Dearborn Michigan Muslim Capital of North America!

[saddlebum]

I thought the North American Muslim capital was at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington, D.C.

(Sorry, I couldn't help myself)   

[powderman]

I thought the North American Muslim capital was at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington, D.C.

(Sorry, I couldn't help myself)   

It is NOW. Osama said we were a muslim nation. POWDERMAN. 

[freetrapper]

Hi Scibaer, thank you for the reply and setting that straight.

[blind ear]

Sounds like 9-11 was the day citizens should have taken the problem into thier own hands in their own neighborhoods. Even with another successful large scale terrorist strike the US citizens probably will not act. We have been conditioned to accept that the government and proper authorities will take care of it. Plus there are the penalties of the hate crime laws as a reenforcer.

I am not much on typeing so bear with me. Two police officers pulled up the street in Dearborn and seen the muzzes danceing in the street, cheering when the towers went down. It was hard to turn away and not do something they said. I will not say what they told me  they wanted to do, but you can imange. A bunch came up to northern Mich last winter to a achun (sp) and bought all the guns and ammo they could. April this year there was a gun show in Birch Run, Mich. Agun they bought alot of guns and ammo. What are they stock pileing for??  freetrapper

Would we, will we, ever take a situation such as that into our own hands? Will anything push us to that point before we are swallowed? I don't know. Things would have to get very severe such as the EOTWAWKI scenario and by that time it may be too late. SCAREY ! eddie

[SM Bob]

For years it has been known as Dearbornistan. From what I've seen every time there are a bunch
of innocent people killed and wounded in some terrorist act by their buddies around the world there
is nothing but silence coming from that place. For a group that is supposedly so "Americanized" I find
it disturbing that we don't see or hear much sympathy for the victims and their families or outrage
against for the cowardly perpetrators.

                                                       Robert

[Dee]

A point that cannot be ignored Robert. Where is their anger, when OTHER AMERICANS are killed. Not soldiers, but civilians. They hit the untrained, unsuspecting, NON WARRIOR, and celebrate victory. An intimidating move, not a military move. Eventually racial profiling may come back into vogue by the civilian thru necessity, while the government ignores it. But will it be too late?

[Squib]

do any of you think of yourselves as evil when you read about american troops (occupying foreign nations) lighting up "ragheads" in the middle east?  the arab immigrants probably don't think of themselves as evil when they applaud NWO targets getting hit.  in either scenario there is a loss of civilian life but the rationalization ("it's okay because..." sentiment) is that they supported it and deserved it.  maybe those dearborn guys just hate the: international-banking, zionist, imperial, military/industrial, nwo, citizens of the world, anti-gun, anti-religion, anti-personal property and rights institutions SO MUCH that they rationalized the deaths of the civilians in the 9/11 incident?  before you call that evil, think about how quick most people on here fill the posts with rants about dead ragheads (the "they're all bad and deserve to die" school of thought that dominates here).  you can hate muslims if you want but realize that our military and government are very much allied with the NWO.

I despise white liberals a lot more than I hate muslims.  that's just my outlook though.

[powderman]

do any of you think of yourselves as evil when you read about american troops (occupying foreign nations) lighting up "ragheads" in the middle east? 

NOPE. I aplaud them. Don't know anything about the nwo. The silence of the GOOD muslims is deafening when their brothers slaughter innocents. I believe they celebrate it, but more quietly. Support em if ya want squib.  POWDERMAN. 

[Squib]

I do my best to not support NWO or radical religion

I dislike lots of "christian" religious denominations, dislike islam and dislike judaism, so I look at the issue as an outsider I think.  It's not personal to me.  I don't speak to god, my face doesn't shine with divine revelation, I don't know the truth--- as GOD speaks it, I only know what I've read and been told.  That's pertaining to the bible.  As for the quran I don't know much at all because I can't read arabic and haven't ever went into a mosque.  I try to discern the truth and live like a decent person- beyond that I don't know for sure the specifics of absolute values in righteousness.  I do however understand the thoughts and actions of men.  It's an us vs. them thing, but us is complicated.  america isn't perfect.  america is fighting an internal battle for national sovereignty as well and not all action by our military is just or for our own good.

if someone busted into your house or was acting as an official of martial law in your neighborhood, would you just take it or fight back (foreign or domestic is irrelevant to this question)?  factor that, differences of perception and viewpoint, and "two wrongs don't make a right" and you see the perpetual conflict.

those people in michigan, if they are so wrong and twisted, then why were american troops overseas and not in america cleaning house?  was bush oblivious to their presence?  was the michigan governor?  maybe those immigrants hated the banking elite for the same reasons white conservatives do?... only it was enough to turn a blind eye to the civilian death.  cold and atrocious yes.  jihadist sentiment no. 

[Gaz-52]

    Well said Squib !

[beerbelly]

You sound a lot more like them liberals than you do a former Marine. I don't doubt you are the former, I doubt seriously you were ever the latter. More like a want to be.
                         Beerbelly

[powderman]

squib. Theres no such critter as an American muslim, you don't seem to know the difference. We are in a war, like it or not. Big difference between a home invasion and searching out known murderers. POWDERMAN. 

[Dee]

If Squib is being truthful as to his military experience, and I actually have no reason to doubt him, I believe he has more of a grasp on WAR than most of us, as he has actually been in one. I will not denigrate his service as beerbelly has, but instead urge him to consider the source. It is his live and let live that I see as cloudy in some ways, but at the same time, I will acknowledge that until we actively started MEDDLING in middle eastern affairs we were free to travel most anywhere over there. It is when we started IMPOSING our ideology on the Muslim we began to have trouble with them.
Saying that, I am, and cannot ever be sure, given the circumstances already transpired, be sure whether we would or would not have ever had trouble with them. So in that light, I see his point, and he has earned the right to feel the way he feels. Just because one or more of us feels he is wrong doesn't necessarily mean the majority is right. The majority in Germany followed Hitler, and we know how that went.
My concern for Squib is more along the lines of spiritual faith, and I know he will not appreciate this remark, but that is where my concern is. My idea of the Muslim is that it is a dangerous religion given their doctrine, and those in the States need to be watched. Those in the middle east need to be warned of dire consequences, should they mess with us, and then perhaps left alone to shoot each other, which they most certainly will if left alone.

[Scibaer]

well, they are here and in droves. they just recently bought two gas stations in town here , closed one down and bought out the local golf course and driving range.. cold war, sympathetic president, americanized arabs or what have you ...
the Muslim  religion is something we dont need in this country

[powderman]

YEP. Had a muzzie open a BP station here a couple years ago, wore his muzzie attire with a rag on his head and finally figgered out that it didn't fly around here. He started wearing real clothes and a baseball cap, never learned to use soap and water though, whew. He's  closed now. POWDERMAN. 

[saddlebum]

HEADLINE;  "Sharia Comes to Michigan"   (Dearborn)

http://www.thefoxnation.com/culture/2010/06/23/sharia-comes-michigan

Christians arrested for handing out the Gospel of John on a public street in Dearborn.

WATCH!! Great video.

[Dee]

I don't see sharia law here. I see selective law enforcement violating their 1st Amendment rights. I also didn't see a single Arab police officer, I saw Anglos violating their rights, without any legal authority. I would have allowed them to arrest me, and filed suit, if I had thought it important enough to pass out the handouts.
I also noticed that they only handed these "Christian booklets" to Muslims and ignored other passersby. Although I don't care for, nor trust the Muslim, or his religion, I see this as nothing more than a "STUNT", and it's Christian scencirity, "a mile wide, and an inch deep". They were "there to only confront Muslims", not lead anyone to Christ.

[powderman]

They were "there to only confront Muslims", not lead anyone to Christ.


DEE. I think it was much more than that. I believe they were demonstrating the total intolerance of anything but islam by the muslims. They did that. POWDERMAN. 

[Dee]

All I saw involved were Dearborn police. The Muslim women took the literature and kept walking.

[powderman]

Moslems are one of the two that don't have anything against Christ and Mother Mary, but hold in highest regard, and consider Christ the messiah.


tm. In other posts you've said that the Godless ones only see Jesus as a prophet, now you say he's the Messiah? Get yer story straight. I can see that the Godless ones really belive in Jesus, since their cult does everything it can to kill everything he built and taught. 
DEE. I saw nothing, only read the story, can't do videos. POWDERMAN.