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Offline teamnelson

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Cloward-Piven Strategy
« on: June 07, 2010, 07:41:25 AM »
Strategy to overwhelm government to force massive change, from the founders of ACORN.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/clowardpiven_government.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy

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The ultimate objective of this strategy—to wipe out poverty by establishing a guaranteed annual income—will be questioned by some. Because the ideal of individual social and economic mobility has deep roots, even activists seem reluctant to call for national programs to eliminate poverty by the outright redistribution of income.

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Stu Tarlowe writes: "Thus, Cloward-Piven's goals are served by more and more aliens flooding across the border and filling jails, emergency rooms and welfare rolls. It is also served by the mortgage crisis; in fact, Professors Cloward and Piven were the creators of ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now), which helped pressure banks to implement the lending policies that precipitated that crisis. But Cloward-Piven seeks a financial crisis far wider-ranging and more encompassing than a mere mortgage meltdown.

So if the oil spill in the Gulf manages to destroy the fishing and tourist industries in that region, shut down oil drilling, raise the price of oil and of food all over the country, and bring more and more Americans to a financial breaking point and thus dependent on food stamps and other government programs, Obama and Co. will smile and nod at one another as the Cloward-Piven strategy hums merrily along."
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Re: Cloward-Piven Strategy
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2010, 01:58:19 PM »
I think it will break down into total anarchy before it can get to where Obama and the like think it's going to be. Truck is getting to full, and more piling on. It'll break. And, the way things are going, we don't have much time. gypsyman
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Re: Cloward-Piven Strategy
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2010, 02:10:40 PM »
I've been thinking of it like this ... USofA is on steam engine to the abyss, and the engineer (Obama) is calling for more coal. But he's just one of many with a shovel in his hands, so its a coin toss as to who will put the deciding shovelful in the box. Meanwhile much of America is either in the dining car or the sleeping car.

Its just interesting that there is a strategy to break America so bad that socialism is the only answer.

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Re: Cloward-Piven Strategy
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2010, 02:43:35 PM »
I studied this in high school my teacher was a socialist liberal hippie and was a champion of this garbage.
The strategy is workable only to the point at which the collapse occurs or is imminent.
The flaw is the assumption that all of the people are of the same mind ie socialists.
The most likely scenario will be a break up of the union before the strategy is in total effect.
Other likely endings could be civil war, or invasion by foreign powers do to our weakened state.
To his credit my teacher did give me the chance to put forth my argument in front of the class which turned out very well for me.
It was an extra credit assignment and he gave me top marks for it.
I could never tell if he was just fair or was hoping it would shut me up.
My usual answer to one of his questions was " Do you want what the book says and you want me to say or the truth?" ;D
Back on subject Our most powerful weapon to fight the CP strategy or any kind of socialism is gaining better control of our state and local governments.
This down plays the role of the federal government and limits it's ability to take the whole union down the toilet at once.

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Re: Cloward-Piven Strategy
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2010, 03:06:24 PM »
Still, one of the preliminary steps would be to take our guns.  For me, that would be the last step.
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Re: Cloward-Piven Strategy
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2010, 03:18:07 PM »
magooch, in looking at this I no longer think they'll take guns first. I think the goal is to create such fear & chaos amongst everyone that it makes gun control a sideburner issue. They'll legislate around it, raise the costs, limit the use. But CP strategists are convinced we'll actually turn them in for the greater good, once we see the wisdom of a socialist state. Look at Europe - didn't have to take a single gun over there.
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Re: Cloward-Piven Strategy
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2010, 04:19:51 PM »
 when they are listening to all the clapping for them ..by obama an the rest of the anti gunner..

 they better pay attention ..one of them claps might sound a little different than the rest.. jmo slim
ps. but heck.. don t pay attention to this ole crazy fart..they just waitin for all the pro gun oldtimers who would actually fight to preserve that right,,to just die off.again jmo