Like we don't already have enough debt!

[Brett]

The US is in the biggest financial hole ever.  Millions of Americans unemployed, thousands here have lost or are losing homes, public schools are in a shambles having to drop programs like art sports and music due to lack of money, our cities are full of homeless people living on the streets, we have the largest environmental disaster ever in history in our back yard and "O" is pledging to give more of OUR money to foreign aid!   


 Obama pledges $400 million for Palestinians
Obama had planned the White House meeting with Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas to talk mainly about Mideast peace. But after the aid flotilla assault, they ended up focusing on the blockade of Gaza.
By Christi Parsons, Los Angeles Times

President Obama pledged an infusion of $400 million in aid for housing, school construction and business development in the Palestinian territories Wednesday,   

[powderman]

What a waste. Let their Godless brothers and sisters support them. No reason for American money to be spent there. They will trash anything that gets built. Kinda like laying carpet and planting flowers in a pig pen. We have REAL Americans who need help. POWDERMAN. 

[skarke]

Times, they are a changin'

[gypsyman]

He's just greasing up the slide. I wonder if he knows what's going to happen when we hit bottom? gypsyman

[LONGTOM]

Our so called "LEADERS" are so out of touch with reallity and the needs of AMERICANS that it is almost laughable.
When are they going to listen to what we the people are saying.
Our founding fathers never intended for AMERICA to be run like this.
Nor did they intend for us to be the life saver of the rest of the world.
Can our country ever be put back on the right track?
Only time will tell.
I do know that we need to clean house this fall and elect those that trully have the instrest of AMERICA at heart no matter which side of the party lines they fall.
I am tried of all the dem, rep, third party politics.
Forget who's side you are on and just do what's right for the good old US for once!
It is times like these that we need real leaders to step up and take charge and do what is necessary to correct the mistakes that the idoits in power have set in motion.
Man, what were the people thinking when they voted for some of these clowns?



LONGTOM

[Dixie Dude]

I've read that if China let their currency float like ours, their imports would immediatly go up about 40% and would cut about half our trade deficit with them.  We can also, within 5 years cut imported oil, which is half of our trade deficit.  If China doesn't let their currency float, tack on an import tarriff of 40%.  With the trade deficit gone, all that money going overseas would stay home and provide jobs here.  

Drilling or manufacturing our own synthetic fuel, would provide jobs here.

These are simple things that could kickstart our ecomomy.  

Now, getting the government out of the health care business, cutting foreign aid, getting rid of illegals, cutting welfare projects to the bare bone, would get us back in balance.

Having a flat income tax would eliminate 200,000 IRS jobs.  Eliminate corporate income tax for corporations that provide health care insurance and retirements, and for those who start up new business for at least 5 years.  

[skarke]

DD,

I concur; but, a Chinese floating currency isn't going to happen.  Think about it:

1.  Who would it benefit?  Us, not them.
2.  The Chinese (and everybody else) is bleeding what's left of the capital from our shores, then they'll cut us off.  Can anybody say The United States of Greece?
3.  Production of fossil fuels in the US just took the fatal shot to the skull yesterday with the Executive Order granting the EPA power to implement Cap and Tax outside of legislative oversight.  I know, unconstitutional, right?  Wrong, the SCOTUS granted the EPA this very power earlier, setting the precedence, and the path.

No boys (and Heather, I miss seeing her posts), we are knee deep in it.  We have a society of whiners addicted to the milk of other people's money.  Our system of government is failing, we are headed toward economic, then political collapse.

The good news is that God is in control, and He has a glorious plan for us, here, or hereafter.

Austerity?  how about this: if you don't work, or didn't if you are truly beyond wagon pulling, then you don't eat.  You also don't get to play the law suit lottery because you got a splinter in your finger 30 years ago while holding a shovel while watching others work.

I digress, but my point remains.  If we don't RADICALLY change the size and scope of the US government, it is all from here forward, academic.

[Dixie Dude]

Congress can overrule and executive order by vote.  You are not going to get it until it changes.  So by decree our power will go up as well as gasoline costs.  EPA as well as OSHA, Commerce Department, etc, are only to regulate based on laws passed, not by decree.  This executive order gives EPA power to demand or mandate.  So much for stimulating the economy. 

[blind ear]

China's locked currency also keeps thier labor wages low, that keeps our coorporations investing in manufactureing over there which keeps jobs from being created here. Most of that saveing doesn't show up at WalMart, it shows up in the coorporate bottom line.

Tarrifs have been effective in the past, and are still used in most import export situations, as the political tools that they are.

[ironglow]

He's just greasing up the slide. I wonder if he knows what's going to happen when we hit bottom? gypsyman

  Gypsyman;
  I think he knows full well what will happen when we hit bottom..likely that is exactly what he wants..

  PM;
    Yes their brothers should be helping them out..but who says that is not precisely what's happening when Obammie hands them $400,000,000 ?  
  BTW: their "sisters"  don't have a thing to say, remember, their voices don't count for *@#*& !

[Dixie Dude]

Cap and trade will cost.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504383_162-5314040-504383.html


Obama has also gutted the space program.  As of now the shuttles are going to be retired the end of this year.  We have no space access except through paying Russia for rides on the Soyuz.  No plans for shuttles replacement.  Elon Musk with SpaceX corp is going to have a 7 man capsule ready in about 3 years, but that is a gap.  The space program only gets 15 billion a year, but we can give the banks, GM and Chrysler 790 billion?  We are now regulated to only launching satelites on the Atlas V and Delta IV rockets, that the defence department helped Lockheed and Boeing to develop several years ago.

[bearmgc]

We're going down that road, courtesy of the Progressives and radical Left. We keep posting these threads like we actually think that the Administrative machine is incompetent. Actually they're very competent in their intent, right down to the handling of the BP spill. Instead of posting endless rants about incompetent government, we should be finding ways right now to oust incumbants, and find suitable candidates for the next big one in 2012, if our country lasts that long.

[ironglow]

  
Iis this $400 million IN ADDITION to the $900,000,000  worth of candy Hillary handed the terrorists last year ?  
   http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?sid=arLIrDoPmL9E&pid=20601070

    They already have some valuable territory in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip... If those lazy whelps would give up terrorism and get to work, they could carve out a nice homeland of their own !

   ...But the angel's prophesy in (Genesis 16:10-12) ..still holds true, of course..

[Dixie Dude]

I think there is a sinister motive for gutting the space program....Military superiority.  ATK based in Utah (red state) makes and reloads the solid rocket boosters.  They also make the Minute Man ICBM and the Poseiden submarine missles.  The space shuttle was the only thing they were making recently.  (They also own Federal Cartridge corp.)  So, if we are no longer making solid rockets and solid rocket fuel, they will have to lay off and shut down, crippling our defence capabilities.  Lockheed and Boeing can make money selling private aircraft, and their liquid fueled rockets are used to launch military and commercial satelites.  ATK recieves most of their money from Nasa and the military.  Lockheed is now based in Colorado (moved from California because of bad business climate).  Boeing has plants in Washington State and Alabama (Delta IV rockets).  So, Obama wants to hurt contractors from red states.  Shuttle tanks were made in Mississippi and shipped by barge to Florida. Mississippi is a red state like Utah.  Alabama has Marshall Spacefight center in Huntsville which designs an coordinates Nasa's manned spaceflight programs.  Another layoff without shuttle flying.  Also Houston controls flights after they leave the ground, another layoff in a red state. 

[skarke]

DD,

Bravo and ditto.

[powderman]

Duh!....They were getting supported by 'friends'...but the IDF 'inspected' them.


YEP. Gas masks, bullet proof vests, night vision equipment, concrete and lumber to rebuild smuggling tunnels. Sure would feed a  lot of folks, heal the sick, etc. Those ships were all about kicking the dog and inciting more violence, they achieved their goal. Your buds need to leave occupied Israel, go to Egypt, before they shut the door again, and quit murdering innocents. POWDERMAN. 

[blind ear]

Has anyone else noticed how many "name brands" are disappearing from WalMart shelves to be replaced by generic "Best Price" brand?

[Dixie Dude]

Yes, it is made in China.

[nw_hunter]

Man, what were the people thinking when they voted for some of these clowns?



LONGTOM

Well! If you voted, you probably voted for one of these clowns!
You had McCain clown, and Obama clown...........Pick your clown.

Most picked the "O" clown it would appear! Some of us (a small minority) voted for a third choice.