smokeless), but if I had to go back to BP or subs, I'd pick up my rem 700 ml. Even it had a problem. Blowback into the firing pin spring. These must be disassembled and cleaned regularly. I store mine took apart,wrapped in a bore butter soaked rag.I suspect that is why they stopped making them.If you guard against this,its a fine piece. Buying used is a risk so inspect closely. I'd rather have a used 700ml (209 converted) than anything around your price range new. On the 700's I found the blued guns to be a bit more accurate than the SS,but maybe thats just my experience. Good luck.

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Re: Inline advice
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2010, 12:25:41 PM »
I would avoid the bore butter.  Break Free is much better.
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Re: Inline advice
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2010, 01:24:53 PM »
I would avoid the bore butter.  Break Free is much better.

I'll second that. Save bore butter for patched round balls.

Never tried break free but i use birchwood casey Barricade, Montana xtreme bore oil & their bore conditioner.

Now if you really want a hard to clean gun to clean up easy, check out Ultra Coatings, Ultra Gun Shield.  I did my Optima last night and took it shooting today. Cleaned the action with a simple windex wipe.

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Re: Inline advice
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2010, 01:46:40 PM »
I played with a T/C Impact today.  I was impressed.
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Re: Inline advice
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2010, 03:24:26 PM »

Now if you really want a hard to clean gun to clean up easy, check out Ultra Coatings, Ultra Gun Shield.  I did my Optima last night and took it shooting today. Cleaned the action with a simple windex wipe.
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Wow, that stuff sounds great.  May have to get a kit to try.  Thanks for the info. 

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