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My Quail Project, buying, hatching, etc.
« on: June 13, 2010, 06:08:36 PM »
Hey all thought i'd share what i'm up too.

Bought 18 bobwhite quail, and 12 Tennessee red Quail off of Ebay.
Found a seller with both eggs auctions ending near of each other. So combination shipping cut the price in half.

Built a double decker egg holder, so i could put my mini-cornish and fancy mini-cochin eggs also. My incubator turner trays only hold 42 eggs, So I cut a few egg cartons and taped them to the top of the turners, since the bobwhite quail eggs are so tiny. I didn't want to waste space. Had the smaller eggs on top and bottom, turning at the same time. the egg turners turn the eggs more then 6-10 times a day, so the embryo doesn't stick to the side of the egg.

Many people hand turn their eggs, but i've found that my hatch rate has almost more than doubled because I am not in the incubator 3-4 times a day, making the temp and humidity fluctuate.





I set the eggs on Sunday, June 6. The chicken eggs are due the 27th they take 21 days to hatch, quail eggs are to hatch at 23-25 days, 29th or 30th of June.
I will set the egg trays in the incubator when i put the chicken eggs down flat, lock down, when i don't get into the incubator the last 2 days.

I'll candle my eggs in the next few days to show you what they look like after a week in the incubator.

Hope you enjoy my project.
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2010, 02:28:27 AM »
Your not concerned with mixing the breeds?

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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2010, 05:35:36 AM »
They will have separate housing after hatching if that's what you mean.
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2010, 06:00:42 PM »
Well will be hitting the 2 week mark this Sunday, wanted to show you all the progress in the eggs so far...

This is a dud... looks like it may have started, but no veins and it will glow yellow.


I have 3 duds so far, either quite growing or weren't fertile.

The others are all progressing nicely. Holding the egg partially in my hand with a small mag lite, I can let light shine right into the air sac on top.

This one has nice veins, and a small chick inside, moving around like a yo-yo.


One of my larger chicken eggs...
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2010, 06:08:30 PM »
looking good jane may try hatching quail next spring myself , were did you get the eggs?
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2010, 06:12:52 PM »
I got these off Ebay, first time I've ever bought off there, I sell my chicken eggs during the winter on Ebay. I am going to keep these and raise for hatching eggs/training birds. No one around my area has them.
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2010, 06:58:12 PM »
Good luck with your hatch!
Do not know if you are well acquainted with the Tennessee Reds , but the can be " ferocious"!! :D
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2010, 05:46:49 AM »
This is so cool...Good luck and keep us posted.  8)
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2010, 06:39:37 PM »
Well I have officially 3 more days until hatch time. Eggs start to darken up right now, cause'n they are filled with little babies now. I candled them again a few nights ago and found another dud, but that's ok, there's bound to be some.

(some more info. I'm using a Forced air, which has a fan, and temp control on it, just a styrofoam incubator. i have 3 thermometers, 1 stick, 2 digitals, sometimes the sticks are off 1-3 degrees. Forced air keeps a more consistent temp inside with no hot/cold spots)

Took pics of what I can see now. Tomorrow will lay them flat on the mesh grate inside, i have found that putting a liner of shelving/drawer liner that's holey and has some grip holds the eggs, while the chicks move around and also makes for easier clean up. My first 2 attempts at hatching the poor incubator looked like battle fields.

Also noticing that the humidity is raising slightly which is a good sign. I have kept the eggs at a steady 99.5 F with 50-60% humidity the entire time, the humidity is raising because they are beginning to move alot more and have gained their own body heat. The humidity in it now is at 70%.

It's important that the humidity stays at 70-80% during hatching, as the chicks will pip in one spot, breaking the air sac area or side of the egg, they can remain this way for 12-20 hours, sometimes less. Then after all that work, they begin 'zipping' as I call it, breaking the egg all the way around. The way their legs are positioned in the egg, will help that last little KICK needed to pop the top. During zipping they move around in the egg to get to the next spot to break. If the humidity is low, they will sometimes get shrink wrapped by the membrane that they are in. Humidity helps them slide around in the egg.

I just bought a new incubator, a still air (no fan), which I will use for when they pop out. My mother-in-law, sister-in-law, and I have lost chicks in the egg, due to the popped chicks running around flipping pipped eggs over. The fluid in the egg will drown them, especially if the humidity is too high.

Well enough rambling for tonight... Here's the pics.
(stay tuned this weekend, I always have some that come early)


Veins are very important, chick moving around great and a few look like they will pip soon.
They will absorb the rest of the yolk inside of the bellies and the veins on the inside of the egg will drain the rest of blood into their bodies. Helping them out, I have learned isn't an option. if they are not strong enough to do it themselves it's better off. They will never grow right and will have more problems developing. I helped one out that was not progressing after 25 hours, it's stomach didn't absorb all the stuff yet, and the veins were still full. A horrid learning experience, didn't live past the 4 day.

My set up. Temp is low cause i just took pics. Very happy with the double decker bobwhite egg holders i made.
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2010, 11:47:35 AM »
Well chicks are 70% out. Have 16, nope one just popped out, 17 babies. This is an excellent hatch every egg in the bator is pipped, doesn't mean they will all hatch, but it's great to see!

Came home after paper route with kids and there are 3 quail eggs pipped. So my quail will be hatching late tonight or tomorrow as well.

This is the zipping I was talking about.


This is all the way zipped around, now just a few more leg pushes....


And SHE's out...


Here's most of them the newest are still in the bator.


The quail eggs are about the size of your thumb nail length and width.
1/3 the size of chicken eggs, I've never hatch anything that small yet Can't wait.
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2010, 12:51:29 PM »
When I did this a few years back I found out that you have to leave the chicks in the incubator for about 24 hours until their feet straighten out.

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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2010, 04:29:07 PM »
The only time I had problem with curly toes was when the temp was too low, and they hatched a day or two late.
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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2010, 05:03:47 PM »
Jane308; great post.  Years ago I ran across a SEARS 600 egg incubator at a yard sale.  It was like new and so cheap I couldn't pass it up.  I used it with great success for a few years hatchin Pheasants, chickens, and Blue Geese.  Then one day I visited a man who had been raising quail.  He had two of those 600 eggers and more quail than you could shake a stick at.   He had flight pens, for people who wanted live quail, and a process center that dressed and packaged fresh quail for the dinner table.   When I told him I had one of those Sears 600 egg incubators like his, he wouldn't let me go until I sold him mine.  I think he said that Sears ended production of those big incubators and he was wanting to expand his business. 
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Here come the Quail!
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2010, 03:19:09 PM »
They started pipping all yesterday and last night, started cheeping this afternoon, now they are starting to zip.

My first one: Bob white



Second one: Tennessee Red Quail
(was quite surprised, didn't look at pics on internet, wanted to be surprised... All black. Cool!



Will keep you all posted on their growth and anything interesting. Already noticing that their peeps are totally different then regular chicken cheeps.
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2010, 03:48:36 PM »
What are you going to do with them when they get big?
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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2010, 04:13:17 PM »
Gonna keep some breeders, sell a few possibly, and probably put a few in the freezer.
Mostly the hatching eggs from the breeder pairs. Alot of guys around the area looking for birds to train their dogs with, nearest is 80 miles north or east.

They are making a LOUD dog calling whistling sound. It's really awesome.
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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2010, 06:45:59 PM »

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Congrats !  One thing I remember about the breeder set-up was the small curtains that hung on the front side of the cages to keep the birds calm.  As long as they can't see you they think they are hid.   Hope you are successful with them.
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Update on quail
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2010, 04:34:13 PM »


All doing good, had a few of the smaller ones not thrive so good and died, but only 2. So not bad.

They are outside in the big brooder now.
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2010, 05:23:25 AM »
Interesting story and pics.  Keep it up.  Thanks.

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« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2010, 02:31:40 PM »
nice story. brings back memories of hatching ducks and chicks with the kids
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