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No leupolds
« on: June 16, 2010, 08:39:46 AM »
well i got a leupold VX-II scope in 2-7x  and i put the thing on my airgun and try to zero at 15 yards. Guess what? the scope does not have the windage to zero on my airgun. I got the leupold becuase i hear they were the best scopes to get, well to me i don't see the money in getting one and when i get a real gun i not going buy any leupolds scopes.  My simmons hunter 3-9x40mm has done the job i have asked and has better things on it then the leupold.
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Re: No leupolds
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2010, 10:48:12 AM »
If you run out of windeage with any scope you have a mount problem, not a scope problem.  That is, of course, given an air rifle with a properly installed barrel that is reasobly concentric to the action.  I suggest a hard look at the mount instalation before criticising the scope.

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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2010, 08:04:39 AM »
If you run out of windeage with any scope you have a mount problem, not a scope problem.  That is, of course, given an air rifle with a properly installed barrel that is reasobly concentric to the action.  I suggest a hard look at the mount instalation before criticising the scope.

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I use the 5$ walmart 22/airgun mounts(i think they were the BSA 1" Rings for 3/8" dovetail rails). My simmons pro hunter was on the same gun with same rings and no problems. still makeing   windage and elevation adjustment i can do with my hands were with the   leupold i need a coin or tool.  Can haveing the rubber little rope that on the Dust Caps under the scope when in the rings cause this problem?
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Re: No leupolds
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2010, 05:34:23 AM »
+1 with Larry G. on this mount vs adjustment range. It happens on cartridge rifles too, BTW. Get a centering mount, adj. the scope to center windage (there is a process other than counting clicks, too) and get your 'rough windage from the mount, then fine tune with the scope.
If the scope has no parralax problem for the closer air rifle ranges, or is adjustable for such, is a much bigger issue. If you cant adjust that out you will NOT be able to get a consistent group, and people often blame the rifle.
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Re: No leupolds
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2010, 05:52:21 AM »
well i got a leupold VX-II scope in 2-7x  and i put the thing on my airgun and try to zero at 15 yards. Guess what? the scope does not have the windage to zero on my airgun. I got the leupold becuase i hear they were the best scopes to get, well to me i don't see the money in getting one and when i get a real gun i not going buy any leupolds scopes.  My simmons hunter 3-9x40mm has done the job i have asked and has better things on it then the leupold.

Oops you did buy the best in optics, but not the correct scope.  I agree your scope mounting system is the main problem here or you already ruined the VX-II 2-7 being on the airgun which it isn’t designed.

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/air-rifle-scopes/

Leupold's are my only choice for rifle scopes, quality, warranty and customer service is untouchable.

I can’t comment on the Simmons, you couldn’t run fast enough to give me one for free.

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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2010, 06:39:35 AM »
Two things.
1) the Leupold was not designed for the Air gun stress.  Recoil is in reverse.
The Air rifle may destroy that neat little scope.
2) go get an Air gun scope.
I think I paid way too much for mine.  It is a Bushnell 3-9X32 Air rifle scope 
it is clear and bright.  I think it was $65.oo
Save the 2-7 Leupold for a center fire or rimfire rifle.


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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2010, 07:59:46 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2010, 07:15:20 AM »
I am selling that scope today and if i can't get a my money back for it i will keep it. I use pump up and CO2 airguns so i can use reg. scopes.  spring piston guns/ Gas Spring are the ones that need Air gun scopes. Pneumatic,Multi-Stroke pneumatic air guns,Pre-charged pneumatic (PCP) some of them  and CO2 don't have that recoil so you can use any scope.

Even with a Air gun scope spring piston guns eat scopes or so i have been told.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2010, 07:27:26 AM »
most good rifle scopes are set for 100 yrds   and a pellet gun scope is set for 50 yrds  ( i think they call it the paralax)  i did try to use a rim fire scope on my winchester 1000 pellet gun and trashed it. knocked the glass loose in it. i bought a bsa air rifle scope for $70 and now it shoots good  just needed a pellet gun scope.
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2010, 11:19:23 AM »
sold it for 60$. I did not like it and it goes to show me that a name is not worth the cost. my simmons 8-point prohunter(3-9x40mm) has rode on my daisy 880,766,and now is on my 760. easy to use, can make windage and elevation adjustment  with fingers and i love this scope.
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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2010, 02:24:18 PM »
I would have sent you a nice new bushnell Air Rifle scope and $20 in Cash for mounts in trade for the Leupold.
Any more deals like that let me know.  i can always find a 22 Rifle to stick it under.

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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2010, 06:24:21 PM »
sold it for 60$. I did not like it and it goes to show me that a name is not worth the cost. my simmons 8-point prohunter(3-9x40mm) has rode on my daisy 880,766,and now is on my 760. easy to use, can make windage and elevation adjustment  with fingers and i love this scope.

I am glad to hear another fellow Leupold owner knows how to bargain.  I am proud to say, I truly commend that person for snagging it for $60.  Congrats to whomever.

Have fun with your simmons. ;D

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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2010, 06:33:56 AM »
i paid 49 for it and i got 60.   I sold it to deer hunter gun store here in clearwater ,FL and i sold my bushnell phantom for 15$(paid 2$ for it).

what kind of bushnell Air Rifle scope was it? maybe next time i should post stuff for sale on here.
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Re: No leupolds
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2010, 07:10:35 AM »
Well.......ya
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2010, 11:59:40 AM »
i paid 49 for it and i got 60.   I sold it to deer hunter gun store here in clearwater ,FL and i sold my bushnell phantom for 15$(paid 2$ for it).

what kind of bushnell Air Rifle scope was it? maybe next time i should post stuff for sale on here.

That's hilarious, you paid $49 for a Leupold VX-II 2x7 scope and sold it for $60?

My gut hurts.

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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2010, 01:17:12 PM »
 
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well i got a leupold VX-II scope in 2-7x  and i put the thing on my airgun and try to zero at 15 yards. Guess what? the scope does not have the windage to zero on my airgun
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i paid 49 for it and i got 60

Now it becomes clear why the scope had no windage adjustment. It was busted to begin with, and thats why the original owner sold a $300 scope for $50.   



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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2010, 01:52:47 PM »

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well i got a leupold VX-II scope in 2-7x  and i put the thing on my airgun and try to zero at 15 yards. Guess what? the scope does not have the windage to zero on my airgun
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i paid 49 for it and i got 60

Now it becomes clear why the scope had no windage adjustment. It was busted to begin with, and thats why the original owner sold a $300 scope for $50.   

Absolutely, Hopefully the guy that stole it for $60 has sense enough to send it to Leupold for inspection and any needed repair all free of course, unless there is obvious user negligence damage.

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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2010, 03:57:49 AM »

Oops you did buy the best in optics, but not the correct scope.  I agree your scope mounting system is the main problem here or you already ruined the VX-II 2-7 being on the airgun which it isn’t designed.
yooper77

 All Leupold scopes are rated for airgun use (as far as durability and warantee coverage is concerned), including the OP's...

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/ultralight-riflescopes/
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2010, 04:27:40 AM »

Oops you did buy the best in optics, but not the correct scope.  I agree your scope mounting system is the main problem here or you already ruined the VX-II 2-7 being on the airgun which it isn’t designed.
yooper77

 All Leupold scopes are rated for airgun use (as far as durability and warantee coverage is concerned), including the OP's...

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/ultralight-riflescopes/

Where does it say the VX-II 2-7x28mm Ultralight is rated for air rifles?

Under the overview Leupold says:
“The VX-II 3-9x33mm Ultralight EFR also has extreme close-focus capability, making it a perfect match for your air rifle, walking varminter, or rimfire rifle”.

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/air-rifle-scopes/

I don’t see where all (each and every) Leupold scopes are rated for air rifle use?

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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2010, 10:48:42 AM »
ALL Leupold scopes are rated for airgun use and are backed by the lifetime warranty. The difference between the airgun specific  scopes like the EFR and the others is the minimum focusing distance and parallax adjustments are set for closer ranges that are appropriate for airgun use. Otherwise the internals are made the same. Just because it doesn't say so somewhere doesn't mean its not rated. Many airgun shooters have used a wide vaiety of Leupolds on just about every air rifle made for years. There is no reason not to use one. Just ask them. Thats the answer they have been providing in the past.



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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2010, 07:03:11 AM »

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well i got a leupold VX-II scope in 2-7x  and i put the thing on my airgun and try to zero at 15 yards. Guess what? the scope does not have the windage to zero on my airgun
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i paid 49 for it and i got 60

Now it becomes clear why the scope had no windage adjustment. It was busted to begin with, and thats why the original owner sold a $300 scope for $50.   

I got it at the salvation army in alabama(near fairfield). There was a lot of very new stuff there like the upland vest i got that still had the basspro tag on it and the new in box hunting knife.  there was nothing with the scope i just did not like it(i tryed again without the scope covers and it zeroed).  Sure i was a nice scope but i liked  simmons over it and i wanted someing higher then a 2-7x.  Also as i said before Pneumatic,Multi-Stroke pneumatic air guns, and CO2 don't have that recoil so you can use any scope.  only spring piston guns do that.  so if you have a pump up gun like the daisy 880 or a corsman 760 use what ever scope you like.  also there 2 class of airgun scope the cheap one that come with some airguns(daisy 880 ) and the one for spring piston gun.
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2010, 05:05:13 AM »
I called Leupold and confirmed all their scopes can be used on air rifles.  Obviously the only thing is selecting a scope with correct parallax range.  The ones under the air rifle and rim fire have a parallax adjusted for 60 yards.  All others have a parallax adjusted for 150 yards, but for $15 Leupold will change it for you.

I am truly not surprised that Leupold’s scopes are this great; they are truly the best in optics globally.

I am certain that the scope the OP had was probably damaged already or more than likely his mounting system is the true culprit.

Additionally it’s hard to imagine that the Salvation Army would sell an awesome scope for so little, but I had no way of confirming the truth.  Funny thing is any auction site would have risen from $150 to a little over $200 for this scope if it shown no visible damage.

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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2010, 06:14:08 AM »
Buys a used Leupold for $49 from the Salvation Army, puts it in a $5 mount on an unspecified air rifle (Daisy?) and runs out of adjustment and then complains about the Leupold?  Oh well........  Now I have nothing against inexpensive rifles or scopes but one does get what one pays for.  If you put $400 racing radials on a Chevette and the front end wouldn't align would you blame it on the tires?  Conversely if you put $50 retreads on a Corvette would you expect to race at 120 mph?

BTW; I have (actually had) 3 Simmons air rifle scopes.  The target elevation knob was broken off on one (4x12 w/AO). Sent it to Florida for repair only to have it returned saying to sent to Bushnell in Kansas.  Sent scope there for another $12 shipping plus required $10.  They can't repair it so they offer a Banner scope for additional $75 or 30-40% off another Bushnell/Tasco scope.  Still pondering what to do and how much $s additional to spend.  Never had that problem with any Leupold scope.  If they needed fixing it was done, mostly at no charge.  Of the 3 Simmons air rifle scopes only one was still on an air rifle, a 4X on an R9 .20 cal.  The 4x12 and a 6x18 were both tried on my RWS M54 .22 cal.  Both failed to hold zero under the vibration f the "recoiless system".  The 6x18 is now on my Savage M40 .22 Hornet where it gives excellent service.  The 4x12 was on a Remington M504 .22LR and was doing fine untill the wife moved it where it could get broke.  Guess what has been on the RWS M54 giving excellent service without losing zero for several years....yup, a Leupold......6x20EFR to be exact!

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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2010, 09:00:59 AM »
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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2010, 12:53:48 PM »
Did they also sell guns at the Fairfield Salvation Army?
That's about 3-4 miles from where they arrested the drug dealer who had my stolen 10/22.
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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2010, 11:30:14 AM »
Look, the scope was in a new box for a Nikon Monarch 3-12x Scope. The box was band new and there were the a pair of used Weaver 1" Matte Rings in there.  I got the scope becuase of a new not so much that i wanted it. The lsst owner from what it looks like got a new scope and gave the old one away.

I got the problem with the rings fix and yes the scope shot well and it was a good scope. But i sold it cause it's only a 2-7x, i needed a tool or coin to make  windage and elevation adjustment, i would have to buy new scope covers and ringes and to me it was no better then what i had.  I like my Simmons  and i only payed 19$ new at walmart for it.  Should i have kept it yeah maybe but i had no more room in my hard  Pistol Case  for it (that is were i keep scope that are not in use) there was also a used Tasco Target/Varmint(26$ i was only going to get this one only) there at the Salvation Army and i got it. I am keep it cuase it has what i want.

they don't really look like a gun place (there was gun free zone signs every) and maybe that why it was such a low price.  I also got some airgun ammo up there at the walmart and they keep all airgun ammo, knifes, real ammo and airsoft gun lock up in the case. 

So let me be about that scope, ok please.  Maybe i was to fast to sell it ok, i should have asked for more for it ok,  The scope was good and had no problems but for right now i did not see a reason to keep it beside it a Leupold. 

When i do get a real gun i will get what my wallet can pay for. I like Simmons  but i more then likly going for the Bushnell or a Cabela's Alaskan Guide  Premium 4-12 cuase for the cost i like those 2 scopes.
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« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2010, 11:37:19 AM »
I once saw a Leupold 3-9 that was for 150$ on sale at walmart 3 years ago and i did not have the cash for it.  So, sometime you can find a good deal, just have the money for it.
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« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2010, 11:46:54 AM »
I think we were all Jealous about you getting a great deal on a scope.
As I said if you find another one.  Send me a PM.  i will scrape something together you will want in trade.
I really think if you fell into an OUT HOUSE you would pop up with a couple gold watches and a wallet stuffed with cash.
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« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2010, 12:16:28 PM »
I think we were all Jealous about you getting a great deal on a scope.
As I said if you find another one.  Send me a PM.  i will scrape something together you will want in trade.
I really think if you fell into an OUT HOUSE you would pop up with a couple gold watches and a wallet stuffed with cash.
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If i find another one i keeping it for myself or at least do more research to find out how much i should sell it for. I did not think i could get 60$ for it becuase things that should sell well have not. Just look at my bushnell phantom scope. I got it for 5$ and sold it for 15$ and that scope was clean and had everything beside a box  and mounts with it or my daisy 1200 i got with ammo and 6 co2 for 8$ or my CRKT M16z knife i got for 5$ or my coldsteel  R1 Military Classic  i got for 30$ or my penn 66 and 309 i got for 10$. 

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« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2010, 12:24:48 PM »
And other times you sell stuff to an eager young guy to use it for fishing and hunting, cheap so they can go fishing and hunting.
I have done this with a couple of my friends and I get mad if they reailze they got agood deal on something and sell and make $ and still have nothing to use.