Author Topic: Bobwhite Patterns?  (Read 1518 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline swampthing

  • Trade Count: (6)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 517
Bobwhite Patterns?
« on: June 09, 2010, 12:45:11 PM »
Anybody ever pattern thier CZ, SXS's? How well were the barrells regulated? I understand that they each "should" be regulated to center the pattern at 40 yds! Are they even close?

Offline rws2

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 21
  • Gender: Male
Re: Bobwhite Patterns?
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2010, 09:39:39 AM »
Well I did an informal patterning test of my Bobwhite 28ga. when I got it and it shot point of aim at about 35yds.
 What I did was shoot a leaves floating on my pond, one with each barrel and the pattern looked centered.

Since then I've taken many Woodcock and several Grouse with the little 28ga. Bobwhite. It shoots where I look and point.

Its been reliable with no problems the past 3yrs I've had it. Not really what you are looking for in an answer but I hope it helps some! :)

Offline swampthing

  • Trade Count: (6)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 517
Re: Bobwhite Patterns?
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 02:48:58 PM »
Absolutely. Just started on patterning for wingshooting, never did that except for turkey. I got my 20 in front of some paper the other day and had similar results. Patterns center around 40yds and pretty uniform as well with the factory chokes.

Offline rws2

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 21
  • Gender: Male
Re: Bobwhite Patterns?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2010, 09:13:43 AM »
My huntin partner John and I bought our Bobwhites together but he opted for a 20ga. He's never paterned it but birds keep falling from the sky. He doesn't miss very often with it!

I absolutely love my 28ga. at 5lb. 12oz. can carry it all day and it impresses me.
Johns 20ga. with 26in bbl's weighs 6lb. 4oz.

Both have preformed exellent on grouse and woodcock!

Offline Graybeard

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (69)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26941
  • Gender: Male
Re: Bobwhite Patterns?
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2010, 11:39:14 AM »
I'm of the opinion that patterning a wing shooting gun is a waste of time and ammo. I am amazed folks keep doing it. Bob Brister in his book Shotguns the art and science did it right. He used moving targets to pattern shotguns since if you are wingshooting your target is moving.

What you see on a stationary pattern sheet is not what your real patter looks like when fired at a moving target. It will be worse for sure on moving targets the question is how much worse.

I do all my patterning on the skeet range. I can tell by how well I break the targets if my patter has the density I want and if it is hitting where I point it while actually wing shooting. I'm of the opinion any other kinda patterning other than for turkey guns is wasted time and ammo.


Bill aka the Graybeard
President, Graybeard Outdoor Enterprises
256-435-1125

I am not a lawyer and do not give legal advice.

Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life anyone who believes in Him will have everlasting life!

Offline rws2

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 21
  • Gender: Male
Re: Bobwhite Patterns?
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2010, 04:02:31 AM »
I respectfully disagree that patterning a wingshooting gun is a waste of time!

Had I patterned mine goose gun I'd have saved lots of money in shells and less cripples. Even just one shot on paper would have saved me lots of time and money.

My case: I bought a Mossy 935 to goose hunt with. Took it out and missed goose after goose or crippled them up. This went for several trips. I was thinking well its just me not getting the lead right, maybe the wrong choke for the situation? All I knew was I was missing and or crippling geese.

So I went and set up a 4ft x 4ft target and shot the gun at 20yds. It was hitting over a foot low at 20. Took another out to 40yds and it was over 2 1/2ft low! That gun went down the road. 2 shells and 20 minutes of my time was all it took to realize this thing shoots nowhere near point of aim.

Next shotgun I bought (not for goose hunting) was the CZ Bobwhite and with memorys of the Mossy 935 still etched in my head I went down to my pond and picked out a leaf floating on the water. Shot and saw it was centered with the right bbl, picked out another and shot and saw it was centered with the left bbl. 2 shells, 5 minutes and I was done.

I sure wish I had shot the Mossy 935 before I went out on a shell wasting goose crippling series of hunts. I'd have saved lots of money in shells, geese from crippling wounds and the frustration of wondering why am I shooting so bad.

I guess I could have took it to the skeet range and shot up a box or two of shells and figured out it was no wingshooting gun. Then went and patterned it and found out that it shoots way low to point of aim.

Offline mwfoley

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 6
  • Gender: Male
  • Navy Double Distinguished
Re: Bobwhite Patterns?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2010, 11:09:31 AM »
I have a CZ Bobwhite 410.

I patterned the fist one at 25 yards and the right barrel was about 10 inches to the right.

I called CZ and they asked me to send it back and that they would replace it.

The both barrels on the second one shot about 3 inches to the right and this is
because I am left handed.  It shoots in the center for my right handed son.

If you have a problem with it CZ will replace it for you.