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Offline markp

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NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK
« on: June 09, 2010, 03:00:04 PM »
   As great of a gun as the new model blackhawk is one thing escapes me. Why are the ejector rods not cut long enough to push the brass
clear of the cilinder ??  Am I missing some logic here ? It seems regardless of the barrel length the ejector rod falls short of expelling the
brass.  If the rod was long enough you would have the option of pushing the brass clear or pushing it out just far enough to grab it. 

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Re: NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2010, 03:25:36 PM »
I never thought about it really as my brass usually falls right out! ::)
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Re: NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 01:33:00 AM »
its just a traditional lenght. Colts are the same. They make them to go to the end of a 4 5/8s gun. I woud guess another thing is they dont want to tool up for two differnt lenghts.
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Re: NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2010, 01:55:32 AM »
i have the same issue with my NMB, the ejector rod seem about 3/8" to short..
but my NM vaquero is a bit too long if anything..
i just figured it was a .45colt thing, the vaquero is chambered in .357mag

the next question is, can the blackhawks rod be replaced with a longer one ?

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Re: NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2010, 02:27:46 AM »
I believe that the NM Vaquero addressed the short rod as well as cylinder hole alignment at the gate.

While I don't own a NM, it didnt take me long to learn to bottom out the short rod with just a few k's of the head stamp hung on the frame. After this, just a subtle movement of the cylinder finds the empty resting in my palm with all six being done quicker than the time it took to type this.

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Re: NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2010, 06:37:24 AM »
People commonly go to the longer EJR and housing used on the 357 Maximum, 10 inch SBHs, and the Super Blackhawk Hunter on custom Blackhawks..  While the standard EJR housing needs a 4 5/8 barrel I believe the Max and Hunter EJR housing needs at least a 5 inch..  I'd think that if you had enough barrel you could always drill and tap another hole for the longer EJR and housing..

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Re: NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2010, 04:02:11 AM »
I too find that a bit annoying and have modified a couple of them. I shorten the cylinder base pin and the ejector rod return spring to allow a bit more travel. That will gain about 1/4" of ejector travel. If you still want more you can weld an extension onto the end of the rod so that it protrudes from the housing just short of the cylinder face. With both mods it will lift a magnum case fully clear of the chamber.
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Re: NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2010, 07:00:33 AM »
Rather than putting a new ejector rod and housing on your firearm, you need someone to teach you how to use the one you have!!.  If you have to pull ANY expended brass out of your cylinder, something is WRONG!!  If you ever have to use the ejector rod to remove a loaded round, something is WRONG.  Most of the time the WRONG = DIRT!!!

My dad taught me to shoot his Rugers back in about 1972 or 1973.  The ejector rod is to flip the brass into your open palm.  Open the loading gate, flick the rod with your finger and the empty brass should FLY into a waiting palm or out onto the ground.   You should not have to reach in to pull it out. 

When my Rugers and FAs are super clean, the first few cylinders full may not even need to have the ejector rod used to take out the empties. 

Now some nay sayer is going to say, "Shag, you shoot whimpy loads.  Your brass is not expanding like mine is."  My loads are not whimpy, not even my "mild" loads.  I have "mild" and "wild" for each of my revolvers.  Even the wild loads will extract empties into open palm held at loading gate.

Go clean your gun....dammmmmmmit.   ???

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Re: NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2010, 08:09:39 AM »
Some Ruger cylinders come from the factory a little rough and with med to stout loads can bind some.  My son's did and it was spotlessly clean; I took some polishing compound and a drill with a slightly under bore size dowel and slit the dowel and inserted a small amt of cotton cloth , enough for at least one complete turn and checked for snug, not tight fit, soaked tip in polishing compound and ran drill for a short time in each cylinder, tried fired cartridge and repeated as necessary, had slick cylinders that dump even hot rounds with gravity to very little push.

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Re: NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2010, 07:11:47 AM »
Muzzle up, open the gate, rotate the cyl. and most brass should fall out, if not, a quick jab of the rod and the brass should pop right out.
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Re: NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2010, 05:58:46 AM »
Muzzle up, open the gate, rotate the cyl. and most brass should fall out, if not, a quick jab of the rod and the brass should pop right out.

 I agreee! A quick jab, really brisk, almost always clears the brass for me. I tilt the muzzle up a bit too to let gravity help. The shorter 3-1/2" bbls can be more of a problem, but I just work the ejector rod faster.
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Re: NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2010, 06:10:47 AM »
As several others stated, the initial punch on the brass should be enough to pop the entire cartridge out, especially if your muzzle is pointed upward at least 30 degrees.  Sometimes you shouldn't even need to pop them out at all, they should nearly fall out if the gun is tipped up.  If your having problems with that, then there is probably something wrong with your brass, the cylinder, or your loads.  I'd suspect your loads first.

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Re: NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2010, 02:54:31 PM »
Thanks for the comments Guys.

It appears I am not the only one who sees this as a minor anoyance.


Happy shooting ! Long life the Blackhawk and our constitution !

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Re: NEW MODEL BLACKHAWK
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2010, 10:57:40 AM »
Thanks for the comments Guys.

It appears I am not the only one who sees this as a minor anoyance.


Happy shooting ! Long life the Blackhawk and our constitution !

Enjoy that Blackhawk, ejection is just a minor thing. You will quickly learn how to work it so it unloads quickly, & guess what???? All the emptys are in your hand not in the brush for you to chase on your hands & knees ;D ;D ;D Seriously, once you have taken it out into the hills a few times you'll never look back. Those SAs are a real fun gun & the Ruger is one of the strongest that gives the least trouble,& with the transfer bar you can safely load 6. I predict you will develop a real like for it by the 3rd trip to the hills.
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